2025-2026: Around the League

[dsg2021]

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If we lose out on NAW because of ATL's assets, we can play back to a theme of "Defense for Offense" if we finally have to, and chase after "Per 36 minutes type of 3PM Bombers" like Malik Beasley, Jay Huff (a center), DiVincenzo (a PG), Duncan Robinson (expiring trade with rival), Sam Merrill, Royce O'Neal, Grayson Allen.
The three next interesting names in this final list of absolute flamethrower tier 3PT shooters and with semi-realistic chances of moving are Gary Trent Jr., Norman Powell, and Dalton Knecht.


If the "blackhole "3 pointers only" bombing pressure" doesn't need to be that sky-high, then the list opens up to so many other names from Desmond Bane to Caleb Houstan, Ty Jerome (a PG), Naz Reid, Kevin Huerter, Jett Howard, Austin Reaves, Seth Curry, Dillon Brooks, Luke Kennard, Corey Kispert, Jalen Smith ( a center), back to NAW, Malik Monk, and Caris LeVert.


So now you got to sift through all those names and find out which one of them is like at least not trash on defense, but also has other intangibles and 3 point prowess that excels against the others (like faster release, better playoffs/pressure shooting numbers, do you want flamethrower tier 3PT shooting or the tier below, etc.). As well as some age for next 3-4 seasons considerations and future contract for next 3-4 seasons considerations.

Maybe I am really greedy thinking I could do NAW for MLE and GTJ for BAE and Tyus Jones for Vet Min, so adjusting expectations, maybe it is time for ball park 7-14 mil per on GTJ and lock it down for 3 years and getting only 1-2 of those 3 names.

GTJ is in the flamethrower tier of 3PT shooting. Many past POR and TOR fans like him today still. He has some physical, defensive pressure with a penchant for hunting for steals. It is said he was actually a defensive positive instead of a neutral/negative in 1-2 seasons of his career so far. Good measurables and still only 26 yrs old. MIL seems to want him back for 5-10 per yr, or even 8-10 per yr, but GTJ and Bobby Portis don't want to be discounts anymore and GTJ may be hunting for as high as 15 mil in a perfect world. Maybe 12 mil per for 3-4 yrs is the Magic number (pun intended).
And this saves the full 5.1 mil BAE to use next on, say, Tyus Jones, another 3 PT specialist of a PG. Anthony Black will have his back on defense. Suggs will have GTJ's. But maybe ORL scouts think GTJ can become a consistent defensive neutral. And #25 plus two 2nd's trades up to #22 or #19 from BRK to nab Kalkbrenner or Raynaud. Jett, Goga traded for as much space as possible. Caleb too, if we have to. Mo Wagner is back and I think we can even start it at 12 mil to put some respect on his name.

Jalen Suggs / Tyus Jones / Ryan Nembhard (#46)
Desmond Bane / Gary Trent Jr. / Caleb Houstan
Franz Wagner / Anthony Black / Tristan Da Silva
Paolo Banchero / Jonathan Isaac / Mo Wagner
Wendell Carter Jr. / Mo Wagner / Ryan Kalkbrenner (#25/#22)

I want to jump into another rabbit hole and maybe look at other names for the 5.1 mil BAE to see if we can get someone else in there that is not as defensive negative as Tyus Jones. It might be another 2/3 like GTJ. And this might push Anthony Black into the backup 1 more than backup 2/3 one season too soon. But F it, we believe in AB.

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If we lose out on NAW because of ATL's assets, we can play back to a theme of "Defense for Offense" if we finally have to, and chase after "Per 36 minutes type of 3PM Bombers" like Malik Beasley, Jay Huff (a center), DiVincenzo (a PG), Duncan Robinson (expiring trade with rival), Sam Merrill, Royce O'Neal, Grayson Allen.
The three next interesting names in this final list of absolute flamethrower tier 3PT shooters and with semi-realistic chances of moving are Gary Trent Jr., Norman Powell, and Dalton Knecht.


If the "blackhole "3 pointers only" bombing pressure" doesn't need to be that sky-high, then the list opens up to so many other names from Desmond Bane to Caleb Houstan, Ty Jerome (a PG), Naz Reid, Kevin Huerter, Jett Howard, Austin Reaves, Seth Curry, Dillon Brooks, Luke Kennard, Corey Kispert, Jalen Smith ( a center), back to NAW, Malik Monk, and Caris LeVert.


So now you got to sift through all those names and find out which one of them is like at least not trash on defense, but also has other intangibles and 3 point prowess that excels against the others (like faster release, better playoffs/pressure shooting numbers, do you want flamethrower tier 3PT shooting or the tier below, etc.). As well as some age for next 3-4 seasons considerations and future contract for next 3-4 seasons considerations.

Maybe I am really greedy thinking I could do NAW for MLE and GTJ for BAE and Tyus Jones for Vet Min, so adjusting expectations, maybe it is time for ball park 7-14 mil per on GTJ and lock it down for 3 years and getting only 1-2 of those 3 names.

GTJ is in the flamethrower tier of 3PT shooting. Many past POR and TOR fans like him today still. He has some physical, defensive pressure with a penchant for hunting for steals. It is said he was actually a defensive positive instead of a neutral/negative in 1-2 seasons of his career so far. Good measurables and still only 26 yrs old. MIL seems to want him back for 5-10 per yr, or even 8-10 per yr, but GTJ and Bobby Portis don't want to be discounts anymore and GTJ may be hunting for as high as 15 mil in a perfect world. Maybe 12 mil per for 3-4 yrs is the Magic number (pun intended).
And this saves the full 5.1 mil BAE to use next on, say, Tyus Jones, another 3 PT specialist of a PG. Anthony Black will have his back on defense. Suggs will have Gary's. But maybe ORL scouts think he can become a defensive neutral. And #25 plus two 2nd's trades up to #22 or #19 from BRK to nab Kalkbrenner or Raynaud. Jett, Goga traded for as much space as possible. Caleb too, if we have to. Mo Wagner is back and I think we can even start it at 12 mil to put some respect on his name.

Jalen Suggs / Tyus Jones / Ryan Nembhard (#46)
Desmond Bane / Gary Trent Jr. / Caleb Houstan
Franz Wagner / Anthony Black / Tristan Da Silva
Paolo Banchero / Jonathan Isaac / Mo Wagner
Wendell Carter Jr. / Mo Wagner / Ryan Kalkbrenner (#25/#22)

I want to jump into another rabbit hole and maybe look ay other names for the 5.1 mil BAE to see if we can get someone else in there that is not as defensive negative as Tyus Jones. It might be another 2/3 like GTJ. And this might push Anthony Black into the backup 1 more than backup 2/3 one season too soon. But F it, we believe in AB.

Pretty sure we can only use the MLE or BAE not both. If we use the MLE we’re hard cap’d or something

[dsg2021]

Pretty sure we can only use the MLE or BAE not both. If we use the MLE we’re hard cap’d or something

I think we can use both if both keep us under the 1st Apron hard cap. I'm starting to finally look at the math carefully, and I see a pathway with Goga, Jett traded into as much Cap or TPE space as possible. Caleb potentially as well. Mo is already declined to pure space. So I think the order the Magic are forced into doing is executing the BAE very first and maybe you get that target for not the full 5.1 mil, the NT MLE second and maybe not at the full 14.1 mil either, then re-signing Mo Wagner with bird rights. And the very last is Vet Min hunting.

[Kent]

Pretty smooth what BOS is seemingly doing... Re-tooling around their core of Tatum, Brown, White, with all of their picks at the ready.

This could all change five minutes from now, but to those concerned about where we could be years from now, they're showing you can turn the tables, clean the books and keep your core together.

[Redick07]

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If we lose out on NAW because of ATL's assets, we can play back to a theme of "Defense for Offense" if we finally have to, and chase after "Per 36 minutes type of 3PM Bombers" like Malik Beasley, Jay Huff (a center), DiVincenzo (a PG), Duncan Robinson (expiring trade with rival), Sam Merrill, Royce O'Neal, Grayson Allen.
The three next interesting names in this final list of absolute flamethrower tier 3PT shooters and with semi-realistic chances of moving are Gary Trent Jr., Norman Powell, and Dalton Knecht.


If the "blackhole "3 pointers only" bombing pressure" doesn't need to be that sky-high, then the list opens up to so many other names from Desmond Bane to Caleb Houstan, Ty Jerome (a PG), Naz Reid, Kevin Huerter, Jett Howard, Austin Reaves, Seth Curry, Dillon Brooks, Luke Kennard, Corey Kispert, Jalen Smith ( a center), back to NAW, Malik Monk, and Caris LeVert.


So now you got to sift through all those names and find out which one of them is like at least not trash on defense, but also has other intangibles and 3 point prowess that excels against the others (like faster release, better playoffs/pressure shooting numbers, do you want flamethrower tier 3PT shooting or the tier below, etc.). As well as some age for next 3-4 seasons considerations and future contract for next 3-4 seasons considerations.

Maybe I am really greedy thinking I could do NAW for MLE and GTJ for BAE and Tyus Jones for Vet Min, so adjusting expectations, maybe it is time for ball park 7-14 mil per on GTJ and lock it down for 3 years and getting only 1-2 of those 3 names.

GTJ is in the flamethrower tier of 3PT shooting. Many past POR and TOR fans like him today still. He has some physical, defensive pressure with a penchant for hunting for steals. It is said he was actually a defensive positive instead of a neutral/negative in 1-2 seasons of his career so far. Good measurables and still only 26 yrs old. MIL seems to want him back for 5-10 per yr, or even 8-10 per yr, but GTJ and Bobby Portis don't want to be discounts anymore and GTJ may be hunting for as high as 15 mil in a perfect world. Maybe 12 mil per for 3-4 yrs is the Magic number (pun intended).
And this saves the full 5.1 mil BAE to use next on, say, Tyus Jones, another 3 PT specialist of a PG. Anthony Black will have his back on defense. Suggs will have Gary's. But maybe ORL scouts think he can become a defensive neutral. And #25 plus two 2nd's trades up to #22 or #19 from BRK to nab Kalkbrenner or Raynaud. Jett, Goga traded for as much space as possible. Caleb too, if we have to. Mo Wagner is back and I think we can even start it at 12 mil to put some respect on his name.

Jalen Suggs / Tyus Jones / Ryan Nembhard (#46)
Desmond Bane / Gary Trent Jr. / Caleb Houstan
Franz Wagner / Anthony Black / Tristan Da Silva
Paolo Banchero / Jonathan Isaac / Mo Wagner
Wendell Carter Jr. / Mo Wagner / Ryan Kalkbrenner (#25/#22)

I want to jump into another rabbit hole and maybe look ay other names for the 5.1 mil BAE to see if we can get someone else in there that is not as defensive negative as Tyus Jones. It might be another 2/3 like GTJ. And this might push Anthony Black into the backup 1 more than backup 2/3 one season too soon. But F it, we believe in AB.

Pretty sure we can only use the MLE or BAE not both. If we use the MLE we’re hard cap’d or something

Grayson Allen might be a good fit. We can trade Goga and Jett for him. For Suns, they save 3m and obtain a big guy. For Magic, we get a 3D player who can be a perfect fit for Black from the bench.
Using #25 to pick Maxime Raynaud. MLE to sign a backup PF.

WCJ / MoW / Raynaud
Paolo / MLE / #46
Franz / TDS / Houstan
Bane / Allen
Suggs / Black

[Knightro]

Pretty sure we can only use the MLE or BAE not both. If we use the MLE we’re hard cap’d or something

This is correct.

You can't use the MLE and BAE in the same offseason. EDIT: you can, but practically speaking it’s tough given where the Magic are financially.

The Magic will be hard capped at the first apron ($195.9M) if they 1. get access to their full MLE ($14.1) and use more than the taxpayer MLE ($5.685M) of it, 2. use their BAE ($5.135M) or 3. execute any sign-and-trade.

The Magic will be hard capped at the second apron ($207.8M) if they use their taxpayer MLE ($5.685M).

The Magic are currently at $193.3M - when you include Bane's unlikely to be earned incentives (which count against the aprons, but not the luxury tax), they are $1.325M *under* the first apron and $13.02M *under* the second apron.

If the Magic decline Moe Wagner's $11M team option, they will dip from $193.3M to $182.3M. That will put them $16.49M *below* the luxury tax and will give them access to the full $14.1M MLE.

However, as stated above, if the Magic do use the full $14.1M MLE, that will trigger hard cap at the first apron... and they would only be $12.325 below the first apron.

So the only way the Magic can access *and* use the full MLE would be to decline Moe *and* dump another contract (Jett, Isaac, Goga) or save money in a trade elsewhere.

[dsg2021]

Pretty smooth what BOS is seemingly doing... Re-tooling around their core of Tatum, Brown, White, with all of their picks at the ready.

This could all change five minutes from now, but to those concerned about where we could be years from now, they're showing you can turn the tables, clean the books and keep your core together.

Definitely

[RookieStar]

So.. BOS is tanking..

Its really CLE , NYK , ORL fighting for homecourt

The rest is a free for all...

[Bensational]

Pretty smooth what BOS is seemingly doing... Re-tooling around their core of Tatum, Brown, White, with all of their picks at the ready.

This could all change five minutes from now, but to those concerned about where we could be years from now, they're showing you can turn the tables, clean the books and keep your core together.

Man, I miss the headline tracker at the top of the forums, I used to get so much news that way. Didn’t even see the news they’d traded JRue for Simons. It’s all going down pre draft this year!

[pepe1991]

I would guess the Nets are exploring multiple trade ups?

Like 8 and 19 and a player for 3 and then 22, 26 and 27 for like 10?

Don't give Suns any more free dumb ideas, they will be sucking for 10 years instead of 7

[dsg2021]

Pretty sure we can only use the MLE or BAE not both. If we use the MLE we’re hard cap’d or something

This is correct.

You can't use the MLE and BAE in the same offseason.

The Magic will be hard capped at the first apron ($195.9M) if they 1. get access to their full MLE ($14.1) and use more than the taxpayer MLE ($5.685M) of it, 2. use their BAE ($5.135M) or 3. execute any sign-and-trade.

The Magic will be hard capped at the second apron ($207.8M) if they use their taxpayer MLE ($5.685M).

The Magic are currently at $193.3M - when you include Bane's unlikely to be earned incentives (which count against the aprons, but not the luxury tax), they are $1.325M *under* the first apron and $13.02M *under* the second apron.

If the Magic decline Moe Wagner's $11M team option, they will dip from $193.3M to $182.3M. That will put them $16.49M *below* the luxury tax and will give them access to the full $14.1M MLE.

However, as stated above, if the Magic do use the full $14.1M MLE, that will trigger hard cap at the first apron... and they would only be $12.325 below the first apron.

So the only way the Magic can access *and* use the full MLE would be to decline Moe *and* dump another contract (Jett, Isaac, Goga) or save money in a trade elsewhere.

I'd trust you more, but one google search says you can use the NT-MLE and BAE in same summer if you stay under the 1st Apron that is now hard capped.

But if we have no BAE and only the 14 mil MLE for whatever reason, and no interesting trades out there, then I am probably back on the train for any PG or 2/3 in the draft at #25 just as much as any Big. We flip #25 and two 2nd's for BRK's #19 or #22 to open up the pool of prospects even more.

[pepe1991]

Oh no, no more Guyeye in starting 5 for Hawks

[pepe1991]

Nets have once in a lifetime opportunity to draft and start all 5 first round picks. That will probably unlock them something on nba 2 K


No, but for real, they are in pole position to trade up in draft. Like, trading for 3# pick and drafting VJ Edgecombe would put them on right path.

[Knightro]

I'd trust you more, but one google search says you can use the NT-MLE and BAE in same summer if you stay under the 1st Apron that is now hard capped.

But if we have no BAE and only the 14 mil MLE for whatever reason, and no interesting trades out there, then I am probably back on the train for any PG or 2/3 in the draft at #25 just as much as any Big. We flip #25 and two 2nd's for BRK's #19 or #22 to open up the pool of prospects even more.

Upon further research, you are correct and I am wrong.

It is legal in the CBA to use the non taxpayer MLE and the BAE in the same year.

From a practical standpoint though, it would be difficult to actually use both - specifically for the Magic to use both - because using either exception triggers the hard cap at the first apron.

They would have to get $19.235M under the first apron to use both exceptions in full. They’re approximately $1.3M under it now. So they’d have to shed $17.9M in salary.

Declining Moe is only $11M of that $17.9M needed. They’d be 6.9M short.

So in order to be able to spend the full $14.1M MLE *and* the full $5.135 BAE, the Magic would have to get really creative because punting Jett ($5.5M) for nothing wouldn’t get them quite far enough under alone.

Maybe they could decline Caleb or move off of the 25th pick… that would likely require them making both 2nd round picks and using them to cheaply fill out the very bottom of the roster too.

But really picking up the BAE only really seems important if we think Moe would take it anyway, right?

[eyriq]

Hawks acquiring Porzingis is a really savvy move and vaults them into top four territory. True or false?

[pepe1991]

According to Serbian media, Jokić ain't staying.

[drsd]

Don't give Suns any more free dumb ideas, they will be sucking for 10 years instead of 7

The Washington General, oops, I mean Wizards, are really trying to hard to get worse. Orlando has 4-wins penned in for the next years!

THe Magic really need to look at 12+ wins each year in the South East division in each of the next 4 years.

[Knightro]

Hawks acquiring Porzingis is a really savvy move and vaults them into top four territory. True or false?

Porzingis has played 65 games once in the last 7 years.

Good player, but one of the least reliable when it comes to injuries.

[RookieStar]

Hawks acquiring Porzingis is a really savvy move and vaults them into top four territory. True or false?

Porzingis has played 65 games once in the last 7 years.

Good player, but one of the least reliable when it comes to injuries.

Plus... doesnt he have a mystery illness that sidelined him in the POs?

[RookieStar]

According to Serbian media, Jokić ain't staying.

Huh? He is leavig DEN?