Summer Trades...never too early

cedric76 · Post #281 » by **cedric76** » Mon Mar 2, 2020 8:31 am

scottyg wrote:COtto Porter or Satoransky and Thad young and some type draft pick for Gordon and if needed Aminu I’m gonna manifest Gordon to Chicago

You ve got yourself a deal, make it happen :-)

Furinkazan · Post #282 » by **Furinkazan** » Mon Mar 2, 2020 11:58 am

cedric76 wrote:
scottyg wrote:COtto Porter or Satoransky and Thad young and some type draft pick for Gordon and if needed Aminu I’m gonna manifest Gordon to Chicago

You ve got yourself a deal, make it happen

no not really
dont need that collection of mediocre players

Furinkazan · Post #283 » by **Furinkazan** » Mon Mar 2, 2020 11:59 am

cedric76 wrote:
orlando_joe wrote:
cedric76 wrote:
If we had a better sg to take his place yes, but it s not the case atm.
We have a glaring hole at sf and otto can fill that need nicely

If we traded Evan for otto (just for argument sake and if contracts would work)

Then i d trade to trade ag for dinwiddie (argument sake)

Fultz. Dinwiddie. Mcw
Dinwiddie. Ross.
Otto. Chuma
Ji. Aminu
Vuc. Mo. Birch

I d love that team

Not gonna happen as we can't trade Evan and Chicago doesnt need Evan

magic lose more games with porter and Dinwiddie over ag and Fournier

Yeah, for sure

What r the lottery numbers for next week?

4 34 38 41 45 50

pepe1991 · Post #284 » by **pepe1991** » Mon Mar 2, 2020 1:27 pm

Furinkazan wrote:
cedric76 wrote:
orlando_joe wrote:magic lose more games with porter and Dinwiddie over ag and Fournier

Yeah, for sure

What r the lottery numbers for next week?

4 34 38 41 45 50

idk

i'll try, would be crazy if it actually works :lol:

Magic_Johnny12 · Post #285 » by **Magic_Johnny12** » Mon Mar 2, 2020 7:40 pm

I really really like the idea of AG for Bogdanovic + their '20 FRP.

A little older than I would like, but he would fit like a glove alongside Isaac.

We pair our picks to hopefully move up a slot or two for a player we like in the lower lottery.

pepe1991 · Post #286 » by **pepe1991** » Thu Mar 5, 2020 10:13 am

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=vgyu6ph

Magic get Michael Porter Jr, Gary Harris
Nuggets get Gordon, Birch

2020 pick if they want to.

Magic can pretty much let Evan go as they have Harris in this scenario, and MPjr is risky but super talented player.

Now, allegedly everybody in his family had torn ACL at some point so it's major risk but hey, potential and talent are there

basketballRob · Post #287 » by **basketballRob** » Thu Mar 5, 2020 10:43 am

Right now if you subtract JI and AG from this team and we're the worst defensive team in the league. Adding MPJ and Harris would make us historically bad.

The best move we could make is take the huge salary Vuc gets and turn it into a player like Heild. Give them a first too.

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cedric76 · Post #288 » by **cedric76** » Thu Mar 5, 2020 11:20 am

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:I really really like the idea of AG for Bogdanovic + their '20 FRP.

A little older than I would like, but he would fit like a glove alongside Isaac.

We pair our picks to hopefully move up a slot or two for a player we like in the lower lottery.

They don't need ag and want to keep bogdan

No deal

cedric76 · Post #289 » by **cedric76** » Thu Mar 5, 2020 11:22 am

basketballRob wrote:Right now if you subtract JI and AG from this team and we're the worst defensive team in the league. Adding MPJ and Harris would make us historically bad.

The best move we could make is take the huge salary Vuc gets and turn it into a player like Heild. Give them a first too.

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Don't need a 1st sac would do Vuc for buddy in an heart beat

cedric76 · Post #290 » by **cedric76** » Thu Mar 5, 2020 11:23 am

pepe1991 wrote:http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=vgyu6ph

Magic get Michael Porter Jr, Gary Harris
Nuggets get Gordon, Birch

2020 pick if they want to.

Magic can pretty much let Evan go as they have Harris in this scenario, and MPjr is risky but super talented player.

Now, allegedly everybody in his family had torn ACL at some point so it's major risk but hey, potential and talent are there

I can't see denver doing this

cedric76 · Post #291 » by **cedric76** » Thu Mar 5, 2020 11:44 am

Ok here it is

Let mr know what u think

Sac:
Out hield
In vuc

Wash :

Out : Beal. + filler (Ish Smith. Bonga and SCHOFIELD)

In: Gordon + hield + orl 2020 1st unprotected + orl 2022 1st (protected 1 to 12)

Orl :
Out : Gordon + vuc+ orl 2020 1st unprotected + orl 2022 1st (protected 1 to 12)
In: Beal. + filler (Ish Smith. Bonga and SCHOFIELD)

Many here would be happy with buddy ball gone and acquiring a top sg

We can help Evan find the team he wants with a s&t and get back a forward veteran

Mle for a vet pf/c

Fultz. Mcw. Ish
Beal. Ross. SCHOFIELD. Iwundu
Chuma. Bonga. Vet
Ji. Aminu
Mo. Birch

zaymon · Post #292 » by **zaymon** » Thu Mar 5, 2020 12:00 pm

cedric76 wrote:Ok here it is

Let mr know what u think

Sac:
Out hield
In vuc

Wash :

Out : Beal. + filler (Ish Smith. Bonga and SCHOFIELD)

In: Gordon + hield + orl 2020 1st unprotected + orl 2022 1st (protected 1 to 12)

Orl :
Out : Gordon + vuc+ orl 2020 1st unprotected + orl 2022 1st (protected 1 to 12)
In: Beal. + filler (Ish Smith. Bonga and SCHOFIELD)

I like it for all sides. Great job with this one. I dont think Bamba is ready, but getting cheap replacement shouldnt be that hard and we have Birch. Until 2022 Fultz either fully recovers or goes to the bench. Sacramento turns disgruntled player into pick and roll/pop partner with Fox, Washington gets sg replacement who fits better with Wall and a defensive stopper they lack with Gordon and even not very terrible picks. Yeah smooth trade.

Fultz/Beal/Fournier/Isaac/Bamba

When we want to go big we have Okeke and Aminu to replace Fournier, we also can go smaller with Aminu or Isaac at center.

cedric76 · Post #293 » by **cedric76** » Thu Mar 5, 2020 12:21 pm

zaymon wrote:
cedric76 wrote:Ok here it is

Let mr know what u think

Sac:
Out hield
In vuc

Wash :

Out : Beal. + filler (Ish Smith. Bonga and SCHOFIELD)

In: Gordon + hield + orl 2020 1st unprotected + orl 2022 1st (protected 1 to 12)

Orl :
Out : Gordon + vuc+ orl 2020 1st unprotected + orl 2022 1st (protected 1 to 12)
In: Beal. + filler (Ish Smith. Bonga and SCHOFIELD)

I like it for all sides. Great job with this one. I dont think Bamba is ready, but getting cheap replacement shouldnt be that hard and we have Birch. Until 2022 Fultz either fully recovers or goes to the bench. Sacramento turns disgruntled player into pick and roll/pop partner with Fox, Washington gets sg replacement who fits better with Wall and a defensive stopper they lack with Gordon and even not very terrible picks. Yeah smooth trade.

Fultz/Beal/Fournier/Isaac/Bamba

When we want to go big we have Okeke and Aminu to replace Fournier, we also can go smaller with Aminu or Isaac at center.

Or if evan leaves and we can't agree on dign and trade, we could run some crazy lineup like

Fultz. Beal. Ross. Aminu. Ji

tiderulz · Post #294 » by **tiderulz** » Thu Mar 5, 2020 1:37 pm

zaymon wrote:
cedric76 wrote:Ok here it is

Let mr know what u think

Sac:
Out hield
In vuc

Wash :

Out : Beal. + filler (Ish Smith. Bonga and SCHOFIELD)

In: Gordon + hield + orl 2020 1st unprotected + orl 2022 1st (protected 1 to 12)

Orl :
Out : Gordon + vuc+ orl 2020 1st unprotected + orl 2022 1st (protected 1 to 12)
In: Beal. + filler (Ish Smith. Bonga and SCHOFIELD)

I like it for all sides. Great job with this one. I dont think Bamba is ready, but getting cheap replacement shouldnt be that hard and we have Birch. Until 2022 Fultz either fully recovers or goes to the bench. Sacramento turns disgruntled player into pick and roll/pop partner with Fox, Washington gets sg replacement who fits better with Wall and a defensive stopper they lack with Gordon and even not very terrible picks. Yeah smooth trade.

Fultz/Beal/Fournier/Isaac/Bamba

When we want to go big we have Okeke and Aminu to replace Fournier, we also can go smaller with Aminu or Isaac at center.

I cant see why Washington does this.

cedric76 · Post #295 » by **cedric76** » Thu Mar 5, 2020 2:00 pm

tiderulz wrote:
zaymon wrote:
cedric76 wrote:Ok here it is

Let mr know what u think

Sac:
Out hield
In vuc

Wash :

Out : Beal. + filler (Ish Smith. Bonga and SCHOFIELD)

In: Gordon + hield + orl 2020 1st unprotected + orl 2022 1st (protected 1 to 12)

Orl :
Out : Gordon + vuc+ orl 2020 1st unprotected + orl 2022 1st (protected 1 to 12)
In: Beal. + filler (Ish Smith. Bonga and SCHOFIELD)

I like it for all sides. Great job with this one. I dont think Bamba is ready, but getting cheap replacement shouldnt be that hard and we have Birch. Until 2022 Fultz either fully recovers or goes to the bench. Sacramento turns disgruntled player into pick and roll/pop partner with Fox, Washington gets sg replacement who fits better with Wall and a defensive stopper they lack with Gordon and even not very terrible picks. Yeah smooth trade.

Fultz/Beal/Fournier/Isaac/Bamba

When we want to go big we have Okeke and Aminu to replace Fournier, we also can go smaller with Aminu or Isaac at center.

I cant see why Washington does this.

2 1st + ag + hield for Beal is a very very good deal

It s not like Beal is getting them wins

Skybox · Post #296 » by **Skybox** » Thu Mar 5, 2020 2:20 pm

cedric76 wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
zaymon wrote:
I like it for all sides. Great job with this one. I dont think Bamba is ready, but getting cheap replacement shouldnt be that hard and we have Birch. Until 2022 Fultz either fully recovers or goes to the bench. Sacramento turns disgruntled player into pick and roll/pop partner with Fox, Washington gets sg replacement who fits better with Wall and a defensive stopper they lack with Gordon and even not very terrible picks. Yeah smooth trade.

Fultz/Beal/Fournier/Isaac/Bamba

When we want to go big we have Okeke and Aminu to replace Fournier, we also can go smaller with Aminu or Isaac at center.

I cant see why Washington does this.

2 1st + ag + hield for Beal is a very very good deal

It s not like Beal is getting them wins

I think it's in the ballpark, but you might also say Fournier resigned for a fair deal (well below Heild's $$) might sub right into the same deal. Then we keep Vuc (or at least still have the asset). Right now, especially I don't know that Heild's trade value is much higher than Evan's, particularly when factoring in money and attitude.

Magic_Johnny12 · Post #297 » by **Magic_Johnny12** » Thu Mar 5, 2020 4:44 pm

cedric76 wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:I really really like the idea of AG for Bogdanovic + their '20 FRP.

A little older than I would like, but he would fit like a glove alongside Isaac.

We pair our picks to hopefully move up a slot or two for a player we like in the lower lottery.

They don't need ag and want to keep bogdan

No deal

That's not how their fans feel, go take a peak at their board. They value AG more than most us Orlando fans.

cedric76 · Post #298 » by **cedric76** » Thu Mar 5, 2020 5:30 pm

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
cedric76 wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:I really really like the idea of AG for Bogdanovic + their '20 FRP.

A little older than I would like, but he would fit like a glove alongside Isaac.

We pair our picks to hopefully move up a slot or two for a player we like in the lower lottery.

They don't need ag and want to keep bogdan

No deal

That's not how their fans feel, go take a peak at their board. They value AG more than most us Orlando fans.

Divac made it clear that he wants bogdan to stay, he also is a big fan of Vuc.

This is why i think we could easily get hield for Vuc

Max Power · Post #299 » by **Max Power** » Fri Mar 6, 2020 8:42 pm

Trading all our assets for just one of Buddy Hield and Bradley Beal is just straight moronic, and that’s what most of you are proposing. Let’s give away first rounders too, but hey Beal will get us 25ppg and about 30 wins a year. You bring a guy like that to pair with Vucevic so you have two star level players. Now you wanna shop Gordon and other pieces sure, but to give Gordon and Vuc, and Multiple first round picks is mortgaging the future of this team. Beal alone takes us no further than we are now, especially next year when other teams ahead of us make their adjustments too. Issac, Bamba, Fultz, for all their potential, none have proved durable. Am I the only one seeing this? At least if you keep Vucevic with a Beal or a Hield you have two star level players to anchor until those guys are finished products. Let me be clear. I’m in no way saying I wouldn’t want those guys, but let’s not give up every chunk of proven talent we’ve got for them either.

basketballRob · Post #300 » by **basketballRob** » Fri Mar 6, 2020 8:49 pm

This article suggests the Suns give up Bridges or Oubre for AG. I like Bridges but AG's value might grow higher by the end of the year.

https://www-brightsideofthesun-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.brightsideofthesun.com/platform/amp/2020/3/6/21168248/suns-made-a-late-push-for-aaron-gordon-at-trade-deadline?amp_js_v=a3&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D#aoh=15835274465837&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.brightsideofthesun.com%2F2020%2F3%2F6%2F21168248%2Fsuns-made-a-late-push-for-aaron-gordon-at-trade-deadline

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