Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VI: "I like this team"

[pepe1991]

So just thinking out loud...

Klay thompson is likely out for the year....
Warriors have a 17m tpe...
Evan makes 17m....

Is there something there?

Are you ready to lose starting SG for ... 24-30 pick next year ?

Absolutely

If your only desire is to lose as many games, than sure.

But let's get real, even worst teams want to have some structure that does not hinder their assets.

Magic projected depth chart today is:

SG: Evan/Ross/--
SF: nobody/ Ross
PF: Gordon/Aminu/ Okeke

Is'a already bad as it is and FA will be used to fill SF spot, it's almost a given.

Lose Evan and your depth chart is
SG: Ross/ nobody /nobody
SF : Gordon/nobody/nobody
PF : Aminu/ Okeke

Not only that you washed your pick for basically nothing ( since that's what most 25-30 picks are ) , you also just pulled Ross into starter, something he can't be, and Gordon out of position, position where he flat out sucks at.

And now you are starting Aminu who spent whole year hurt and is 30.

So now you are burning yet another $9M ( 3 years, $30M ) mid level exception on another questionable player like Solomon Hill,Moore, KCP ... just to have funcional roster and you will still need additional, traditional SF. Once again, don't forget Magic moved second round picks to not play that many rookies.

It's a mess. Evan, if traded, should be traded for 2 players or 1 that has longer contract that actually can play rotation min, not pick that will turn into some new Darius Bazley or Mfiondu Kabengele ( yea, that's what late first rounders give you most of the time, guys you need to google to find they exist )

[Knightro]

Feels like the Magic almost have to flip Gordon for a more natural SG/SF if they insist on fielding the most competitive team they can.

The free agency crop is really not too good.

[VFX]

Feels like the Magic almost have to flip Gordon for a more natural SG/SF if they insist on fielding the most competitive team they can.

The free agency crop is really not too good.

I want to hope Weltman and Hammond have the framework for a trade laid out already. Weltman said they didn’t want to give up roster spots because he wanted to see how free agency shook out. Do I believe him? Not really.

Rolling out this roster will be a very uninspired.

[fendilim]

When does fa start?

[Tarheel]

Feels like the Magic almost have to flip Gordon for a more natural SG/SF if they insist on fielding the most competitive team they can.

The free agency crop is really not too good.

I've been thinking this too but not sure who the best target is.

Hayward is probably the best potentially available fit, but there's a whole host of reasons why I don't think we should pursue him.

Maybe something could be done with Oubre but I don't want to give up a pick for him.

Levert maybe?

[Tarheel]

When does fa start?

6pm Eastern tomorrow.

[OrlandoNed]

With Golden State likely losing Klay for next season, I think this is a great opportunity to flip Fournier for a 1st.

Golden State takes Evan into their TPE and we get the worse of their 1st and the Wolves 1st and maybe a 2nd.

We can fill our SG and SF holes with a handful of vets on minimum deals, like Bellineli, Moore, Hill, Turner, Burks, MKG etc.

We aren’t winning anything this year especially without Isaac, so why not build up our asset collection and still try to be competitive with vets looking to play their way into another contract.

[Xatticus]

With Golden State likely losing Klay for next season, I think this is a great opportunity to flip Fournier for a 1st.

Golden State takes Evan into their TPE and we get the worse of their 1st and the Wolves 1st and maybe a 2nd.

We can fill our SG and SF holes with a handful of vets on minimum deals, like Bellineli, Moore, Hill, Turner, Burks, MKG etc.

We aren’t winning anything this year especially without Isaac, so why not build up our asset collection and still try to be competitive with vets looking to play their way into another contract.

I really doubt GS is willing to take on his salary at this point. There is no point in paying the massive luxury tax penalty with Thompson out. If anything, I'd expect them to shift directions and work on retooling for the following season while they develop Wiseman.

[MagicFan101]

Knicks just declined all the Team Options to clear $40M in cap space.

They still need a PG. They could sign Fred VanVleet but you don’t need $40M for that ...

Sure looks like they are clearing room for absorbing Russell Westbrook.

[Skin]

Are you ready to lose starting SG for ... 24-30 pick next year ?

Absolutely

If your only desire is to lose as many games, than sure.

But let's get real, even worst teams want to have some structure that does not hinder their assets.

Magic projected depth chart today is:

SG: Evan/Ross/--
SF: nobody/ Ross
PF: Gordon/Aminu/ Okeke

Is'a already bad as it is and FA will be used to fill SF spot, it's almost a given.

Lose Evan and your depth chart is
SG: Ross/ nobody /nobody
SF : Gordon/nobody/nobody
PF : Aminu/ Okeke

Not only that you washed your pick for basically nothing ( since that's what most 25-30 picks are ) , you also just pulled Ross into starter, something he can't be, and Gordon out of position, position where he flat out sucks at.

And now you are starting Aminu who spent whole year hurt and is 30.

So now you are burning yet another $9M ( 3 years, $30M ) mid level exception on another questionable player like Solomon Hill,Moore, KCP ... just to have funcional roster and you will still need additional, traditional SF. Once again, don't forget Magic moved second round picks to not play that many rookies.

It's a mess. Evan, if traded, should be traded for 2 players or 1 that has longer contract that actually can play rotation min, not pick that will turn into some new Darius Bazley or Mfiondu Kabengele ( yea, that's what late first rounders give you most of the time, guys you need to google to find they exist )

According to Weltman, our roster is so stacked that we couldn't even afford to keep our 2nd rounder. Not even to stash him. Apparently, our Lakeland squad is too stacked as well.

Don't worry pepe. All will be well for you this year. You're gonna get exactly what you desire.

Is this not the team you want to use to try to get as far as we can in the playoffs? Player development be damned, THIS is the way successful teams rebuild, no?

PG Fultz / Anthony / MCW
SG Fournier / Iwundu
SF Gordon / Ross / Clark
PF Aminu / Okeke
C Vucevic / Birch / Bamba

[jonbob17]

Absolutely

If your only desire is to lose as many games, than sure.

But let's get real, even worst teams want to have some structure that does not hinder their assets.

Magic projected depth chart today is:

SG: Evan/Ross/--
SF: nobody/ Ross
PF: Gordon/Aminu/ Okeke

Is'a already bad as it is and FA will be used to fill SF spot, it's almost a given.

Lose Evan and your depth chart is
SG: Ross/ nobody /nobody
SF : Gordon/nobody/nobody
PF : Aminu/ Okeke

Not only that you washed your pick for basically nothing ( since that's what most 25-30 picks are ) , you also just pulled Ross into starter, something he can't be, and Gordon out of position, position where he flat out sucks at.

And now you are starting Aminu who spent whole year hurt and is 30.

So now you are burning yet another $9M ( 3 years, $30M ) mid level exception on another questionable player like Solomon Hill,Moore, KCP ... just to have funcional roster and you will still need additional, traditional SF. Once again, don't forget Magic moved second round picks to not play that many rookies.

It's a mess. Evan, if traded, should be traded for 2 players or 1 that has longer contract that actually can play rotation min, not pick that will turn into some new Darius Bazley or Mfiondu Kabengele ( yea, that's what late first rounders give you most of the time, guys you need to google to find they exist )

According to Weltman, our roster is so stacked that we couldn't even afford to keep our 2nd rounder. Not even to stash him. Apparently, our Lakeland squad is too stacked as well.

Don't worry pepe. All will be well for you this year. You're gonna get exactly what you desire.

Is this not the team you want to use to try to get as far as we can in the playoffs? Player development be damned, THIS is the way successful teams rebuild, no?

PG Fultz / Anthony / MCW
SG Fournier / Iwundu
SF Gordon / Ross / Clark
PF Aminu / Okeke
C Vucevic / Birch / Bamba

We trade it to asset needy teams like the Bucs. Let the Bucs, Celtics, Sixers, and Raptors of the world make 2nd round picks. Peasants.

[basketballRob]

With Golden State likely losing Klay for next season, I think this is a great opportunity to flip Fournier for a 1st.

Golden State takes Evan into their TPE and we get the worse of their 1st and the Wolves 1st and maybe a 2nd.

We can fill our SG and SF holes with a handful of vets on minimum deals, like Bellineli, Moore, Hill, Turner, Burks, MKG etc.

We aren’t winning anything this year especially without Isaac, so why not build up our asset collection and still try to be competitive with vets looking to play their way into another contract.

I really doubt GS is willing to take on his salary at this point. There is no point in paying the massive luxury tax penalty with Thompson out. If anything, I'd expect them to shift directions and work on retooling for the following season while they develop Wiseman.

The Warriors ownership has given them permission to use the TPE.

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[The Effect]

Are you ready to lose starting SG for ... 24-30 pick next year ?

Absolutely

If your only desire is to lose as many games, than sure.

But let's get real, even worst teams want to have some structure that does not hinder their assets.

Magic projected depth chart today is:

SG: Evan/Ross/--
SF: nobody/ Ross
PF: Gordon/Aminu/ Okeke

Is'a already bad as it is and FA will be used to fill SF spot, it's almost a given.

Lose Evan and your depth chart is
SG: Ross/ nobody /nobody
SF : Gordon/nobody/nobody
PF : Aminu/ Okeke

Not only that you washed your pick for basically nothing ( since that's what most 25-30 picks are ) , you also just pulled Ross into starter, something he can't be, and Gordon out of position, position where he flat out sucks at.

And now you are starting Aminu who spent whole year hurt and is 30.

So now you are burning yet another $9M ( 3 years, $30M ) mid level exception on another questionable player like Solomon Hill,Moore, KCP ... just to have funcional roster and you will still need additional, traditional SF. Once again, don't forget Magic moved second round picks to not play that many rookies.

It's a mess. Evan, if traded, should be traded for 2 players or 1 that has longer contract that actually can play rotation min, not pick that will turn into some new Darius Bazley or Mfiondu Kabengele ( yea, that's what late first rounders give you most of the time, guys you need to google to find they exist )

No, my desire is to build for the future, not for 2021 because clearly the way this team is assembled, we arent competing this year against teams like the bucks, nets, 76ers, celtics, heat. So clear room, develop young guys, and plan for the long term

Id much rather send out a lineup of
Fultz\Anthony in the backcourt, both are interchangable and can play the 1-2
Vuc\Gordon at C and PF
and then at SF, give iwundu a chance, let Chuma play some SF, give Frasier some PT for once, bring back Clark for min etc

And btw, id trade evan for Bazley straight up right now if OKC would do it, they wouldnt

As for Aminu, id rather they pay him to stay home than ever have to watch him in a game, hes horrible, and anyone who was on this board with their homer classes off told you that last year. It was a horrible signing then and now. Hopefully they find a way to get him off the roster asap

[MoMM]

Knicks just declined all the Team Options to clear $40M in cap space.

They still need a PG. They could sign Fred VanVleet but you don’t need $40M for that ...

Sure looks like they are clearing room for absorbing Russell Westbrook.

Or maybe they just wouldn't re-sign those players anyway, so why keep under the books?

[Skin]

Absolutely

If your only desire is to lose as many games, than sure.

But let's get real, even worst teams want to have some structure that does not hinder their assets.

Magic projected depth chart today is:

SG: Evan/Ross/--
SF: nobody/ Ross
PF: Gordon/Aminu/ Okeke

Is'a already bad as it is and FA will be used to fill SF spot, it's almost a given.

Lose Evan and your depth chart is
SG: Ross/ nobody /nobody
SF : Gordon/nobody/nobody
PF : Aminu/ Okeke

Not only that you washed your pick for basically nothing ( since that's what most 25-30 picks are ) , you also just pulled Ross into starter, something he can't be, and Gordon out of position, position where he flat out sucks at.

And now you are starting Aminu who spent whole year hurt and is 30.

So now you are burning yet another $9M ( 3 years, $30M ) mid level exception on another questionable player like Solomon Hill,Moore, KCP ... just to have funcional roster and you will still need additional, traditional SF. Once again, don't forget Magic moved second round picks to not play that many rookies.

It's a mess. Evan, if traded, should be traded for 2 players or 1 that has longer contract that actually can play rotation min, not pick that will turn into some new Darius Bazley or Mfiondu Kabengele ( yea, that's what late first rounders give you most of the time, guys you need to google to find they exist )

No, my desire is to build for the future, not for 2021 because clearly the way this team is assembled, we arent competing this year against teams like the bucks, nets, 76ers, celtics, heat. So clear room, develop young guys, and plan for the long term

Id much rather send out a lineup of
Fultz\Anthony in the backcourt, both are interchangable and can play the 1-2
Vuc\Gordon at C and PF
and then at SF, give iwundu a chance, let Chuma play some SF, give Frasier some PT for once, bring back Clark for min etc

And btw, id trade evan for Bazley straight up right now if OKC would do it, they wouldnt

As for Aminu, id rather they pay him to stay home than ever have to watch him in a game, hes horrible, and anyone who was on this board with their homer classes off told you that last year. It was a horrible signing then and now. Hopefully they find a way to get him off the roster asap

I hated the Aminu signing when it happened and I still hate it now. I agree. They should tell him to stay home. I'd even let Bamba play the 4 over him.

[D12VCMagic]

Oubre is getting dealt to the Warriors, that takes them out for AG most likely.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

Read on Twitter

Interesting little nugget

[MagicFan101]

With Golden State likely losing Klay for next season, I think this is a great opportunity to flip Fournier for a 1st.

Golden State takes Evan into their TPE and we get the worse of their 1st and the Wolves 1st and maybe a 2nd.

We can fill our SG and SF holes with a handful of vets on minimum deals, like Bellineli, Moore, Hill, Turner, Burks, MKG etc.

We aren’t winning anything this year especially without Isaac, so why not build up our asset collection and still try to be competitive with vets looking to play their way into another contract.

Looks like they are adding Oubre.

[RookieStar]

Read on Twitter

Interesting little nugget

Wow...

[TheGlyde]

With Golden State likely losing Klay for next season, I think this is a great opportunity to flip Fournier for a 1st.

Golden State takes Evan into their TPE and we get the worse of their 1st and the Wolves 1st and maybe a 2nd.

We can fill our SG and SF holes with a handful of vets on minimum deals, like Bellineli, Moore, Hill, Turner, Burks, MKG etc.

We aren’t winning anything this year especially without Isaac, so why not build up our asset collection and still try to be competitive with vets looking to play their way into another contract.

I really doubt GS is willing to take on his salary at this point. There is no point in paying the massive luxury tax penalty with Thompson out. If anything, I'd expect them to shift directions and work on retooling for the following season while they develop Wiseman.

But you can't just stick Steph and Draymond in the freezer for another year and wait to make the Championship run in 2022... Clock is ticking on those guys age wise. Who even knows what Klay will be when he gets back. It's been over 500 days since he last played a game, and hes going to miss another 300+