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The Real Dalic wrote:Oh, also, can we put to rest that Evan only scores against bad defense now? Another high scoring game for him on 17 attempts. That last attempt was just a 3pt heave in desperation at the very end of the game.
basketballRob wrote:When JI matures he'll be able to put Kawhi-like defense on Giannis.
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MagicMatic wrote:Ross and Fournier has pretty good games and kept us in this one. AG fell back to earth as usual, but the bucks are a great team. Hope it’s not serious with Bamba. Injuries have been bad so far this year.
pepe1991 wrote:MagicStarwipe wrote:JI's shooting is so weird. Some games he looks like a good shooter, other games he looks Andre Roberson bad. On top of that he's a good FT shooter. Weird.
He jumps forward for no reason. Guy is 6'11, can shoot most of jumpshots without jumping.
It's not like anybody will block him.
which was really good because we missed Mo's ability to.........ChosenSavior wrote:MagicMatic wrote:Ross and Fournier has pretty good games and kept us in this one. AG fell back to earth as usual, but the bucks are a great team. Hope it’s not serious with Bamba. Injuries have been bad so far this year.
I think Bamba should be okay. He came back out there in the 2nd half to spell Birch and was moving around normal again.
Bergmaniac wrote:Very good effort, but when only 2 players in the rotation can make a 3 at a decent clip, you have no chance against a top team in the modern NBA. Isaac and AG did an excellent job on Giannis and he still got efficient 32 point and 8 assists, he is just so incredible.
Birch's hustle is commendable and he sets great screens, but against a good D his lack of offensive skills limits our offense a lot.
The bench this time was back to being terrible offensively, Ross shot very well which is encouraging, but the offensive rating with Fournier on the bench was dreadful. Ross and Fournier should have played more minutes together, that was pretty much the only time our offense looked good in this game, which again shows how valuable shooting and spacing the floor is nowadays.
Blue_and_Whte wrote:which was really good because we missed Mo's ability to.........ChosenSavior wrote:MagicMatic wrote:Ross and Fournier has pretty good games and kept us in this one. AG fell back to earth as usual, but the bucks are a great team. Hope it’s not serious with Bamba. Injuries have been bad so far this year.
I think Bamba should be okay. He came back out there in the 2nd half to spell Birch and was moving around normal again.
I mean because he's really good at...
zaymon wrote:Bergmaniac wrote:Very good effort, but when only 2 players in the rotation can make a 3 at a decent clip, you have no chance against a top team in the modern NBA. Isaac and AG did an excellent job on Giannis and he still got efficient 32 point and 8 assists, he is just so incredible.
Birch's hustle is commendable and he sets great screens, but against a good D his lack of offensive skills limits our offense a lot.
The bench this time was back to being terrible offensively, Ross shot very well which is encouraging, but the offensive rating with Fournier on the bench was dreadful. Ross and Fournier should have played more minutes together, that was pretty much the only time our offense looked good in this game, which again shows how valuable shooting and spacing the floor is nowadays.
When Gordon scores efficiently we are quite good offensively especially with Vucevic. If we traded Gordon for someone who does it consistently we would be top 4 in the east. I dont think Gordon has much role left on our team. Changing scenery would be very good for him and for us.
Blue_and_Whte wrote:which was really good because we missed Mo's ability to.........ChosenSavior wrote:MagicMatic wrote:Ross and Fournier has pretty good games and kept us in this one. AG fell back to earth as usual, but the bucks are a great team. Hope it’s not serious with Bamba. Injuries have been bad so far this year.
I think Bamba should be okay. He came back out there in the 2nd half to spell Birch and was moving around normal again.
BadMofoPimp wrote:Durant thinks Vooch is one of the Best Centers in the NBA. I will take his word over a couch-GM yelling at a TV.
Rainwater wrote:NavalAviator94 wrote:We’re actually not too dissimilar from where the Bucks were 3-4 years ago.
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As someone who watched the bucks for years as they were coming up (huge Jabari fan) I completely disagree. And not to state the obvious, even if we are talking about three years ago, there is not one player on the magic who is on the same level as Giannis.
OrlandoSaban wrote:WE ARE 1 FRIGGIN PLAYER AWAY FROM BEING A DAMN GOOD BASKETBALL TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HIS NAME IS VUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCH!!!
Dubious Kitty wrote:OrlandoSaban wrote:WE ARE 1 FRIGGIN PLAYER AWAY FROM BEING A DAMN GOOD BASKETBALL TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HIS NAME IS VUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCH!!!
That's not his name at all. Far from it. With Vuc playing the last time we faced the Bucks, we got blown out. When we relied on our wing scoring and let our guys get into a groove, we kept it close. Vuch for DeAngelo Russell makes so much sense right now.
NavalAviator94 wrote:Dubious Kitty wrote:OrlandoSaban wrote:WE ARE 1 FRIGGIN PLAYER AWAY FROM BEING A DAMN GOOD BASKETBALL TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HIS NAME IS VUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCH!!!
That's not his name at all. Far from it. With Vuc playing the last time we faced the Bucks, we got blown out. When we relied on our wing scoring and let our guys get into a groove, we kept it close. Vuch for DeAngelo Russell makes so much sense right now.
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NBlue wrote:zaymon wrote:Bergmaniac wrote:Very good effort, but when only 2 players in the rotation can make a 3 at a decent clip, you have no chance against a top team in the modern NBA. Isaac and AG did an excellent job on Giannis and he still got efficient 32 point and 8 assists, he is just so incredible.
Birch's hustle is commendable and he sets great screens, but against a good D his lack of offensive skills limits our offense a lot.
The bench this time was back to being terrible offensively, Ross shot very well which is encouraging, but the offensive rating with Fournier on the bench was dreadful. Ross and Fournier should have played more minutes together, that was pretty much the only time our offense looked good in this game, which again shows how valuable shooting and spacing the floor is nowadays.
When Gordon scores efficiently we are quite good offensively especially with Vucevic. If we traded Gordon for someone who does it consistently we would be top 4 in the east. I dont think Gordon has much role left on our team. Changing scenery would be very good for him and for us.
When I read this absurdity and other opinions along those lines I just have to take a deep breath to refrain from letting lose a string of expletives. Last 4 games AG is averaging 18.5-11-3.7 while playing defense at a damn high level. Its laughable to me that people think AG is the problem -- he is an excellent, EXCELLENT complimentary player who plays exceptional perimeter defense, is on a team friendly contract and has never had any issues off the court and is, by all accounts, someone everyone on the team likes.
LETS TRADE HIM ASAP!!!
Oh, but you mean if we just trade him for someone who scores more consistently. Sure, let's trade him for James Harden. I mean, what do people really think when they say these kind of things? I just don't get it. Sure, if we could get a top tier player like, say, Bradley Beal I think everyone understands that AG is a piece that you would give up in that deal to make it happen. But trading him to get a piece like say, Malik Beasley, where there has been trade talk and Magic interest would make sense just seems rather myopic to me. I'm not opposed to bringing in Beasley or another consistent shooter at all but involving AG in a trade without getting back a star or potential star (understanding other pieces would need to be involved) just seems dumb.
AG is a valuable, valuable player. Why on earth do so many want to just give him away.
Dubious Kitty wrote:NavalAviator94 wrote:Dubious Kitty wrote:
That's not his name at all. Far from it. With Vuc playing the last time we faced the Bucks, we got blown out. When we relied on our wing scoring and let our guys get into a groove, we kept it close. Vuch for DeAngelo Russell makes so much sense right now.
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It's gonna be a great day in Orlando when we finally realize that using a Vuc-based offense is a waste, especially in light of the fact that he doesn't even get to the line. The trend in the NBA is wing scoring and getting to the line. Period.
It's amazing to me that our wing scorers have performed so well since he went out. They're allowed to get into a comfortable groove instead of Cliff's gameplan: Give the ball to Vuc.
Another one who's not supposed to exist. Perfect timing, thank you. Not accurate though. Too many players were playing out of control and looked rusty out of the gates. Shortly after promoting Fultz and before Vuc went down they were playing much better like they did in the second half of last season. Fournier in those games: 19 ppg on 11.5 fga (55% fg, 61% 3p), so clearly he was already on fire with Vuc. Ross is back to playing like the human torch off the bench just as he did last season with Vuc. The significant development is Fultz replacing a struggling DJ as a starter. Dubious Kitty wrote:NavalAviator94 wrote:Dubious Kitty wrote:
That's not his name at all. Far from it. With Vuc playing the last time we faced the Bucks, we got blown out. When we relied on our wing scoring and let our guys get into a groove, we kept it close. Vuch for DeAngelo Russell makes so much sense right now.
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It's gonna be a great day in Orlando when we finally realize that using a Vuc-based offense is a waste, especially in light of the fact that he doesn't even get to the line. The trend in the NBA is wing scoring and getting to the line. Period.
It's amazing to me that our wing scorers have performed so well since he went out. They're allowed to get into a comfortable groove instead of Cliff's gameplan: Give the ball to Vuc.
