Around the NBA: 2018/2019 edition

[MagicFan101]

That Trae Young guy sucks... lol

24 and 15... we couldn't use real basketball players here.

We totally should have grabbed him at 6.

Oh, wait ...

No we totally shoulda done whatever it took to move to 4. That trade leaked the day before the draft. If you could go back in time right now would you take Parsons contract to move to 4? I would have. And I said I would the second the trade leaked.

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How do you know we didn’t?

Just because it didn’t happen doesn’t mean we didn’t try. Offloading Parsons was one thing we know Memphis wanted but we don’t know what else they demanded.

[IllMagic04]

We totally should have grabbed him at 6.

Oh, wait ...

No we totally shoulda done whatever it took to move to 4. That trade leaked the day before the draft. If you could go back in time right now would you take Parsons contract to move to 4? I would have. And I said I would the second the trade leaked.

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How do you know we didn’t?

Just because it didn’t happen doesn’t mean we didn’t try. Offloading Parsons was one thing we know Memphis wanted but we don’t know what else they demanded.

We dont know. But I can look at a couple of things we do know and draw a conclustion.

1. Trae Young doesnt have long arms
2. The FO has done nothing so far in terms of taking a chance. All safe moves.
3. No rumor leaked about us contacting Memphis even though it leaking woulda helped the situation
4. Looking at who we have drafted Trae didnt fit the mold. And certainly didnt fit the mold of someone to trade up for
5. If we know they wanted Parsons gone then heathly bodies is what they wanted. Evan and simmons for the corpse of Parsons is a steal for them. + They still probally get JJJ. But you have to be willing to gamble and have the stigma of losing the trade untill Young hits his peak
6 Bamba has long arms

Put all that together and the conclustion I drew is when we saw the trade leak our FO exploded knowing the longest wingspan dropped to them.

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[PrimeThyme]

Man, one of my biggest misses in the 2017 draft was Josh Jackson. I really thought he would translate much better and at the very least be a high-level defender like Isaac, but he isn't even an NBA player at this point. People kill Isaac for his offense but Josh Jackson literally has a 2.1 PER (was a -.02 earlier this year) and really can't defend anybody (72 ortg, 115 drtg). The stats tell a really bad story but if you actually watch him play they tell an even worse one. Guys just go at him and score at will on defense and he plays wild and out of control on offense.

He needs to turn it around fast because with this being a wing heavy draft and PHX most likely having a high pick I could see them drafting his replacement and him getting phased out fast.

[pepe1991]

Man, one of my biggest misses in the 2017 draft was Josh Jackson. I really thought he would translate much better and at the very least be a high-level defender like Isaac, but he isn't even an NBA player at this point. People kill Isaac for his offense but Josh Jackson literally has a 2.1 PER (was a -.02 earlier this year) and really can't defend anybody (72 ortg, 115 drtg). The stats tell a really bad story but if you actually watch him play they tell an even worse one. Guys just go at him and score at will on defense and he plays wild and out of control on offense.

He needs to turn it around fast because with this being a wing heavy draft and PHX most likely having a high pick I could see them drafting his replacement and him getting phased out fast.

Suns are easly the worst runned team in NBA.

They are knees deep in rebuild yet they decided to make some wtf moves .
Len out for nothing, Payton as bad he was for them - out for nothing, they have no starting PG; yet they waste money on Ariza who at this point is semi retired, Anderson who is old and does not help them win now, they gave up on Chriss, now they gave up on Bender ( both bearly 20 years old ), drafted Mikal to bearly use him, have former 4# overall pick in Jackson who played well last year, yet benched him once again. Out of nowhere they decided to resign TJ Warren who is poor man Michael Beasley ( no defense, long 2s, player lost in modern nba between two forward positions, without skill to play any of them well ).

Early outlook on Kokoškov does not look great, they are top 3 worst offense and defense in nba.Again.
They just fired GM and overall they are school books example how to not hold player accoutnable.

Devin booker by years:
rookie year :14 points -112 def rating
second year: 22 ppg - 115 def rating
thrid- - 25 ppg - 116 def rating
fourth - 26 ppg - 117 def rating

congratulation, your allegedly key peace literally plays less and less defense by years to expense of his PPGs that show zero reflections in Ws. Matter of fact you won more games 4 years ago than last year.

Whole Bender/Chris fiasco to play Ryan Anderson is probably best reflection of knee jerk reaction team that simply has no idea what they are doing.

[basketballRob]

No we totally shoulda done whatever it took to move to 4. That trade leaked the day before the draft. If you could go back in time right now would you take Parsons contract to move to 4? I would have. And I said I would the second the trade leaked.

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How do you know we didn’t?

Just because it didn’t happen doesn’t mean we didn’t try. Offloading Parsons was one thing we know Memphis wanted but we don’t know what else they demanded.

We dont know. But I can look at a couple of things we do know and draw a conclustion.

1. Trae Young doesnt have long arms
2. The FO has done nothing so far in terms of taking a chance. All safe moves.
3. No rumor leaked about us contacting Memphis even though it leaking woulda helped the situation
4. Looking at who we have drafted Trae didnt fit the mold. And certainly didnt fit the mold of someone to trade up for
5. If we know they wanted Parsons gone then heathly bodies is what they wanted. Evan and simmons for the corpse of Parsons is a steal for them. + They still probally get JJJ. But you have to be willing to gamble and have the stigma of losing the trade untill Young hits his peak
6 Bamba has long arms

Put all that together and the conclustion I drew is when we saw the trade leak our FO exploded knowing the longest wingspan dropped to them.

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Bamba looks like a future star, if he was in LA, Boston, or NY they'd already be building statues. One stat I like is the offensive and defensive ratings, Young is -9 and Bamba is +6.

[MagicFan4Lyfe]

How do you know we didn’t?

Just because it didn’t happen doesn’t mean we didn’t try. Offloading Parsons was one thing we know Memphis wanted but we don’t know what else they demanded.

We dont know. But I can look at a couple of things we do know and draw a conclustion.

1. Trae Young doesnt have long arms
2. The FO has done nothing so far in terms of taking a chance. All safe moves.
3. No rumor leaked about us contacting Memphis even though it leaking woulda helped the situation
4. Looking at who we have drafted Trae didnt fit the mold. And certainly didnt fit the mold of someone to trade up for
5. If we know they wanted Parsons gone then heathly bodies is what they wanted. Evan and simmons for the corpse of Parsons is a steal for them. + They still probally get JJJ. But you have to be willing to gamble and have the stigma of losing the trade untill Young hits his peak
6 Bamba has long arms

Put all that together and the conclustion I drew is when we saw the trade leak our FO exploded knowing the longest wingspan dropped to them.

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Bamba looks like a future star, if he was in LA, Boston, or NY they'd already be building statues. One stat I like is the offensive and defensive ratings, Young is -9 and Bamba is +6.

The double double he put up last night was very impressive. He is starting to have a big impact on the game and the stronger he gets, the more playing time he will get and more he can push out Vucevic and start our new era!

[PrimeThyme]

Man, one of my biggest misses in the 2017 draft was Josh Jackson. I really thought he would translate much better and at the very least be a high-level defender like Isaac, but he isn't even an NBA player at this point. People kill Isaac for his offense but Josh Jackson literally has a 2.1 PER (was a -.02 earlier this year) and really can't defend anybody (72 ortg, 115 drtg). The stats tell a really bad story but if you actually watch him play they tell an even worse one. Guys just go at him and score at will on defense and he plays wild and out of control on offense.

He needs to turn it around fast because with this being a wing heavy draft and PHX most likely having a high pick I could see them drafting his replacement and him getting phased out fast.

Suns are easly the worst runned team in NBA.

They are knees deep in rebuild yet they decided to make some wtf moves .
Len out for nothing, Payton as bad he was for them - out for nothing, they have no starting PG; yet they waste money on Ariza who at this point is semi retired, Anderson who is old and does not help them win now, they gave up on Chriss, now they gave up on Bender ( both bearly 20 years old ), drafted Mikal to bearly use him, have former 4# overall pick in Jackson who played well last year, yet benched him once again. Out of nowhere they decided to resign TJ Warren who is poor man Michael Beasley ( no defense, long 2s, player lost in modern nba between two forward positions, without skill to play any of them well ).

Early outlook on Kokoškov does not look great, they are top 3 worst offense and defense in nba.Again.
They just fired GM and overall they are school books example how to not hold player accoutnable.

Devin booker by years:
rookie year :14 points -112 def rating
second year: 22 ppg - 115 def rating
thrid- - 25 ppg - 116 def rating
fourth - 26 ppg - 117 def rating

congratulation, your allegedly key peace literally plays less and less defense by years to expense of his PPGs that show zero reflections in Ws. Matter of fact you won more games 4 years ago than last year.

Whole Bender/Chris fiasco to play Ryan Anderson is probably best reflection of knee jerk reaction team that simply has no idea what they are doing.

Agree with most all of this, except the Josh Jackson playing well last year part. He really didn't play well, by any stretch. Yes, he scored 13 ppg but he did it on bad efficiency and 12 fga per game. Not to mention that he was drafted to be a Kawai (that was his popular comp coming out of college) level defender and he has been an awful one by pretty much every stretch since he got into the league. He hasn't been able to defend, create for himself, shoot, or do anything else to justify playing time or being out there. Reminds me a lot of Mario in a lot of ways with better defensive instincts.

Yeah, they have made some bizarre moves. They moved up to get Bridges and he now is essentially replacing Josh Jackson in the rotation (along with Ariza and Warren lol). I'm not sure how they figured those two would coexist when they moved up to draft him. Neither have the size to play PF and JJ hasnt shot well enough to play SF. At this rate I really see JJ going the route that Chriss and Bender did in PHX and being another top 5 pick that busts there. Granted, not that we are much better by any means but they too have done a very poor job. The GM did get fired for a reason tho.

[WeAreVenom]

We dont know. But I can look at a couple of things we do know and draw a conclustion.

1. Trae Young doesnt have long arms
2. The FO has done nothing so far in terms of taking a chance. All safe moves.
3. No rumor leaked about us contacting Memphis even though it leaking woulda helped the situation
4. Looking at who we have drafted Trae didnt fit the mold. And certainly didnt fit the mold of someone to trade up for
5. If we know they wanted Parsons gone then heathly bodies is what they wanted. Evan and simmons for the corpse of Parsons is a steal for them. + They still probally get JJJ. But you have to be willing to gamble and have the stigma of losing the trade untill Young hits his peak
6 Bamba has long arms

Put all that together and the conclustion I drew is when we saw the trade leak our FO exploded knowing the longest wingspan dropped to them.

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Bamba looks like a future star, if he was in LA, Boston, or NY they'd already be building statues. One stat I like is the offensive and defensive ratings, Young is -9 and Bamba is +6.

The double double he put up last night was very impressive. He is starting to have a big impact on the game and the stronger he gets, the more playing time he will get and more he can push out Vucevic and start our new era!

I actually think Vuc will start until he is traded, which I think (hope) will be sooner rather than later....

[SOUL]

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Took Knicks only a few weeks after finally starting a rebuild to do what people have been begging for years here.. yeah the result might not be great but at least they don't have to wait 4 months of Jeff/Willie Green or Ben Gordon or Arron Afflalo before seeing their young dudes play together.

[PrimeThyme]

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Took Knicks only a few weeks after finally starting a rebuild to do what people have been begging for years here.. yeah the result might not be great but at least they don't have to wait 4 months of Jeff/Willie Green or Ben Gordon or Arron Afflalo before seeing their young dudes play together.

Holy tank. && to think that they are rolling out a lineup like that and people are still justifying BIG not even logging a single minute together says a lot. I don't expect our vets to be going anywhere anytime soon.

[pepe1991]

Man, one of my biggest misses in the 2017 draft was Josh Jackson. I really thought he would translate much better and at the very least be a high-level defender like Isaac, but he isn't even an NBA player at this point. People kill Isaac for his offense but Josh Jackson literally has a 2.1 PER (was a -.02 earlier this year) and really can't defend anybody (72 ortg, 115 drtg). The stats tell a really bad story but if you actually watch him play they tell an even worse one. Guys just go at him and score at will on defense and he plays wild and out of control on offense.

He needs to turn it around fast because with this being a wing heavy draft and PHX most likely having a high pick I could see them drafting his replacement and him getting phased out fast.

Suns are easly the worst runned team in NBA.

They are knees deep in rebuild yet they decided to make some wtf moves .
Len out for nothing, Payton as bad he was for them - out for nothing, they have no starting PG; yet they waste money on Ariza who at this point is semi retired, Anderson who is old and does not help them win now, they gave up on Chriss, now they gave up on Bender ( both bearly 20 years old ), drafted Mikal to bearly use him, have former 4# overall pick in Jackson who played well last year, yet benched him once again. Out of nowhere they decided to resign TJ Warren who is poor man Michael Beasley ( no defense, long 2s, player lost in modern nba between two forward positions, without skill to play any of them well ).

Early outlook on Kokoškov does not look great, they are top 3 worst offense and defense in nba.Again.
They just fired GM and overall they are school books example how to not hold player accoutnable.

Devin booker by years:
rookie year :14 points -112 def rating
second year: 22 ppg - 115 def rating
thrid- - 25 ppg - 116 def rating
fourth - 26 ppg - 117 def rating

congratulation, your allegedly key peace literally plays less and less defense by years to expense of his PPGs that show zero reflections in Ws. Matter of fact you won more games 4 years ago than last year.

Whole Bender/Chris fiasco to play Ryan Anderson is probably best reflection of knee jerk reaction team that simply has no idea what they are doing.

Agree with most all of this, except the Josh Jackson playing well last year part. He really didn't play well, by any stretch. Yes, he scored 13 ppg but he did it on bad efficiency and 12 fga per game. Not to mention that he was drafted to be a Kawai (that was his popular comp coming out of college) level defender and he has been an awful one by pretty much every stretch since he got into the league. He hasn't been able to defend, create for himself, shoot, or do anything else to justify playing time or being out there. Reminds me a lot of Mario in a lot of ways with better defensive instincts.

Yeah, they have made some bizarre moves. They moved up to get Bridges and he now is essentially replacing Josh Jackson in the rotation (along with Ariza and Warren lol). I'm not sure how they figured those two would coexist when they moved up to draft him. Neither have the size to play PF and JJ hasnt shot well enough to play SF. At this rate I really see JJ going the route that Chriss and Bender did in PHX and being another top 5 pick that busts there. Granted, not that we are much better by any means but they too have done a very poor job. The GM did get fired for a reason tho.

He averaged 17,5 ppg ( granted, on lot of shots ) in February and March ,had not effective but not that terrrible for rookies January and April as well.
But they just decided to flush him down the toilet with Mikal/Ariza/TJ Warren decisions.
Bender /Chriss thing is also mind boggling, they knew from day one that they will be long term prospects, so why be so shocked that after 2 years they are not amazing ? Bender was drafted at age of 18 without any previous experience, Chriss had some college experience but overall was raw.

Magic can have some excuse for being win now team because it's east and you can make playoffs with 38-40 wins. But Suns? Did they really think that Ariza and Anderson will somehow transform them into playoff team this year? Playoff team on West means benig close to 50 wins team.

Feels like Booker and Ayton will develop despite Suns, not because of them.

[VFX]

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Took Knicks only a few weeks after finally starting a rebuild to do what people have been begging for years here.. yeah the result might not be great but at least they don't have to wait 4 months of Jeff/Willie Green or Ben Gordon or Arron Afflalo before seeing their young dudes play together.

Holy tank. && to think that they are rolling out a lineup like that and people are still justifying BIG not even logging a single minute together says a lot. I don't expect our vets to be going anywhere anytime soon.

Yeah. NY isn’t afraid to get their hands dirty earlier than usual, rather be than worrying about this later. I still have no idea why Orlando decides to play vets 25-30+ minutes to squeeze out wins with an obviously subpar roster.

[PrimeThyme]

Suns are easly the worst runned team in NBA.

They are knees deep in rebuild yet they decided to make some wtf moves .
Len out for nothing, Payton as bad he was for them - out for nothing, they have no starting PG; yet they waste money on Ariza who at this point is semi retired, Anderson who is old and does not help them win now, they gave up on Chriss, now they gave up on Bender ( both bearly 20 years old ), drafted Mikal to bearly use him, have former 4# overall pick in Jackson who played well last year, yet benched him once again. Out of nowhere they decided to resign TJ Warren who is poor man Michael Beasley ( no defense, long 2s, player lost in modern nba between two forward positions, without skill to play any of them well ).

Early outlook on Kokoškov does not look great, they are top 3 worst offense and defense in nba.Again.
They just fired GM and overall they are school books example how to not hold player accoutnable.

Devin booker by years:
rookie year :14 points -112 def rating
second year: 22 ppg - 115 def rating
thrid- - 25 ppg - 116 def rating
fourth - 26 ppg - 117 def rating

congratulation, your allegedly key peace literally plays less and less defense by years to expense of his PPGs that show zero reflections in Ws. Matter of fact you won more games 4 years ago than last year.

Whole Bender/Chris fiasco to play Ryan Anderson is probably best reflection of knee jerk reaction team that simply has no idea what they are doing.

Agree with most all of this, except the Josh Jackson playing well last year part. He really didn't play well, by any stretch. Yes, he scored 13 ppg but he did it on bad efficiency and 12 fga per game. Not to mention that he was drafted to be a Kawai (that was his popular comp coming out of college) level defender and he has been an awful one by pretty much every stretch since he got into the league. He hasn't been able to defend, create for himself, shoot, or do anything else to justify playing time or being out there. Reminds me a lot of Mario in a lot of ways with better defensive instincts.

Yeah, they have made some bizarre moves. They moved up to get Bridges and he now is essentially replacing Josh Jackson in the rotation (along with Ariza and Warren lol). I'm not sure how they figured those two would coexist when they moved up to draft him. Neither have the size to play PF and JJ hasnt shot well enough to play SF. At this rate I really see JJ going the route that Chriss and Bender did in PHX and being another top 5 pick that busts there. Granted, not that we are much better by any means but they too have done a very poor job. The GM did get fired for a reason tho.

He averaged 17,5 ppg ( granted, on lot of shots ) in February and March ,had not effective but not that terrrible for rookies January and April as well.
But they just decided to flush him down the toilet with Mikal/Ariza/TJ Warren decisions.
Bender /Chriss thing is also mind boggling, they knew from day one that they will be long term prospects, so why be so shocked that after 2 years they are not amazing ? Bender was drafted at age of 18 without any previous experience, Chriss had some college experience but overall was raw.

Magic can have some excuse for being win now team because it's east and you can make playoffs with 38-40 wins. But Suns? Did they really think that Ariza and Anderson will somehow transform them into playoff team this year? Playoff team on West means benig close to 50 wins team.

Feels like Booker and Ayton will develop despite Suns, not because of them.

Again, that is literally a direct result of his FG attempts going up to 15-16 during that stretch. He averaged 23 ppg in the month of april....on 24 fga lol. He is a less efficient Andrew Wiggins at this point.

They will sell off those vets by mid-season and tank hard. Ayton and Booker despite all the faults of the previous regime are two gems and they have two cornerstones with them.

[IllMagic04]

Bamba looks like a future star, if he was in LA, Boston, or NY they'd already be building statues. One stat I like is the offensive and defensive ratings, Young is -9 and Bamba is +6.

The double double he put up last night was very impressive. He is starting to have a big impact on the game and the stronger he gets, the more playing time he will get and more he can push out Vucevic and start our new era!

I actually think Vuc will start until he is traded, which I think (hope) will be sooner rather than later....

Bamba is going to be a very good player. I like him alot. I just wanted Young more. He was everything we needed. But im not trying to make it sound like I dont like Bamba. I think he will be a defensive juggernaut when he gets stronger and learns. Once he gets a pg that can get him the ball in good spots he will score more too. He just wont be a guy who can take over games offensivly. Which is what I wanted

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[pepe1991]

Tank race is earlier than usual this year

[DiplomaticMagic]

I think I'm off the Rozier bandwagon. No clue who our PG is going to be though.

[Hogified05]

Too late to trade for Murray? Lol. Dude is starting to realize his potential. My sister moved to Denver 2 years ago. So guess I can root for them in the playoffs lol.

If Micheal Porter Jr is as half as good as he was suppose to be before he got hurt Denver is going be a problem for awhile man.

Also. Canada is legit going be a threat in 2020 if all healthy and all reaching their potential. Murray. Wiggins. Barrett. Shai. Joesph. Olynyk. Thompson. Lyles. Staukaus. Powell. Wiggins, Murray and possibly Barrett might be enough alone to give the USA serious problems add in some athletic size with Thompson, Powell, Lyles and KO. Think they are one stud 7 footer away from being a really big time threat. (Also PG that's starting for UF this year. Be interested to see how he does.)

[pepe1991]

Too late to trade for Murray? Lol. Dude is starting to realize his potential. My sister moved to Denver 2 years ago. So guess I can root for them in the playoffs lol.

If Micheal Porter Jr is as half as good as he was suppose to be before he got hurt Denver is going be a problem for awhile man.

Also. Canada is legit going be a threat in 2020 if all healthy and all reaching their potential. Murray. Wiggins. Barrett. Shai. Joesph. Olynyk. Thompson. Lyles. Staukaus. Powell. Wiggins, Murray and possibly Barrett might be enough alone to give the USA serious problems add in some athletic size with Thompson, Powell, Lyles and KO. Think they are one stud 7 footer away from being a really big time threat. (Also PG that's starting for UF this year. Be interested to see how he does.)

I wanted to trade for him when he was "nobody" so badly

[WeAreVenom]

The double double he put up last night was very impressive. He is starting to have a big impact on the game and the stronger he gets, the more playing time he will get and more he can push out Vucevic and start our new era!

I actually think Vuc will start until he is traded, which I think (hope) will be sooner rather than later....

Bamba is going to be a very good player. I like him alot. I just wanted Young more. He was everything we needed. But im not trying to make it sound like I dont like Bamba. I think he will be a defensive juggernaut when he gets stronger and learns. Once he gets a pg that can get him the ball in good spots he will score more too. He just wont be a guy who can take over games offensivly. Which is what I wanted

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I agree 100%

I like Mo alot, but we needed Trey. Even if only to make the games more interesting, it's hard to watch the team as it is now.

[pepe1991]

I think I'm off the Rozier bandwagon. No clue who our PG is going to be though.

Rozier has been horrible whole his career, he just had nice streach of games when most people watched .