2025 NBA Draft Thread 2.0

[Idiosyncratic]

Out of the non green room invites I am locked in on Jase and Noah Penda as my two top options and I don't think that will change at this point.

I still think there's a good chance as many as 4-5 green room invites are available at 25.

Totally agree. Just trying to keep it simple with the most likely options. Though I think there is a better than 50% chance Jase and Penda don't make it to 25.

Sorber/Jase/Clayton/Penda/Riley/Traore/Wolf/Newell/Fleming/Nique would probably be the order of the top of my list with potential fallers considered.

Don't want McNeeley.

I think we will have a lot of quality options.

[The Effect]

Out of the non green room invites I am locked in on Jase and Noah Penda as my two top options and I don't think that will change at this point.

I still think there's a good chance as many as 4-5 green room invites are available at 25.

Totally agree. Just trying to keep it simple with the most likely options. Though I think there is a better than 50% chance Jase and Penda don't make it to 25.

Sorber/Jase/Clayton/Penda/Riley/Traore/Wolf/Newell/Fleming/Nique would probably be the order of the top of my list with potential fallers considered.

Don't want McNeeley.

I think we will have a lot of quality options.

I dont know that hes available at our pick, and i still think a big needs to be our pick if one of the Kalk\maxime are available, but i watching this guys game and would love to have him come in and be the development slash bench SG for us

[Idiosyncratic]

I dont know that hes available at our pick, and i still think a big needs to be our pick if one of the Kalk\maxime are available, but i watching this guys game and would love to have him come in and be the development slash bench SG for us

Yeah I like Nique, don't love him, but at 25 seems like a bargain. Reminds me of TDS but a little better at everything.

Wouldn't have a problem with Maxime or Kalk at 25. I just have the guys I listed ranked higher and don't see either of them playing over Goga. I have Raynaud, Kalk, Broome, Yang and Amari Williams all pretty similarly ranked as likely backups that I would prefer early 2nd. Now if they planned on trading Goga for a guard or shooting help then yeah I would probably prioritize big at 25 more. But as of now we have two cheap years of Goga so I'm really not feeling the need to pick a C over guys I personally have ranked higher, but still would be fine if they go that way.

[Knightro]

Latest mock from Jonathan Givony and Jeremy Woo of ESPN...

25. Jase Richardson, guard, Michigan State
46. Kam Jones, guard, Marquette
57. Kobe Sanders, wing, Nevada

Clayton goes 20th. Fleming goes 27th. Raynaud goes 28th.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45515479/2025-nba-mock-draft-59-picks-trade-talks-heat-30-teams

[basketballRob]

Latest mock from Jonathan Givony and Jeremy Woo of ESPN...

25. Jase Richardson, guard, Michigan State
46. Kam Jones, guard, Marquette
57. Kobe Sanders, wing, Nevada

Clayton goes 20th. Fleming goes 27th. Raynaud goes 28th.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45515479/2025-nba-mock-draft-59-picks-trade-talks-heat-30-teams

I was thinking that Clayton is a Pat Riley type player. I'd try to trade up and get him before Miami does with the 20th pick.

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[The Effect]

I dont know that hes available at our pick, and i still think a big needs to be our pick if one of the Kalk\maxime are available, but i watching this guys game and would love to have him come in and be the development slash bench SG for us

Yeah I like Nique, don't love him, but at 25 seems like a bargain. Reminds me of TDS but a little better at everything.

Wouldn't have a problem with Maxime or Kalk at 25. I just have the guys I listed ranked higher and don't see either of them playing over Goga. I have Raynaud, Kalk, Broome, Yang and Amari Williams all pretty similarly ranked as likely backups that I would prefer early 2nd. Now if they planned on trading Goga for a guard or shooting help then yeah I would probably prioritize big at 25 more. But as of now we have two cheap years of Goga so I'm really not feeling the need to pick a C over guys I personally have ranked higher, but still would be fine if they go that way.

I think as rookies Kalk and reynaud would be back ups to Goga, but long term i think they are both better than him and would start over him in the future. DOnt get me wrong, i like goga and going into this past season i wanted him to start over WC, but he really fell off the second half of this season, not sure what happened but he basically fell off a cliff and wasnt even played during the playoffs

I really believe that either Goga or WC will be traded by this time next year, no way are both here long term and if its WC thats traded, i think either of those guys would end up starting over goga and give us a solid 1-2 at center

[basketballRob]

Goga and the 25th pick for the Nets pick at 19. That would save us some money, and we could take Clayton at 19 and the best center with the 45th pick.

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[Idiosyncratic]

I dont know that hes available at our pick, and i still think a big needs to be our pick if one of the Kalk\maxime are available, but i watching this guys game and would love to have him come in and be the development slash bench SG for us

Yeah I like Nique, don't love him, but at 25 seems like a bargain. Reminds me of TDS but a little better at everything.

Wouldn't have a problem with Maxime or Kalk at 25. I just have the guys I listed ranked higher and don't see either of them playing over Goga. I have Raynaud, Kalk, Broome, Yang and Amari Williams all pretty similarly ranked as likely backups that I would prefer early 2nd. Now if they planned on trading Goga for a guard or shooting help then yeah I would probably prioritize big at 25 more. But as of now we have two cheap years of Goga so I'm really not feeling the need to pick a C over guys I personally have ranked higher, but still would be fine if they go that way.

I think as rookies Kalk and reynaud would be back ups to Goga, but long term i think they are both better than him and would start over him in the future. DOnt get me wrong, i like goga and going into this past season i wanted him to start over WC, but he really fell off the second half of this season, not sure what happened but he basically fell off a cliff and wasnt even played during the playoffs

I really believe that either Goga or WC will be traded by this time next year, no way are both here long term and if its WC thats traded, i think either of those guys would end up starting over goga and give us a solid 1-2 at center

Totally sound logic IMO. Plus both of those guys can hypothetically stretch the floor. I wouldn't be mad at it.

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I like Kalkbrenner at #25 + moving Carter for a 2/3
I like Kam Jones or Proctor at #46

[Skybox]

Latest mock from Jonathan Givony and Jeremy Woo of ESPN...

25. Jase Richardson, guard, Michigan State
46. Kam Jones, guard, Marquette
57. Kobe Sanders, wing, Nevada

Clayton goes 20th. Fleming goes 27th. Raynaud goes 28th.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45515479/2025-nba-mock-draft-59-picks-trade-talks-heat-30-teams

If Jase falls that far, it's a no-brainer...We shot our shot with Bane, but it would still look fantastic to have a Sexton-type next to AB in the backcourt. That, imo, is what Jase looks like...he measured shorter than hoped, but the film and the impressions are still the same -he didn't get shorter. Good decision-maker (if a bit selfish-that's okay for the role-for now), high BBIQ, excellent crafty finisher around the rim, 6'6 wingspan, elite FT shooter, makes space to get off his jumper...basically, Cole Anthony with far more upside (Cole had a bad freshman experience, but that was rationalized away- Jase was great)...I think his mentality and BBIQ > his height. He was discussed as a late lotto guy until he was measured and the world apparently collapsed. Young but mature on-court...did a lot of growing up in his single year at Michigan State and his usage and efficiency grew tremendously over the course of the season as he was handed the keys more and more...so, I think he has a chance to contribute as a rookie in such a suitable role - he'll have years to improve but he should be a role playing factor early. Clayton, on the other hand, is an old man, in rookie years, so it's surprising to see BasketballRob so in love, when he's usually dismissive of older draftees as having no upside and willing to project greatness on raw guys that can't buy a beer. Jase is an oddly efficient "gunner-type" for a freshman.

I'd really like Raynaud and Drake Powell, but I don't think you can pass on Jase at #25...I'd love to get one of BRK's late picks (26 & 27) for a player - while unloading some salary at the same time. I don't really buy into the "Howard's dad is the coach" stuff any more than "We've been TOLD to draft Michigan players by the Devos family", but maybe Jett does hold some interest as a "great prospect that ORL mismanaged" (might be true)...if we walked away with #27 for Jett and a couple of srps (or something) and walked out of the draft with Jase and Powell

We'd still have the MLE (as well as existing players like Goga or even WCJ) to try to upgrade the C spot.

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Also I don’t like Drake Powell he didn’t stand out on a pretty bad UNC team this season.

He has a good physical profile and he’s athletic that’s it. I’m tired of drafting that kind of player. Give me someone with actual skill.

[basketballRob]

Latest mock from Jonathan Givony and Jeremy Woo of ESPN...

25. Jase Richardson, guard, Michigan State
46. Kam Jones, guard, Marquette
57. Kobe Sanders, wing, Nevada

Clayton goes 20th. Fleming goes 27th. Raynaud goes 28th.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45515479/2025-nba-mock-draft-59-picks-trade-talks-heat-30-teams

If Jase falls that far, it's a no-brainer...We shot our shot with Bane, but it would still look fantastic to have a Sexton-type next to AB in the backcourt. That, imo, is what Jase looks like...he measured shorter than hoped, but the film and the impressions are still the same -he didn't get shorter. Good decision-maker (if a bit selfish-that's okay for the role-for now), high BBIQ, excellent crafty finisher around the rim, 6'6 wingspan, elite FT shooter, makes space to get off his jumper...basically, Cole Anthony with far more upside (Cole had a bad freshman experience, but that was rationalized away- Jase was great)...I think his mentality and BBIQ > his height. He was discussed as a late lotto guy until he was measured and the world apparently collapsed. Young but mature on-court...did a lot of growing up in his single year at Michigan State and his usage and efficiency grew tremendously over the course of the season as he was handed the keys more and more...so, I think he has a chance to contribute as a rookie in such a suitable role - he'll have years to improve but he should be a role playing factor early. Clayton, on the other hand, is an old man, in rookie years, so it's surprising to see BasketballRob so in love, when he's usually dismissive of older draftees as having no upside and willing to project greatness on raw guys that can't buy a beer. Jase is an oddly efficient "gunner-type" for a freshman.

I'd really like Raynaud and Drake Powell, but I don't think you can pass on Jase at #25...I'd love to get one of BRK's late picks (26 & 27) for a player - while unloading some salary at the same time. I don't really buy into the "Howard's dad is the coach" stuff any more than "We've been TOLD to draft Michigan players by the Devos family", but maybe Jett does hold some interest as a "great prospect that ORL mismanaged" (might be true)...if we walked away with #27 for Jett and a couple of srps (or something) and walked out of the draft with Jase and Powell

We'd still have the MLE (as well as existing players like Goga or even WCJ) to try to upgrade the C spot.

Jase showed efficiency on lower volume, 7.3 3-pt shots per 100 compared to 13.5 per 100 for Clayton. I'm afraid that when the players get bigger, Jase's volume will lower even more. I think we need high volume 3-pt shooters.

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[Nyce_1]

Goga and the 25th pick for the Nets pick at 19. That would save us some money, and we could take Clayton at 19 and the best center with the 45th pick.

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Dangerous trade-your-backup-C gamble to take as we're potentially "going for it" with Mo still recovering from ACL and Dell due to miss 20 games.

[basketballRob]

Goga and the 25th pick for the Nets pick at 19. That would save us some money, and we could take Clayton at 19 and the best center with the 45th pick.

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Dangerous trade-your-backup-C gamble to take as we're potentially "going for it" with Mo still recovering from ACL and Dell due to miss 20 games.

It is dangerous but would save us around $5m per year. Depending on what Moe renegotiated his deal for, that could give us the non taxpayer mle. We could always give Bamba a minimum deal for a 3rd center and draft one at 45. We could also give $7m to Lopez and $7m to Kennard on 1 and 1 deals.

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[Knightro]

Jase showed efficiency on lower volume, 7.3 3-pt shots per 100 compared to 13.5 per 100 for Clayton. I'm afraid that when the players get bigger, Jase's volume will lower even more. I think we need high volume 3-pt shooters.

You know I already refuted this like two weeks ago and you didn't listen.

Once Jase got moved into the starting lineup about halfway through the season, his volume skyrocketed up and he lost basically no efficiency whatsoever.

He was over 10 3PT/100 as a teenager starting a good team in one of the best conferences.

I have no issues or concerns about his volume. He was in a low volume role and thrived and then switched to a high volume role and also thrived.

His size is the far bigger concern. Guys that small don't usually defend particularly well even if they're high effort.

[tiderulz]

Latest mock from Jonathan Givony and Jeremy Woo of ESPN...

25. Jase Richardson, guard, Michigan State
46. Kam Jones, guard, Marquette
57. Kobe Sanders, wing, Nevada

Clayton goes 20th. Fleming goes 27th. Raynaud goes 28th.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45515479/2025-nba-mock-draft-59-picks-trade-talks-heat-30-teams

I earlier mentioned Kam as one of my 2nd rounders that could be of value for us.

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I have half a foot in and half a foot out on Jase Richardson.

I don’t like drafting guys that small unless they are transcendent scorers, playmakers, or defenders. He might be one of those things but it’s doubtful.

Hes basically a PG in the league because how tf is he defending anyone 6’4+? I’ve seen him listed anywhere from 6’ to 6’3 and I doubt he’s taller than 6’1.

I don’t know if he’s a lead guard, or the classic “secondary playmaker” but he’s too small to actually be a shooting guard type of guy. Just so many questions with him.

[basketballRob]

I have half a foot in and half a foot out on Jase Richardson.

I don’t like drafting guys that small unless they are transcendent scorers, playmakers, or defenders. He might be one of those things but it’s doubtful.

Hes basically a PG in the league because how tf is he defending anyone 6’4+? I’ve seen him listed anywhere from 6’ to 6’3 and I doubt he’s taller than 6’1.

I don’t know if he’s a lead guard, or the classic “secondary playmaker” but he’s too small to actually be a shooting guard type of guy. Just so many questions with him.

They measure them every season now. He's 6'0.5" w/o shoes.

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I have half a foot in and half a foot out on Jase Richardson.

I don’t like drafting guys that small unless they are transcendent scorers, playmakers, or defenders. He might be one of those things but it’s doubtful.

Hes basically a PG in the league because how tf is he defending anyone 6’4+? I’ve seen him listed anywhere from 6’ to 6’3 and I doubt he’s taller than 6’1.

I don’t know if he’s a lead guard, or the classic “secondary playmaker” but he’s too small to actually be a shooting guard type of guy. Just so many questions with him.

They measure them every season now. He's 6'0.5" w/o shoes.

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Well games are played in shoes so he’s like 6’1.

[yoyojw17]

I have half a foot in and half a foot out on Jase Richardson.

I don’t like drafting guys that small unless they are transcendent scorers, playmakers, or defenders. He might be one of those things but it’s doubtful.

Hes basically a PG in the league because how tf is he defending anyone 6’4+? I’ve seen him listed anywhere from 6’ to 6’3 and I doubt he’s taller than 6’1.

I don’t know if he’s a lead guard, or the classic “secondary playmaker” but he’s too small to actually be a shooting guard type of guy. Just so many questions with him.

They measure them every season now. He's 6'0.5" w/o shoes.

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Well games are played in shoes so he’s like 6’1.

Get some thick heels.... And hit 6'2" ... With a 6'6" wingspan.... Not that bad... As long as we continue with our defensive identity around him.