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Re: Official 2024-2025 Magic General Season Thread I 

Post#2661 » by drsd » Tue Apr 15, 2025 6:48 am

rcklsscognition wrote:Paolo brought up getting the ball to half court with 16 left a couple weeks ago saying it was an issue. They’ve been talking about it at least


One thing I’ve noticed since Joseph started is how much more frequently the Magic is running fast breaks. This is a young team, and that’s a smart, high-efficiency style of play. Yes, it takes energy—but again, this is a young team.

My point: Joseph himself usually isn’t part of those breaks.

Maybe it’s more about a general coaching shift toward "pushing the ball," which is leading to the increase in fast-break opportunities.
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Re: Official 2024-2025 Magic General Season Thread I 

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Re: Official 2024-2025 Magic General Season Thread I 

Post#2663 » by Skybox » Tue Apr 15, 2025 11:03 am

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KillMonger wrote:Dell said something interesting during his interview today, seems like the players know that this may be the last time this team is together..... They know moves are going to be made

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Family is breaking up.


Kindergarten was fun. Made lots of nice friends...time to get serious.
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Re: Official 2024-2025 Magic General Season Thread I 

Post#2664 » by Skybox » Tue Apr 15, 2025 11:05 am

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rcklsscognition wrote:Paolo brought up getting the ball to half court with 16 left a couple weeks ago saying it was an issue. They’ve been talking about it at least


One thing I’ve noticed since Joseph started is how much more frequently the Magic is running fast breaks. This is a young team, and that’s a smart, high-efficiency style of play. Yes, it takes energy—but again, this is a young team.

My point: Joseph himself usually isn’t part of those breaks.

Maybe it’s more about a general coaching shift toward "pushing the ball," which is leading to the increase in fast-break opportunities.


Suggs and KCP POA "defense into offense" was the general idea, turnovers leading to lightning breaks to the rim...it's fun, but you really need a playmaker the other 80% of the time.
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Re: Official 2024-2025 Magic General Season Thread I 

Post#2665 » by Skybox » Tue Apr 15, 2025 11:10 am

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So maybe Mosley isn’t brain dead and also knows this team needs a Proper PG.


I think Mose is great and I really hope that he's not the barrier to proper offense...He's young enough to change philosophy just a bit, given experience and new info. Weltman is much less likely to adapt or admit (to himself) that he's been building something good, but not really complete.

THIS is the summer where we find out. Cory Joseph is worth every penny of his $3.3m...but not much more. He's just a small taste of what ORL could be with a serious PG...Look around the league-it's a PG league, even if the position has largely shifted its identity to more of a scoring lead guard. We don't need a Trae-level guy, but we need a PG.
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Post#2666 » by basketballRob » Tue Apr 15, 2025 11:53 am

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MartinsIzAfraud wrote:
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So maybe Mosley isn’t brain dead and also knows this team needs a Proper PG.


I think Mose is great and I really hope that he's not the barrier to proper offense...He's young enough to change philosophy just a bit, given experience and new info. Weltman is much less likely to adapt or admit (to himself) that he's been building something good, but not really complete.

THIS is the summer where we find out. Cory Joseph is worth every penny of his $3.3m...but not much more. He's just a small taste of what ORL could be with a serious PG...Look around the league-it's a PG league, even if the position has largely shifted its identity to more of a scoring lead guard. We don't need a Trae-level guy, but we need a PG.
What makes the offense bad is allowing Wendell, Paolo, and others to take bad shots every game.

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Post#2667 » by basketballRob » Tue Apr 15, 2025 12:02 pm

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basketballRob wrote:Black 21/8/5 when playing without Franz and Paolo. With 2.5 spg.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/anthony-black-stats-over-last-2-games

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Don't make me hope.

basketballRob wrote:
MartinsIzAfraud wrote:
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So maybe Mosley isn’t brain dead and also knows this team needs a Proper PG.
That's a knock on Cole.

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Black too.
Cole started 22 games before Joseph and was 8-14. Cole has a habit of walking the ball up the court and holding the ball while he looks for a shot or assist. Black had no problem getting the ball up the court and handing the ball off, but he would go hide in the corner after he handed the ball off.

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Post#2668 » by JoshuaPotter » Tue Apr 15, 2025 12:12 pm

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JoshuaPotter wrote:
basketballRob wrote:Black 21/8/5 when playing without Franz and Paolo. With 2.5 spg.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/anthony-black-stats-over-last-2-games

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Don't make me hope.

basketballRob wrote:That's a knock on Cole.

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Black too.
Cole started 22 games before Joseph and was 8-14. Cole has a habit of walking the ball up the court and holding the ball while he looks for a shot or assist. Black had no problem getting the ball up the court and handing the ball off, but he would go hide in the corner after he handed the ball off.

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I can take your word for it on the Black part because I only listen to games. Because both sound detrimentally correct in their technical approaches to the game. Or what I hear.
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Post#2669 » by basketballRob » Tue Apr 15, 2025 12:21 pm

JoshuaPotter wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
JoshuaPotter wrote:
Don't make me hope.



Black too.
Cole started 22 games before Joseph and was 8-14. Cole has a habit of walking the ball up the court and holding the ball while he looks for a shot or assist. Black had no problem getting the ball up the court and handing the ball off, but he would go hide in the corner after he handed the ball off.

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I can take your word for it on the Black part because I only listen to games. Because both sound detrimentally correct in their technical approaches to the game. Or what I hear.
Black has improved since the beginning of the season.

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Post#2670 » by JoshuaPotter » Tue Apr 15, 2025 12:25 pm

basketballRob wrote:
JoshuaPotter wrote:
basketballRob wrote:Cole started 22 games before Joseph and was 8-14. Cole has a habit of walking the ball up the court and holding the ball while he looks for a shot or assist. Black had no problem getting the ball up the court and handing the ball off, but he would go hide in the corner after he handed the ball off.

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I can take your word for it on the Black part because I only listen to games. Because both sound detrimentally correct in their technical approaches to the game. Or what I hear.
Black has improved since the beginning of the season.

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At the beginning and end of the season he started showing a desperately needed leap in confidence. Whether the leash came off, or he just started to become more in game confident I don't know.

I do not like how often he disappears especially for a point guard. But that doesn't mean he can't continue to develop. Year 3 will be very important for him as he has proven he is a corner 3 shooter but that individual skill set doesn't make him useful as the guy dribbling the ball upcourt unless he hands it off or its on the break.

Playin Black might give us some insight. This is the first time well demand more of him.
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Re: Official 2024-2025 Magic General Season Thread I 

Post#2671 » by JoshuaPotter » Tue Apr 15, 2025 1:26 pm

Don't have cable, how can I watch this game ala cart? Is there any way to tune in just for the 1 game without going to a sports bar?
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Post#2672 » by Magicman125 » Tue Apr 15, 2025 1:30 pm

JoshuaPotter wrote:Don't have cable, how can I watch this game ala cart? Is there any way to tune in just for the 1 game without going to a sports bar?


TNT Overtime should have a free stream (no commentary) on NBA.com
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Re: Official 2024-2025 Magic General Season Thread I 

Post#2673 » by Skybox » Tue Apr 15, 2025 1:32 pm

basketballRob wrote:
JoshuaPotter wrote:
basketballRob wrote:Cole started 22 games before Joseph and was 8-14. Cole has a habit of walking the ball up the court and holding the ball while he looks for a shot or assist. Black had no problem getting the ball up the court and handing the ball off, but he would go hide in the corner after he handed the ball off.

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I can take your word for it on the Black part because I only listen to games. Because both sound detrimentally correct in their technical approaches to the game. Or what I hear.
Black has improved since the beginning of the season.

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Yes...he's becoming a very reliable SG/SF.
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Re: Official 2024-2025 Magic General Season Thread I 

Post#2674 » by basketballRob » Tue Apr 15, 2025 1:47 pm

Skybox wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
JoshuaPotter wrote:
I can take your word for it on the Black part because I only listen to games. Because both sound detrimentally correct in their technical approaches to the game. Or what I hear.
Black has improved since the beginning of the season.

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Yes...he's becoming a very reliable SG/SF.
That's all you can expect while he continues to learn how to be a PG on a winning team.

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Post#2675 » by eyriq » Tue Apr 15, 2025 1:50 pm

Some JI hype. Wild it's still out there

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Post#2676 » by rcklsscognition » Tue Apr 15, 2025 2:13 pm

https://news.sportslogos.net/2025/04/14/sources-orlando-magic-to-unveil-new-logos-uniforms-for-2025-26-season/basketball/

New logo and jerseys coming this summer. Obvious but this one seems like a bigger change.
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Post#2677 » by pepe1991 » Tue Apr 15, 2025 2:38 pm

Skybox wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
JoshuaPotter wrote:
I can take your word for it on the Black part because I only listen to games. Because both sound detrimentally correct in their technical approaches to the game. Or what I hear.
Black has improved since the beginning of the season.

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Yes...he's becoming a very reliable SG/SF.


*backup SF*

On team that is talent depleated on offense, so he gets bigger role than he should or one he can handle.

His eFG dropped by near 7% from rookie year.
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Post#2678 » by eyriq » Tue Apr 15, 2025 2:40 pm

pepe1991 wrote:
Skybox wrote:
basketballRob wrote:Black has improved since the beginning of the season.

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Yes...he's becoming a very reliable SG/SF.


*backup SF*

On team that is talent depleated on offense, so he gets bigger role than he should or one he can handle.

His eFG dropped by near 7% from rookie year.
He's obviously our point guard. Be better.
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Re: Official 2024-2025 Magic General Season Thread I 

Post#2679 » by VFX » Tue Apr 15, 2025 2:43 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:https://news.sportslogos.net/2025/04/14/sources-orlando-magic-to-unveil-new-logos-uniforms-for-2025-26-season/basketball/

New logo and jerseys coming this summer. Obvious but this one seems like a bigger change.


Thank god
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Post#2680 » by zaymon » Tue Apr 15, 2025 4:23 pm

VFX wrote:
rcklsscognition wrote:https://news.sportslogos.net/2025/04/14/sources-orlando-magic-to-unveil-new-logos-uniforms-for-2025-26-season/basketball/

New logo and jerseys coming this summer. Obvious but this one seems like a bigger change.


Thank god


It seems like they plan to match logo change with roster change.
I have nothing against it.
Making play in was the most realistic outcome with or without injuries and with or without trades.
We were patient with not using and accumulating assets. Now we should start to act.
My money is on Banchero going number 1 !

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