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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#301 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Tue Jun 17, 2025 12:49 pm

Airgordon00 wrote:A trade to get off Dell’s long term contract and get a bench sniper.
Magic get Grayson Allen

Suns get WCJ and Jett.

Suns get a starting center and take a flyer on a young guy who needs a new start.

Magic get one of the best shooters in the league who has a career 3pt % of 40%. The last 2 years he has been 43 and 46%. So an absolute weapon of left open.

Bane/Black
Suggs/Allen
Franz/TDS
Paolo/Isaac
Goga/Moe
Would be a really solid 10 man rotation with lots of lineup flexibility. You could use the 25th pick on one of the centers in the draft to provide depth just in case Moe isn’t ready for the start of the regular season. I really believe Black is going to take a big leap this year and prove to be a reliable 6th man.


I’m a bit indifferent.

It’s a fair trade, but I wouldn’t be so eager in moving Wendell until I see him with the new core.

I’m fully expecting to see everyone’s best play this year, this is the first year Weltman publicly announced that we’re actively competing for a championship. Those words mean a lot more than people think and should have some effect on the players.

I say you evaluate next summer when his new contract kicks in. Hopefully he has a healthy season and can bring back some better value.
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#302 » by Skybox » Tue Jun 17, 2025 12:57 pm

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
Airgordon00 wrote:A trade to get off Dell’s long term contract and get a bench sniper.
Magic get Grayson Allen

Suns get WCJ and Jett.

Suns get a starting center and take a flyer on a young guy who needs a new start.

Magic get one of the best shooters in the league who has a career 3pt % of 40%. The last 2 years he has been 43 and 46%. So an absolute weapon of left open.

Bane/Black
Suggs/Allen
Franz/TDS
Paolo/Isaac
Goga/Moe
Would be a really solid 10 man rotation with lots of lineup flexibility. You could use the 25th pick on one of the centers in the draft to provide depth just in case Moe isn’t ready for the start of the regular season. I really believe Black is going to take a big leap this year and prove to be a reliable 6th man.


I’m a bit indifferent.

It’s a fair trade, but I wouldn’t be so eager in moving Wendell until I see him with the new core.

I’m fully expecting to see everyone’s best play this year, this is the first year Weltman publicly announced that we’re actively competing for a championship. Those words mean a lot more than people think and should have some effect on the players.

I say you evaluate next summer when his new contract kicks in. Hopefully he has a healthy season and can bring back some better value.


I have no problem looking at WCJ trades, primarily for financial reasons...but we need a starting C and I don't think it's Goga. I definitely don't want to invest that heavily in Grayson Allen as a backup...

How about
ORL sends: Goga & a srp
LAL sends: Knecht & Jaxson Hayes...we keep WCJ for now and let Hayes bring a wild, different look off the bench. Knecht could be a much cheaper version of Allen (I'm not saying either is a world-beater or big piece, just specific role players for peanuts.
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#303 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Tue Jun 17, 2025 1:03 pm

Skybox wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
Airgordon00 wrote:A trade to get off Dell’s long term contract and get a bench sniper.
Magic get Grayson Allen

Suns get WCJ and Jett.

Suns get a starting center and take a flyer on a young guy who needs a new start.

Magic get one of the best shooters in the league who has a career 3pt % of 40%. The last 2 years he has been 43 and 46%. So an absolute weapon of left open.

Bane/Black
Suggs/Allen
Franz/TDS
Paolo/Isaac
Goga/Moe
Would be a really solid 10 man rotation with lots of lineup flexibility. You could use the 25th pick on one of the centers in the draft to provide depth just in case Moe isn’t ready for the start of the regular season. I really believe Black is going to take a big leap this year and prove to be a reliable 6th man.


I’m a bit indifferent.

It’s a fair trade, but I wouldn’t be so eager in moving Wendell until I see him with the new core.

I’m fully expecting to see everyone’s best play this year, this is the first year Weltman publicly announced that we’re actively competing for a championship. Those words mean a lot more than people think and should have some effect on the players.

I say you evaluate next summer when his new contract kicks in. Hopefully he has a healthy season and can bring back some better value.


I have no problem looking at WCJ trades, primarily for financial reasons...but we need a starting C and I don't think it's Goga. I definitely don't want to invest that heavily in Grayson Allen as a backup...

How about
ORL sends: Goga & a srp
LAL sends: Knecht & Jaxson Hayes...we keep WCJ for now and let Hayes bring a wild, different look off the bench. Knecht could be a much cheaper version of Allen (I'm not saying either is a world-beater or big piece, just specific role players for peanuts.


Rather just keep Goga and we have our own poor man’s version of Knecht in Howard that still needs developing if the vision is to keep him.

I like the Goga/Howard for Jalen Smith a lot better.

Orlando gets an upgrade, sheds salary and opens a roster spot.
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#304 » by Skybox » Tue Jun 17, 2025 1:05 pm

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
Skybox wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
I’m a bit indifferent.

It’s a fair trade, but I wouldn’t be so eager in moving Wendell until I see him with the new core.

I’m fully expecting to see everyone’s best play this year, this is the first year Weltman publicly announced that we’re actively competing for a championship. Those words mean a lot more than people think and should have some effect on the players.

I say you evaluate next summer when his new contract kicks in. Hopefully he has a healthy season and can bring back some better value.


I have no problem looking at WCJ trades, primarily for financial reasons...but we need a starting C and I don't think it's Goga. I definitely don't want to invest that heavily in Grayson Allen as a backup...

How about
ORL sends: Goga & a srp
LAL sends: Knecht & Jaxson Hayes...we keep WCJ for now and let Hayes bring a wild, different look off the bench. Knecht could be a much cheaper version of Allen (I'm not saying either is a world-beater or big piece, just specific role players for peanuts.


Rather just keep Goga and we have our own poor man’s version of Knecht in Howard that still needs developing if the vision is to keep him.

I like the Goga/Howard for Jalen Smith a lot better.

Orlando gets an upgrade, sheds salary and opens a roster spot.


I like that one, but why does CHI?
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#305 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Tue Jun 17, 2025 1:08 pm

Skybox wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
Skybox wrote:
I have no problem looking at WCJ trades, primarily for financial reasons...but we need a starting C and I don't think it's Goga. I definitely don't want to invest that heavily in Grayson Allen as a backup...

How about
ORL sends: Goga & a srp
LAL sends: Knecht & Jaxson Hayes...we keep WCJ for now and let Hayes bring a wild, different look off the bench. Knecht could be a much cheaper version of Allen (I'm not saying either is a world-beater or big piece, just specific role players for peanuts.


Rather just keep Goga and we have our own poor man’s version of Knecht in Howard that still needs developing if the vision is to keep him.

I like the Goga/Howard for Jalen Smith a lot better.

Orlando gets an upgrade, sheds salary and opens a roster spot.


I like that one, but why does CHI?


Apparently some like Howard and they need wing/shooting help. Orlando could sweeten it a little with the highly coveted #57 8-)
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#306 » by Airgordon00 » Tue Jun 17, 2025 1:12 pm

Another idea if we want to improve the bench is:

Magic get Malik Monk

Kings get JI, Jett and Rights to 25th pick.

Kings get a stud defender to put next Sabonis, take a flyer on a young guy in Howard and a late first.

Magic get another shot creator and an insurance policy in case bane or Suggs get injured.

Bane/Black
Suggs/Monk
Franz/TDS/Houstan
Paolo/Moe
WCJ/ Goga

Then fill out the rest of the roster with ring chasing vets.
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Post#307 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Tue Jun 17, 2025 1:20 pm

Airgordon00 wrote:Another idea if we want to improve the bench is:

Magic get Malik Monk

Kings get JI, Jett and Rights to 25th pick.

Kings get a stud defender to put next Sabonis, take a flyer on a young guy in Howard and a late first.

Magic get another shot creator and an insurance policy in case bane or Suggs get injured.

Bane/Black
Suggs/Monk
Franz/TDS/Houstan
Paolo/Moe
WCJ/ Goga

Then fill out the rest of the roster with ring chasing vets.


I do think backup PG is as important as the Bane acquisition just because I don’t trust Suggs to be healthy consistently.

Monk would give me a lot of relief in that regard, but if this is all it took to get Monk he probably would be in a Magic jersey already.

This package is barely a positive one tbh.
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Post#308 » by Airgordon00 » Tue Jun 17, 2025 1:33 pm

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
Airgordon00 wrote:Another idea if we want to improve the bench is:

Magic get Malik Monk

Kings get JI, Jett and Rights to 25th pick.

Kings get a stud defender to put next Sabonis, take a flyer on a young guy in Howard and a late first.

Magic get another shot creator and an insurance policy in case bane or Suggs get injured.

Bane/Black
Suggs/Monk
Franz/TDS/Houstan
Paolo/Moe
WCJ/ Goga

Then fill out the rest of the roster with ring chasing vets.


I do think backup PG is as important as the Bane acquisition just because I don’t trust Suggs to be healthy consistently.

Monk would give me a lot of relief in that regard, but if this is all it took to get Monk he probably would be in a Magic jersey already.

This package is barely a positive one tbh.

Yeah that’s a fair point. Unless they were willing to take some more seconds to make it work or send them Wendell and take valanciunas back which I would probably be willing to do.
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Post#309 » by Skybox » Tue Jun 17, 2025 1:36 pm

Vet min guys I'd like to talk with...

Jingles (or have team doc talk with)...I don't think ANY Magic player in recent memory had a bigger impact on his bench bros quality of play

Dinwiddie...he's been there, been the star of teams, now he's a role player, but he's big, defends, scores, occasionally gets hot from 3, intelligent guy

Jax Hayes...he's not really good, but his motor and athleticism serves a purpose, especially if we can't keep Moe. He won't replace Moe's scoring, but he might do other things if we find someone to score from the backcourt.

Marvin Bagley...don't know if he's ready for a vet min, but he can eat minutes, put up points and rebounds. Limited, but that's what we're talking about

Brandon Boston, Amir Coffey, Bones Hyland...budget guys that can erupt for big scoring nights here and there, poor man's Oubre

Tre Jones...poor man's Tyus Jones...not sure he's ready to accept a vet min

Vas Micic...came into the NBA with a rep as a creative passer, high BBIQ guy...hasn't delivered, maybe bets on himself in a good setting

Mason Plumlee, Mo Bamba...3rd string guys paid like 3rd string guys if we trade Goga...Plumlee is tough and can move the ball well, Bamba shoots 3's
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Post#310 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Tue Jun 17, 2025 2:19 pm

Skybox wrote:Vet min guys I'd like to talk with...

Jingles (or have team doc talk with)...I don't think ANY Magic player in recent memory had a bigger impact on his bench bros quality of play

Dinwiddie...he's been there, been the star of teams, now he's a role player, but he's big, defends, scores, occasionally gets hot from 3, intelligent guy

Jax Hayes...he's not really good, but his motor and athleticism serves a purpose, especially if we can't keep Moe. He won't replace Moe's scoring, but he might do other things if we find someone to score from the backcourt.

Marvin Bagley...don't know if he's ready for a vet min, but he can eat minutes, put up points and rebounds. Limited, but that's what we're talking about

Brandon Boston, Amir Coffey, Bones Hyland...budget guys that can erupt for big scoring nights here and there, poor man's Oubre

Tre Jones...poor man's Tyus Jones...not sure he's ready to accept a vet min

Vas Micic...came into the NBA with a rep as a creative passer, high BBIQ guy...hasn't delivered, maybe bets on himself in a good setting

Mason Plumlee, Mo Bamba...3rd string guys paid like 3rd string guys if we trade Goga...Plumlee is tough and can move the ball well, Bamba shoots 3's


I actually like Tre, I might actually prefer him to Tyus tbh. Three years younger, light years better as a defender.

Tyus is better offensively, but I prefer the more balanced player if I’m able to choose but agree don’t see him taking a vet. min.

I like Dinwiddie and Micic, but Micic is reportedly signing with a euro team.

I rather give #57 a chance as a third string center than revisiting Bamba
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Post#311 » by MagicTownBaller » Tue Jun 17, 2025 3:21 pm

Read on Twitter


Anyone see this?

I don't know who this guy is but he's followed by Bobby Marks and Andrew Cherico.
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Post#312 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Tue Jun 17, 2025 3:36 pm

MagicTownBaller wrote:
Read on Twitter


Anyone see this?

I don't know who this guy is but he's followed by Bobby Marks and Andrew Cherico.

we had to decline Gary & Corey Joseph to make the bane trade work.. I'd imagine Moe and Houstan get declined to open up the MLE
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Post#313 » by basketballRob » Tue Jun 17, 2025 4:10 pm

That's news about Moe and Caleb. I guess we're all in to use the MLE and BAE

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Post#314 » by RichCollab » Tue Jun 17, 2025 4:15 pm

basketballRob wrote:That's news about Moe and Caleb. I guess we're all in to use the MLE and BAE

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Seems questionable still.
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Post#315 » by Knightro » Tue Jun 17, 2025 4:21 pm

They would get the MLE and BAE without declining Houstan.

I would be a bit surprised if they didn't bring Caleb back at $2.18M. That's less than pretty much any veteran minimum signing they could make and he shot .400% from 3PT on high volume 10.1 3PTA/100.
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Post#316 » by basketballRob » Tue Jun 17, 2025 4:36 pm

Duncan Robinson is only partially guaranteed this year. If he's in the Durant deal, the Suns likely let him go to save money.

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Post#317 » by orlando_joe » Tue Jun 17, 2025 4:44 pm

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
Airgordon00 wrote:Another idea if we want to improve the bench is:

Magic get Malik Monk

Kings get JI, Jett and Rights to 25th pick.

Kings get a stud defender to put next Sabonis, take a flyer on a young guy in Howard and a late first.

Magic get another shot creator and an insurance policy in case bane or Suggs get injured.

Bane/Black
Suggs/Monk
Franz/TDS/Houstan
Paolo/Moe
WCJ/ Goga

Then fill out the rest of the roster with ring chasing vets.


I do think backup PG is as important as the Bane acquisition just because I don’t trust Suggs to be healthy consistently.

Monk would give me a lot of relief in that regard, but if this is all it took to get Monk he probably would be in a Magic jersey already.

This package is barely a positive one tbh.

i just really do not see magic taking on 20 mill 4 yr deal ..think looking for 1 plus team option 3-5 mill guys ..and do not see them moving wcj or ji this summer at
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Post#318 » by Knightro » Tue Jun 17, 2025 5:07 pm

It's worth noting... the MLE does not have to be a free agent signing.

It can now also be used like a TPE and you can trade for someone making $14.1M or less and just absorb them without sending any salary back.

Guys who could potentially be of interest for the Magic that would fit into the MLE...

Josh Green (13.66M)
Grant Williams (13.64M)
Bobby Portis (13.44M) - if he opts in
Robert Williams III (13.28M)
Donte DiVincenzo (11.99M)
Moses Moody (11.57M)
Jarred Vanderbilt (11.57M)
Gabe Vincent (11.50M)
Isaac Okoro (11.00M)
Mike Conley Jr. (10.77M)
Royce O'Neale (10.12M)
Sam Hauser (10.04M)
Lonzo Ball (10.00M)
Kyle Anderson (9.21M)
Jalen Smith (9.00M)
Naji Marshall (9.00M)

Not saying any of these guys are necessarily on the block, but if their respective teams are looking to shed some salary for whatever reason...
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Post#319 » by bigdogdylan5 » Tue Jun 17, 2025 5:12 pm

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
Airgordon00 wrote:A trade to get off Dell’s long term contract and get a bench sniper.
Magic get Grayson Allen

Suns get WCJ and Jett.

Suns get a starting center and take a flyer on a young guy who needs a new start.

Magic get one of the best shooters in the league who has a career 3pt % of 40%. The last 2 years he has been 43 and 46%. So an absolute weapon of left open.

Bane/Black
Suggs/Allen
Franz/TDS
Paolo/Isaac
Goga/Moe
Would be a really solid 10 man rotation with lots of lineup flexibility. You could use the 25th pick on one of the centers in the draft to provide depth just in case Moe isn’t ready for the start of the regular season. I really believe Black is going to take a big leap this year and prove to be a reliable 6th man.


I’m a bit indifferent.

It’s a fair trade, but I wouldn’t be so eager in moving Wendell until I see him with the new core.

I’m fully expecting to see everyone’s best play this year, this is the first year Weltman publicly announced that we’re actively competing for a championship. Those words mean a lot more than people think and should have some effect on the players.

I say you evaluate next summer when his new contract kicks in. Hopefully he has a healthy season and can bring back some better value.

I hated WCJ last year it was so annoying that he got a big extension then went into the tank. But more I think about it the injuries really played a factor in the total collapse of our offense everyone had to play up 1 or 2 levels above the plan. This Bane changes a lot I want to see him back and see if he can get more open shots and get back to the progress he started to look like he was making 2 years ago
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Post#320 » by bigdogdylan5 » Tue Jun 17, 2025 5:19 pm

Knightro wrote:It's worth noting... the MLE does not have to be a free agent signing.

It can now also be used like a TPE and you can trade for someone making $14.1M or less and just absorb them without sending any salary back.

Guys who could potentially be of interest for the Magic that fit would fit into the full MLE...

Josh Green (13.66M)
Grant Williams (13.64M)
Bobby Portis (13.44M) - if he opts in
Robert Williams III (13.28M)
Donte DiVincenzo (11.99M)
Moses Moody (11.57M)
Jarred Vanderbilt (11.57M)
Gabe Vincent (11.50M)
Isaac Okoro (11.00M)
Mike Conley Jr. (10.77M)
Royce O'Neale (10.12M)
Sam Hauser (10.04M)
Lonzo Ball (10.00M)
Kyle Anderson (9.21M)
Jalen Smith (9.00M)
Naji Marshall (9.00M)

Not saying any of these guys are necessarily on the block, but if their respective teams are looking to shed some salary for whatever reason...

Mike Conley would be extremely interesting. He is older than the sea but can we squeeze one more year out of him in the CoJo role. Extremely high character guy going all the way back to Ohio State. An excellent veteran presence for this team. His value is so down because of how bad he got destroyed by OKC. But look at what OKC is doing to Haliburton I don’t think he is completely washed. There might be better opportunities but I think that would be there for us if we want to grab it.
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