The Trade Thread II

[OrlandoDream]

Another Aaron gordon type player. Henni is drafting athletes and no basketball players. Josh Jackson cant shoot. Stop drafting athletes please. We need players with offensive tools

Josh Jackson would by far be Hennys most highly profile pick since his tenure here. I love AG/EP but Josh Jackson has a chance to be a better player then both. Its his two-way ability that makes Gms salivate. The guy is a Wiggins/Jimmy Butler mix. This team isnt going anywhere the next 2-3 seasons. We need to reset this rebuild, do it right, and keep Martins/Devos the F out of the way. Go the Twolves/76rs route. This and next years draft is to rack up on top picks. We arent going nowhere without a star player. Since they are not gonna come and sign here, we need to get it through the draft. Getting Josh Jackson would be a tremendous start.

My top 5 for our team are:
Jackson
Fultz
Ball
Isaac
Monk



Their individual skill set aside, I feel like Jacksons fire and competitiveness fuels his teammates while Fultz is just going through the motions.

Thatd what I've seen from Fultz too. It's also one of his biggest criticism. He just looks uninterested at time and other times he is on fire. Reminds me of harden too much. But yeah Jackson is always on the move. Kid looks like her had a great motor.

[npiper17]

I like Butler but I do question why Chicago isn't better. Or more specifically, why is he not able to make those around him better? The Bulls do have a pretty bad front office / player situation so that might have something to do with it.

[Max Power]

All these tweet links are blacked out...anyone paraphrase?


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They are? Wth? I can see them, lol

Any way according to Chad Evans the Raptors have made a strong push for Ibaka in the last few days, Wilson Chandler has been the subject of Magic Nuggets talk, magic prefer picks and young prospects, possible 3 team trade between Magic Raptors and unnamed team, magic not looking for point guards with the draft being a PG heavy draft though Hennigan is very high on Josh Jackson and has done a ton of research on him, Magic's interest in Terrence Ross isn't very high but he's not out of discussions, Magical nba says Magic have been pursuing Butler over a year now and it was confirmed at Hennigans luncheon

The links never work for me. Not sure why, but thank you for the info my friend.


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[Max Power]

I'd definitely love to see Josh Jackson and Jimmy Butler on this team. Hennigan could keep his job if he'd manage to keep Gordon and Vuc along with them. Not likely. I'm cool with trading Ibaka for the sake of improvement and getting rid of Fournier would make me the happiest Magic fan on earth.


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[IllMagic04]

The Ibaka to the Raptors trade makes to much sense not to happen. Are the Raptors really big on Ross? Ross, Sullinger and 1st rounder for Ibaka is a trade that neither side should say no to.

[nymets1]

I hope we don't do any trade with the Raptors, i don't like any of the players on the Raptors.

Could it be time now to go get Dejounte Murray from the Spurs?

The Spurs have assigned Dejounte Murray to the D-League.
Murray played relatively well in four starts when Tony Parker was sidelined two weeks ago, but Murray has not been a part of the rotation since. He has played only spot minutes and has failed to score a single point over the Spurs last four games. At this point, his value in re-draft leagues is only as an insurance policy in case Tony Parker or Patty Mills gets injured. Feb 3 - 12:53 PM
Source: Spurs PR on Twitter

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/2660/dejounte-murray

Should barely have to give up anything to get Dejounte Murray.

[Xatticus]

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Another Aaron gordon type player. Henni is drafting athletes and no basketball players. Josh Jackson cant shoot. Stop drafting athletes please. We need players with offensive tools

Josh Jackson isn't Steph Curry as a shooter but he isn't AG or Elf either.

Watch the games. His mechanics are fine and he shoots a good ball. An NBA shooting coach will have no problem helping help. We saw the results of that first hand with Wiggins the other night. Guys like AG and Elf had (have?) a LOOOONG way to go on their shooting. Jackson doesn't.

He is shooting 55% on free throws. You can't sugarcoat that. Anyone with talent is going to put up a TS% in college that would be credible by NBA standards, but the microscope gets magnified once they get to the NBA. Some players do improve significantly as shooters, but as of right now, his shooting is a major concern. People love Josh Jackson for the same reasons they loved Marcus Smart.

[rcklsscognition]

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One thing is certain: Orlando is trying to wheel and deal before the deadline. I recently asked a number of league sources, “Which NBA teams are most desperate to make a trade before the deadline?”

Every single source mentioned Orlando.

Teams are certainly calling Hennigan and his staff to see who is available. When a team is struggling this badly and has this many proven veterans (Vucevic, Ibaka, Payton, Evan Fournier, Jeff Green and DJ Augustin among others), rival executives circle like vultures in hopes of prying them away.

[nashrambler13]

I'd like Bledsoe a lot, but that draft pick was the back breaker. Would Vucevic, Hezonja and our 2019 LAL 1st do it for you?

Feels like a lot to give up, but I like both Bledsoe and Len. There might be a framework for a deal here. I think our team would be more willing to take back a big contract to clear instead of part with the pick this year. Maybe a future first round pick other than 2017 may work.

Personally, my only goal in trading Bledsoe is trading for a top 7 pick. Honestly, I would basically do Bledsoe straight up for a top 7 pick, but I imagine that is not what most of the Magic fanbase would want. That (either "just the first rounder" or the deal you (both) proposed) is not terrible value for Bled in a vacuum though-- I just wouldn't do it because, at a certain point, you can't keep stockpiling picks that far in the future (as we already have two unprotected MIA picks.). I'm sure the Suns front office feels the same way, especially with Piece of Trash Robert Sarver as the owner.

I could definitely see the potential for our teams, although one fanbase will probably be pretty upset about the direction the team takes things.

I think most of us are on board with the full on tank, but our front office is still trying to organize a bucket brigade.

As for Hezonja, I will let you know as soon as I see him on the court.

I guess we're on the same page, front office wise!

And dang, I'm sorry to hear that he has (seemingly) fallen so far out of favor.

[magicfan4life88]

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One thing is certain: Orlando is trying to wheel and deal before the deadline. I recently asked a number of league sources, “Which NBA teams are most desperate to make a trade before the deadline?”

Every single source mentioned Orlando.

Teams are certainly calling Hennigan and his staff to see who is available. When a team is struggling this badly and has this many proven veterans (Vucevic, Ibaka, Payton, Evan Fournier, Jeff Green and DJ Augustin among others), rival executives circle like vultures in hopes of prying them away.

D*mn, this could be a good thing but could be a bad thing, we just need to hope there is a bidding war

[rcklsscognition]

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[pepe1991]

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Trade all young players and build around Green and Watson, Vogels favorites

[tiderulz]

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One thing is certain: Orlando is trying to wheel and deal before the deadline. I recently asked a number of league sources, “Which NBA teams are most desperate to make a trade before the deadline?”

Every single source mentioned Orlando.

Teams are certainly calling Hennigan and his staff to see who is available. When a team is struggling this badly and has this many proven veterans (Vucevic, Ibaka, Payton, Evan Fournier, Jeff Green and DJ Augustin among others), rival executives circle like vultures in hopes of prying them away.

please, pry DJ and Green away

[Blue_and_Whte]

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One thing is certain: Orlando is trying to wheel and deal before the deadline. I recently asked a number of league sources, “Which NBA teams are most desperate to make a trade before the deadline?”

Every single source mentioned Orlando.

Teams are certainly calling Hennigan and his staff to see who is available. When a team is struggling this badly and has this many proven veterans (Vucevic, Ibaka, Payton, Evan Fournier, Jeff Green and DJ Augustin among others), rival executives circle like vultures in hopes of prying them away.

please, pry DJ and Green away

I was gonna say. Shouldn't take too much to "pry" those two away. It may not be the case but I feel like both guys are traded every year around the same time.

[Blue_and_Whte]

Another Aaron gordon type player. Henni is drafting athletes and no basketball players. Josh Jackson cant shoot. Stop drafting athletes please. We need players with offensive tools

Josh Jackson isn't Steph Curry as a shooter but he isn't AG or Elf either.

Watch the games. His mechanics are fine and he shoots a good ball. An NBA shooting coach will have no problem helping help. We saw the results of that first hand with Wiggins the other night. Guys like AG and Elf had (have?) a LOOOONG way to go on their shooting. Jackson doesn't.

There is a reason he shots below 60% from the FT line... how are we going to close out games with him and Payton as our guards?

Meh.. If AG can improve his FT shooting then so can Jackson. I don't think any GM would pass on him for a less player just because he's currently an iffy FT shooter.

[Furinkazan]

Another Aaron gordon type player. Henni is drafting athletes and no basketball players. Josh Jackson cant shoot. Stop drafting athletes please. We need players with offensive tools

Josh Jackson isn't Steph Curry as a shooter but he isn't AG or Elf either.

Watch the games. His mechanics are fine and he shoots a good ball. An NBA shooting coach will have no problem helping help. We saw the results of that first hand with Wiggins the other night. Guys like AG and Elf had (have?) a LOOOONG way to go on their shooting. Jackson doesn't.

There is a reason he shots below 60% from the FT line... how are we going to close out games with him and Payton as our guards?

Some people will never learn.Repeat the same drafting mistakes over and over.Ive heard past 3 years that AG and Payton can learn how to shoot and and AG form is good and he will improve cuz form is good so no reason not to improve......yes he is...they both are... but they will come to PASSABLE level in 5 years thats how much they improve each season... I want a guy who can shot and score...not one who maybe will learn we ve been there done that.

[magicfan4life88]

This thing died down, no news?

[Magic_Johnny12]

This thing died down, no news?

Won't hear much that's actually credible until after all star break.

[OrlandoMagic]

[OrlandoDream]

I like Butler but I do question why Chicago isn't better. Or more specifically, why is he not able to make those around him better? The Bulls do have a pretty bad front office / player situation so that might have something to do with it.

Terrance Ross is awful. We need Powell, lardburger and the most favorable first for Ibaka and filler. Add in a second if we need to. I just want Powell in this team. Kid is a stud