Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XL Off-Season Edition)

AdamTheGreek · Post #281 » by **AdamTheGreek** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:26 am

I want to keep Hedo because if he's horrible again this season we can just cut him next summer and his contract is a lot more of a salary cap eater than J-Rich's.

If teams don't want Hedo, they better take a few of Duhon, J-Rich, Q-Rich, and probably Glen (who I like a lot, but we're rebuilding and dumping as much salary as possible).

BadMofoPimp · Post #282 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:29 am

Hedo can be a nice facilitator with Bynum and BBD. Would make for an interesting offense.

OrlandO · Post #283 » by **OrlandO** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:29 am

darthcheech2000 wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
darthcheech2000 wrote:Since Nicholson has a degree in chemistry can his nickname be "Heisenberg"?

Love me some breaking bad.

Andrew Nicholson has a physics degree, not a chemistry degree.

However, Werner Heisenberg was technically a physicist not a chemist so your idea still holds. There is such a tight bond between mathematics and all natural sciences that it in the end it is hard to differentiate between them in terms of new research. I'm an applied mathematician but I often feel like a physicist.

I was correct, even though it was only a convenient technicality. #winning

I believe he originally started out in chemistry, but switched to Physics...

SolidSnake008 · Post #284 » by **SolidSnake008** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:30 am

imo i don't think Bynum and BBD can coexist.....for some reason i feel like their personalities will clash....Bynum or not i want to see what i can get on the Market for BBD......If we can get a nice piece then trade him.....

Skin · Post #285 » by **Skin** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:33 am

AdamTheGreek wrote:I want to keep Hedo because if he's horrible again this season we can just cut him next summer and his contract is a lot more of a salary cap eater than J-Rich's.

If teams don't want Hedo, they better take a few of Duhon, J-Rich, Q-Rich, and probably Glen (who I like a lot, but we're rebuilding and dumping as much salary as possible).

If we cut Hedo, he'd cost roughly $6M against our cap.

If we stretched JRich, he'd cost roughtly $2.6M against our cap (over a drawn out period though).

So it depends how you look at it.

Nemesis21 · Post #286 » by **Nemesis21** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:33 am

AdamTheGreek wrote:I want to keep Hedo because if he's horrible again this season we can just cut him next summer and his contract is a lot more of a salary cap eater than J-Rich's.

If teams don't want Hedo, they better take a few of Duhon, J-Rich, Q-Rich, and probably Glen (who I like a lot, but we're rebuilding and dumping as much salary as possible).

+1

TSKD000 · Post #287 » by **TSKD000** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:34 am

So if HOU gets Lin and Asik and wants to keep KMart, then how is that going to work in a trade??

Lin - 8 million
Asik - 8 million
KMart - 13 million
Patterson - 2 million
Douglass - 2 million
Morris - 2 million
Forbes (who? lol) - 1.5 million
Donatas - 1.4 million
Brockman - 1 million
Parsons - 1 million (rnd up)
Harrellson - 1 million (rnd up)
Jordan - 1 million (rnd up)

$42 million total

$16 million cap space

Patterson/Morris/Douglass/Parsons/Brockman = 8 million + 16 million cap space = 24 million

Howard - 19 million
JRich - 6 million
Duhon - 4 million = 29 million

So trade if they kept KMart would HAVE to be

Howard/JRich/Duhon for Patterson/Morris/Douglass/Parsons/Brockman/Lamb/White or Jones + picks

If I am NOT mistaken...

Nelson/Douglass
Lamb/Redick/Liggins
White/Parsons/Hedo/Q
Patterson/Nicholson/Morris/Harper/Clark
BBD/Ayon/O'Quinn/Brockman

magicman123 · Post #288 » by **magicman123** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:45 am

depends on how you look at it

hedo: $11.8mil, $12mil ($6mil guaranteed)

jrich: $5.8mil, $6.2mil, $6.6mil (player option)

Post #289 » by **Def Swami** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:52 am

TSKD000 wrote:
Nelson/Douglass
Lamb/Redick/Liggins
White/Parsons/Hedo/Q
Patterson/Nicholson/Morris/Harper/Clark
BBD/Ayon/O'Quinn/Brockman

BBD should never be the starting center of any team unless it's football.

MAGICian619 · Post #290 » by **MAGICian619** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:57 am

Ok apparently I was wrong and the Knicks will not be matching. Lin's officially on the Rockets payroll now. I know we want Houston to have as much cap space as possible, but I think this pushes Houston harder to get Dwight and hopefully increases their offer. In the end, the Knicks not matching for Lin could be beneficial for us. One thing for sure though is there is def no benefit to us for the Bulls not matching on Asik. I understand that technically a deal could still be done but a much better one can be done without Asik on their payroll.

PLEASE CHICAGO MATCH FOR ASIK!

Darth Magic · Post #291 » by **Darth Magic** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:57 am

VGOSWAMI wrote:
TSKD000 wrote:
Nelson/Douglass
Lamb/Redick/Liggins
White/Parsons/Hedo/Q
Patterson/Nicholson/Morris/Harper/Clark
BBD/Ayon/O'Quinn/Brockman

BBD should never be the starting center of any team unless it's football.

TSKD000 · Post #292 » by **TSKD000** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:00 am

Bored and thinking out loud...lol

If we made this trade...

Howard/JRich/BBD/Duhon

for

Bynum/Gasol

What seed in the East are we next year?? I say 5th

Nelson/FA
Redick/Liggins
Hedo/Clark/Q
Gasol/Nicholson/Harper
Bynum/Ayon/O'Quinn

We would have a huge frontcourt advantage in size.

Orlando Tragic · Post #293 » by **Orlando Tragic** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:03 am

"The parameters of the deal are reportedly agreed upon, but the deal appears to be contingent on Howard’s willingness to sign a contract extension with the Lakers."

Huh???

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/07/ ... ard-trade/

thelead · Post #294 » by **thelead** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:06 am

Orlando Tragic wrote:"The parameters of the deal are reportedly agreed upon, but the deal appears to be contingent on Howard’s willingness to sign a contract extension with the Lakers."

Huh???

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/07/ ... ard-trade/

12hrs late

MagicFan101 · Post #295 » by **MagicFan101** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:07 am

Orlando Tragic wrote:"The parameters of the deal are reportedly agreed upon, but the deal appears to be contingent on Howard’s willingness to sign a contract extension with the Lakers."

Huh???

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/07/ ... ard-trade/

Other reports claim that Orlando has been in talks with Lakers (and other teams) for days and that there is nothing about today's meeting that should be mistaken for an imminent deal. As usual, everyone is reporting something different. Its hard to get overly excited or discouraged about any rumors at this point.

magicman123 · Post #296 » by **magicman123** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:13 am

bynum is the best player being mentioned in trades, but the lakers have no young talent or draft picks to offer

TheLastDon · Post #297 » by **TheLastDon** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:30 am

I want to know why there haven't been any floating rumors about Orlando acquiring anybody of consequence, just to even raise trade offers??

MagicFan101 · Post #298 » by **MagicFan101** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:42 am

TheLastDon wrote:I want to know why there haven't been any floating rumors about Orlando acquiring anybody of consequence, just to even raise trade offers??

I doubt anyone here could give a true answer to this but my assumption is that Orlando is just sitting back and letting the Lakers and Rockets fight it out. Whoever is left standing with the best offer gets Dwight. This may turn out to be a compromise such as the rumored deal involving Dwight to LA and Bynum to Houston. Either way, it appears that most teams have folded and that includes the Brooklyn Nets.

I am checking the rumor mills as much as anyone else in anticipation of a deal but I believe Hennigan is doing the right thing in taking his time and waiting this out.

MrOrlando · Post #299 » by **MrOrlando** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:49 am

Driguez wrote:
cb1115 wrote:
MrOrlando wrote:If we get Bynum, I pray for Orlando fans on the first game of to boo the living **** out of him, and let the Magic front office know how we really feel.

Are you kidding? Most fans would welcome him with open arms.

Agreed. That's just ridiculous.

As opposed to the Houston trade? I'd rather have that young talent and great draft picks than Bynum here. I've never been a fan of Bynum at all.

GameOver25 · Post #300 » by **GameOver25** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:49 am

Don't settle Henny, work this trade to perfection....