Draft Thread 7.0: The Final Countdown

[NotACat]

I don't think Memphis does this. I think it'll take Fournier and Simmons to move up.

We'll see.

I think this checks all the boxes for Memphis.

1. They still maintain a high lotto pick.
2. They get rid of Parsons and save a lot of money
3. They get another 1st round pick

If they took on Fournier, they'd actually be ADDING salary since Evan has another year longer than Parsons. Can't imagine they're really looking to take on money given their situation.

But they would be adding talent that fits very well on their team. If MPJ is their guy, he's likely to be available at 6 and then they'd be heading into next season with a starting 5 of Conley, Fournier, Brooks, MPJ, and Gasol. If they're real about going out and competing in the playoffs again, that's a solid squad.

[MagicFan101]

This whole Bamba shooting 3s mean **** unless he's successfuly able to make them when it matters. On an empty gym anyone can make anything. Does everyone not remember Dwight hitting 3s on an empty gym?

Bigs are more frequently displaying this in workouts prior to the draft because there isnt a reason to take a big in the lottery that can’t hit threes in a game. However, it isn’t even remotely the same thing. This is all novelty until it’s done reliably in a game.

But that is true for anything.

Some players (at any position) struggle with contact. They look great in the gym driving to the hoop around cones but put Draymond Green on them and the story changes quickly.

This is why I read BPA as Best “Prospect” Available. None of these kids are players yet.

[tiderulz]

Uh Ohh, looks like FO makes a mistake again.

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Someone verify this.

that looks so obviously photoshopped

Not to me. You would have to write the names in and then change the draft order.

I'm waiting on the Woj bomb about a the Magic and Memphis having discussions on a possible trade.

the names are too bold and too perfect writing. very photoshop

[rcklsscognition]

Weltman says Orlando has had some discussions about moving up from 6

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/orlando-magic/os-sp-magic-jeff-weltman-draft-preview-0619-story.html

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Sensationalized tweet.

[Knightro]

Guys there's no world where Memphis takes on Biyombos contract, put down the pipe-dream.

Biyombo's contract is equally as bad as Parsons, this makes no sense for Memphis.

This just isn't factual.

They have the same number of years, sure. But Biyombo also makes 15M dollars less than Parsons over the course of those two years.

That's not what I would consider equally as bad.

They want to save money and still have a lotto pick, that is about as good as they can do.

Who is going to give them expiring contracts for Parsons and take on his TWENTY FIVE MILLION dollar guarantee two years from now to move up a couple of spots in the draft lotto?

No one.

[tiderulz]

Guys there's no world where Memphis takes on Biyombos contract, put down the pipe-dream.

Biyombo's contract is equally as bad as Parsons, this makes no sense for Memphis.

Parsons - 2 yrs $25mil/yr

Biyombo - 2 yrs, $17mil/yr.

Biyombo's is not as bad. add in the fact he gets on the court. Parsons is obviously a better player, but he cant get on the court to play

[PennytoShaq]

I saw the same board when I think it was Sexton getting interviewed.

So you are saying that the Magic would have their draft board with their picks and trades out in a public area where there are Media interviews? You actually think this would happen?

The board was blank during the interview.

Right, I know this. Read what I posted again.

[PrimeThyme]

Weltman says Orlando has had some discussions about moving up from 6

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/orlando-magic/os-sp-magic-jeff-weltman-draft-preview-0619-story.html

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Sensationalized tweet.

Yep. The title could just as easily be Orlando has had discussions about moving down as well. Nothing to see there. Weltman isn't going to reveal anything.

[VFX]

This whole Bamba shooting 3s mean **** unless he's successfuly able to make them when it matters. On an empty gym anyone can make anything. Does everyone not remember Dwight hitting 3s on an empty gym?

Bigs are more frequently displaying this in workouts prior to the draft because there isnt a reason to take a big in the lottery that can’t hit threes in a game. However, it isn’t even remotely the same thing. This is all novelty until it’s done reliably in a game.

But that is true for anything.

Some players (at any position) struggle with contact. They look great in the gym driving to the hoop around cones but put Draymond Green on them and the story changes quickly.

This is why I read BPA as Best “Prospect” Available. None of these kids are players yet.

Very true.

However, if you are drafting in the lottery chances are high that you are looking for an impactful player. You can find bigs for cheap to rebound and play defense without the ability to shoot. Why spend a ridiculously valuable lottery pick on a big if they weren’t “unique” or “special” like KP or Embiid. Hence why that is now their main selling point.

[Magic_Johnny12]

Guys there's no world where Memphis takes on Biyombos contract, put down the pipe-dream.

Biyombo's contract is equally as bad as Parsons, this makes no sense for Memphis.

This just isn't factual.

They have the same number of years, sure. But Biyombo also makes 15M dollars less than Parsons over the course of those two years.

That's not what I would consider equally as bad.

They want to save money and still have a lotto pick, that is about as good as they can do.

Who is going to give them expiring contracts for Parsons and take on his TWENTY FIVE MILLION dollar guarantee two years from now to move up a couple of spots in the draft lotto?

No one.

If it means drafting the player you think is a superstar you do it without any hesitation and if WeHam thinks Doncic or any player for the sake of discussion is then I stand behind their decision.

We complain when we don't use our vets/cap to capitalize on a certain player, but then we complain when we use our vets to draft a potential franchise player.

You guys are hard to understand sometimes.

Parsons contract means absolutely nothing in the bigger picture.

[Skin]

Uh Ohh, looks like FO makes a mistake again.

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Someone verify this.

that looks so obviously photoshopped

Not to me. You would have to write the names in and then change the draft order.

I'm waiting on the Woj bomb about a the Magic and Memphis having discussions on a possible trade.

[Knightro]

If it means drafting the player you think is a superstar you do it without any hesitation and if WeHam thinks Doncic or any player for the sake of discussion is then I stand behind their decision.

We complain when we don't use our vets/cap to capitalize on a certain player, but then we complain when we use our vets to draft a potential franchise player.

You guys are hard to understand sometimes.

Parsons contract means absolutely nothing in the bigger picture.

If it came down to it, I would do Vucevic, Ross and 6 for Parsons and 4 provided Doncic is there, but you're not stupid either. It's easy to say "it's not my money!" when it comes to NBA transactions, but it's a tough sell for any owner to add 25M dollars to the payroll (and likely kick the Magic into the luxury tax) just to move up two spots in the draft.

Now if they think Doncic is the next James Harden, then you make the move anyway and just deal with it. But to pretend like taking on 25M dollars in one shot isn't a big deal...

[Knightro]

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The PUMA mystery all of a sudden makes a lot more sense.

[OrlandoDream]

This has been my observation for quite sometime with the whole ATL loving Young thing. One, I can't see them dipping that hard for a player at #3 while passing on arguably better players. Two, DS has made it quite clear that he doesn't want to be on a lottery team during his prime so I'm wondering what the hell are they going to do if they truly are enamored with Young.

Its NBA offseason smokescreen 101. Im as big of a Young homer as there come but passing up on Bagley or Luka for Trae Young is a fireable offense. This is Travis Schlenk first offseason as Hawks GM and he needs to nail this pick. No way he gambles on young and passes on the higher profiled player because of his "GSW history." He knows how important this pick is for the Hawks future and his job. Its all bs smokescreen.

One thing I keep reading in articles which is strategically left off of headlines regarding Atlanta and their love for Trae Young is the condition “... but not at #3 overall.”

If Young ends up in Atlanta it will likely be through a trade down.

That trade better be with MEM of DAL because Trae Young isnt making it past 6 if Bamba goes top 5.

[taj2133]

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[tiderulz]

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good luck with that

[PennytoShaq]

Bigs are more frequently displaying this in workouts prior to the draft because there isnt a reason to take a big in the lottery that can’t hit threes in a game. However, it isn’t even remotely the same thing. This is all novelty until it’s done reliably in a game.

But that is true for anything.

Some players (at any position) struggle with contact. They look great in the gym driving to the hoop around cones but put Draymond Green on them and the story changes quickly.

This is why I read BPA as Best “Prospect” Available. None of these kids are players yet.

Very true.

However, if you are drafting in the lottery chances are high that you are looking for an impactful player. You can find bigs for cheap to rebound and play defense without the ability to shoot. Why spend a ridiculously valuable lottery pick on a big if they weren’t “unique” or “special” like KP or Embiid. Hence why that is now their main selling point.

I think the argument for Bamba is that some see him as special and potentially the next Embiid.

[Blue_and_Whte]

How many games would the following rotation win assuming they stayed relatively healthy?

G: Young -> Augustin
G: Fournier -> Ross
F: Hezonja -> Simmons
F: Gordon -> Isaac
C: Vucevic -> Biyombo

Between 35-40? Am I overselling it?

No you’re not. That’s ridiculous spacing and a passable defense.


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[Knightro]

I'm trying to come up with something reasonable with Toronto and I just don't see it if they're insisting on a top 10 pick to go up and get SGA.

DeRozan is about to turn 29. I don't think anyone in their right minds would give up the 6th overall pick for him.

Poeltl, Anunoby and Siakam are nice cost controlled pieces, but also not worth a top 6 pick either.

Just don't see a fit there.

[taj2133]

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