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ucfmay2000 wrote:Rainwater wrote:KillMonger wrote:Horrible.... Nasty..... Atrocious..... Nefarious..... Hot dog water.... Cess pool like.... Just bad
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With Paolo and Franz out, Suggs is trying his best to be a player he is not. You really can’t blame him.
We don’t blame him, just simple that he is suck and he is not the third option, he is not a point either. He is just a suck 3 and D.
VFX wrote:byeganyo wrote:SOUL wrote:
this statement is completely fair... if you completely ignore whatever has happened during this season with injuries to two guys who will take around 30-45 shots a game lol
Even with them, he was having a bellow average shooting season on a lower usage.
The thing is he is going to get paid more than 30m for being 10 ppg guy. He offers a lot of things, so it's not a disaster, but it's not a great outing too.
In the five game sample size with both of them?
You know he was forced into a different position for the last 12 games + playoffs last year right? This after being considered a most improved player candidate for like 90% of the year.
The FO is just stupid.
VFX wrote:MasterGMer wrote:Jalen was 4 for 19 and AB was 1 for 7. I honestly do not care if we have Franz and Paolo or not. We not gonna win if our guards put up the performance like this. Again, it is our shooting and again it is our offense. What shall we do? That is probably why Cory Joseph got in
Suggs should NOT be taking 19 shots. That’s the problem.
Literally nobody else on this roster is capable of creating offense if their last name isn’t Banchero or Wagner.
Everyone else is expendable for that reason apart from maybe Goga.
byeganyo wrote:VFX wrote:byeganyo wrote:
Even with them, he was having a bellow average shooting season on a lower usage.
The thing is he is going to get paid more than 30m for being 10 ppg guy. He offers a lot of things, so it's not a disaster, but it's not a great outing too.
In the five game sample size with both of them?
You know he was forced into a different position for the last 12 games + playoffs last year right? This after being considered a most improved player candidate for like 90% of the year.
The FO is just stupid.
If they see what everyone else is seeing and they dont make a move in the next 12 months, they are stupid indeed.
And yeah, Suggs should not have been a pg, so it's not like he asked for this burden, but he also should not be shooting that many long 3pt if he is not making them.
MasterGMer wrote:VFX wrote:MasterGMer wrote:Jalen was 4 for 19 and AB was 1 for 7. I honestly do not care if we have Franz and Paolo or not. We not gonna win if our guards put up the performance like this. Again, it is our shooting and again it is our offense. What shall we do? That is probably why Cory Joseph got in
Suggs should NOT be taking 19 shots. That’s the problem.
Literally nobody else on this roster is capable of creating offense if their last name isn’t Banchero or Wagner.
Everyone else is expendable for that reason apart from maybe Goga.
Expendable? I thought Moe got us 32 points tonight
MasterGMer wrote:RookieStar wrote:Why people here mad at Suggs when he cant carry a team alone?
We all know that and we dont expect him to be. We just want him to have his lastbseasons 3pt % while playibg amazingbdefense.
Sadly, without Paolo and Franz, we are forcing him to be someone he is not
Actually, that is what I expected for Suggs to be, to take over the NO.1 option. In his first game without Franz, i think he got us 32 points, right?
I just wish he can put it together. Right now, he is rushed in doing things and his offense was not organized and poised. He needs to take his time and find his efficiency.
I think it is a maturity problem more than skills or talent. Suggs has that talent. He is just not used to it. It is on the coaching staff to unleash his potential.
However, I do not think you can do that in such a period span. But I hope Jalen improves next game. That is all I worry about
thelead wrote:Even a guy like McBride off our bench would be huge
SOUL wrote:The real elephant in the room is injuries
RookieStar wrote:MasterGMer wrote:RookieStar wrote:Why people here mad at Suggs when he cant carry a team alone?
We all know that and we dont expect him to be. We just want him to have his lastbseasons 3pt % while playibg amazingbdefense.
Sadly, without Paolo and Franz, we are forcing him to be someone he is not
Actually, that is what I expected for Suggs to be, to take over the NO.1 option. In his first game without Franz, i think he got us 32 points, right?
I just wish he can put it together. Right now, he is rushed in doing things and his offense was not organized and poised. He needs to take his time and find his efficiency.
I think it is a maturity problem more than skills or talent. Suggs has that talent. He is just not used to it. It is on the coaching staff to unleash his potential.
However, I do not think you can do that in such a period span. But I hope Jalen improves next game. That is all I worry about
When we drafted him, i too thought he was gonna be like Cade, a #1 option. Still fresh from his GON campaign.
But we all know that isnt his strength. His 1st 2 years looked like he better be practicing his chinese until he showed us what he is capable om his 3rd years.
A lot of us accepted that.
He has talent to score... but not every night. Only few guys in the league are capable of that. I mean Moe and Tristan showed they can score, they just cant do that every game as well.
Rainwater wrote:byeganyo wrote:VFX wrote:
In the five game sample size with both of them?
You know he was forced into a different position for the last 12 games + playoffs last year right? This after being considered a most improved player candidate for like 90% of the year.
The FO is just stupid.
If they see what everyone else is seeing and they dont make a move in the next 12 months, they are stupid indeed.
And yeah, Suggs should not have been a pg, so it's not like he asked for this burden, but he also should not be shooting that many long 3pt if he is not making them.
Who else is going to take shoots though? And I think black is the future PG. He is going to have his ups and downs but I think the Magic are ok with that since they aren’t contending anytime soon.
Rainwater wrote:RookieStar wrote:MasterGMer wrote:
Actually, that is what I expected for Suggs to be, to take over the NO.1 option. In his first game without Franz, i think he got us 32 points, right?
I just wish he can put it together. Right now, he is rushed in doing things and his offense was not organized and poised. He needs to take his time and find his efficiency.
I think it is a maturity problem more than skills or talent. Suggs has that talent. He is just not used to it. It is on the coaching staff to unleash his potential.
However, I do not think you can do that in such a period span. But I hope Jalen improves next game. That is all I worry about
When we drafted him, i too thought he was gonna be like Cade, a #1 option. Still fresh from his GON campaign.
But we all know that isnt his strength. His 1st 2 years looked like he better be practicing his chinese until he showed us what he is capable om his 3rd years.
A lot of us accepted that.
He has talent to score... but not every night. Only few guys in the league are capable of that. I mean Moe and Tristan showed they can score, they just cant do that every game as well.
If people really think that Suggs will suddenly turn into Paolo or Franz they will be disappointed. He can go off once in a while but that is just not him. I feel like people have forgotten he has been struggling since paolo has gone out.
Fortune Teller wrote:Is it too early to call Jett a bust? That was such a weird pick and I haven't seen anything to help it make sense.
For me? it's too early, this point in an nba player's career you should only expect flashes... How many years did we wait for AG? Normally players take years, paolo and Franz coming in that good that early isn't normalFortune Teller wrote:Is it too early to call Jett a bust? That was such a weird pick and I haven't seen anything to help it make sense.
