Official 2024-2025 Magic Trade ideas thread continued

[Bensational]

lol, Magic fans going nuts on the trade machines. I went to fanspo’s trade machine and the #2, #3 and #6 trending players on the trade machine are KCP, Cole and Isaac respectively.

[eyriq]

lol, Magic fans going nuts on the trade machines. I went to fanspo’s trade machine and the #2, #3 and #6 trending players on the trade machine are KCP, Cole and Isaac respectively.

Please let this be an accurate reflection of Weltman's priorities

[BadMofoPimp]

lol, Magic fans going nuts on the trade machines. I went to fanspo’s trade machine and the #2, #3 and #6 trending players on the trade machine are KCP, Cole and Isaac respectively.

We know where RealGM fans go to test trade idea's.

[Bensational]

lol, Magic fans going nuts on the trade machines. I went to fanspo’s trade machine and the #2, #3 and #6 trending players on the trade machine are KCP, Cole and Isaac respectively.

Please let this be an accurate reflection of Weltman's priorities

Weltman putting in work on fanspo. Durant was the #1 trending target - is this anything?

[MasterGMer]

No, I wouldn't trade Jalen Suggs for Maxey and 6th pick. Jalen and Tyress are two different types of players. Jalen fits the defensive anchor role with Magic while Maxey is a scorer at most while we still have Franz and Paolo. No need for Maxey but 6th pick is intriguing in this draft, a lot

[drsd]

lol, Magic fans going nuts on the trade machines. I went to fanspo’s trade machine and the #2, #3 and #6 trending players on the trade machine are KCP, Cole and Isaac respectively.

Please let this be an accurate reflection of Weltman's priorities

Weltman putting in work on fanspo. Durant was the #1 trending target - is this anything?

One of these mocks was DeRozan for Caldwell-Pope. It is a lateral trade that could make both teams better.

Many here (including me) have been scared that DeRozan is a career 30% shooter. Well: over the last four years, he has been a ~33% tree ball shooter and on this team, he would be the team's best shooter.

Dude's gonna be 36 with another three years. But, right now, DeRozan sounds a lot better than keeping Kenny.

[pepe1991]

Please let this be an accurate reflection of Weltman's priorities

Weltman putting in work on fanspo. Durant was the #1 trending target - is this anything?

One of these mocks was DeRozan for Caldwell-Pope. It is a lateral trade that could make both teams better.

Many here (including me) have been scared that DeRozan is a career 30% shooter. Well: over the last four years, he has been a ~33% tree ball shooter and on this team, he would be the team's best shooter.

Dude's gonna be 36 with another three years. But, right now, DeRozan sounds a lot better than keeping Kenny.

it's just more high volume bad shots. Like one Banchero isn't enough.

Guys like Lavine, Derozan, Melo, Boozer are type of players who go to all star games, even all nba selections ,but never help teams win games. Most teams in order to win, have to win despite of them, but they get all the credit for Ws. And if teams suck, as they often do, people blame role players for shortcommings. Sounds familiar?

[cedric76]

lol, Magic fans going nuts on the trade machines. I went to fanspo’s trade machine and the #2, #3 and #6 trending players on the trade machine are KCP, Cole and Isaac respectively.

Skybox on a rampage

[cedric76]

I m not a fan of poole, he is really talented but has a poor BBiq, so i m not advocating for his trade

Washington wants to develop their young players and be a big FA player in summer 2026 so dumping Poole is a no brainer for them

Cole (exp in 2026) + harris (can be cut this summer) and Jett young player with potential) for poole works (Cheap way to add talent and Poole might work better as a 3/4 best player on a team)

We take an extra 13 M next season which is not a big deal

However it d make our team very expensive the year 2026/2027

Suggs,AB,poole
Poole,KCP,Clifford
Franz,TDS,Houstan
Paolo,JI,Moe
WCJ,Goga,Moe

Defintely not a fan of this

[Bensational]

Please let this be an accurate reflection of Weltman's priorities

Weltman putting in work on fanspo. Durant was the #1 trending target - is this anything?

One of these mocks was DeRozan for Caldwell-Pope. It is a lateral trade that could make both teams better.

Many here (including me) have been scared that DeRozan is a career 30% shooter. Well: over the last four years, he has been a ~33% tree ball shooter and on this team, he would be the team's best shooter.

Dude's gonna be 36 with another three years. But, right now, DeRozan sounds a lot better than keeping Kenny.

DDR as a 6th man bench scorer might be interesting but not for the cost, and not when the team has more pressing needs in the backcourt and on the perimeter - IMO.

KCP + Isaac + Cole add up to a max contract cap-wise. Throw in a bunch of firsts and let’s go big game hunting, I reckon.

[yoyojw17]

Weltman putting in work on fanspo. Durant was the #1 trending target - is this anything?

One of these mocks was DeRozan for Caldwell-Pope. It is a lateral trade that could make both teams better.

Many here (including me) have been scared that DeRozan is a career 30% shooter. Well: over the last four years, he has been a ~33% tree ball shooter and on this team, he would be the team's best shooter.

Dude's gonna be 36 with another three years. But, right now, DeRozan sounds a lot better than keeping Kenny.

DDR as a 6th man bench scorer might be interesting but not for the cost, and not when the team has more pressing needs in the backcourt and on the perimeter - IMO.

KCP + Isaac + Cole add up to a max contract cap-wise. Throw in a bunch of firsts and let’s go big game hunting, I reckon.

It's been stated that larger contracts needed to be created and maintained in order for them to make these deals without having to sacrifice young players. They believed in their guys and potential and gave them solid contracts.... Tradable ones... So when the opportunity arises they can be used. Especially for a desperate team or s disgruntled player that they believe helps the team out in the way they would like. But they aren't trading just to trade unless it's at a good value.

[Skybox]

lol, Magic fans going nuts on the trade machines. I went to fanspo’s trade machine and the #2, #3 and #6 trending players on the trade machine are KCP, Cole and Isaac respectively.

Skybox on a rampage

I’m a Spotrac guy…but willing to be traded

[Skybox]

No, I wouldn't trade Jalen Suggs for Maxey and 6th pick. Jalen and Tyress are two different types of players. Jalen fits the defensive anchor role with Magic while Maxey is a scorer at most while we still have Franz and Paolo. No need for Maxey but 6th pick is intriguing in this draft, a lot

Suggs might get you #6 and a bunch of bad salary back. Suggs won’t get you a callback re: Maxey alone and certainly not with a high pick on top….Suggs probably gets you McCain.

I’d like to know if PHI would like AB for McCain and whether adding our frp would be enough to get it done. I’d give them both frps to have such a suitable guard next to Suggs and still on a rookie deal from all accounts, his knee rehab is on solid track.

[tiderulz]

No, I wouldn't trade Jalen Suggs for Maxey and 6th pick. Jalen and Tyress are two different types of players. Jalen fits the defensive anchor role with Magic while Maxey is a scorer at most while we still have Franz and Paolo. No need for Maxey but 6th pick is intriguing in this draft, a lot

because he cant stay on the floor? I love Suggs the player as an idea, but he, like Isaac, cannot stay healthy

[VFX]

I was out on Isaac after year 5 of not playing basketball.

Sitting two full seasons to return and play 11 games means his career was done.

At that point in his short career he had played in 136/410 games. He now sits at 267/656 games for his career having only started in 108 of those games.

Suggs is at 211/328 games currently.

They are not at the same level… yet.

I will be “out” on Suggs when he dips below a little more than half total possible games played based on potential availability. That means missing a good chunk of next season with another injury early.

We can talk about him being like Isaac next season if this continues.

[the_process]

No, I wouldn't trade Jalen Suggs for Maxey and 6th pick. Jalen and Tyress are two different types of players. Jalen fits the defensive anchor role with Magic while Maxey is a scorer at most while we still have Franz and Paolo. No need for Maxey but 6th pick is intriguing in this draft, a lot

Suggs might get you #6 and a bunch of bad salary back. Suggs won’t get you a callback re: Maxey alone and certainly not with a high pick on top….Suggs probably gets you McCain.

I’d like to know if PHI would like AB for McCain and whether adding our frp would be enough to get it done. I’d give them both frps to have such a suitable guard next to Suggs and still on a rookie deal from all accounts, his knee rehab is on solid track.

No, Sixer fans are not interested in AB really.

There is also the thought that your picks will not be very valuable going forward.

There's really only one viable trade between our teams: Maxey for Franz. You guys need a shoot/score number one option type. And Franz and Paolo are somewhat duplicative.

However, I have seen that you guys are not interested in that. Very good. We all move on.

[eyriq]

I was out on Isaac after year 5 of not playing basketball.

Sitting two full seasons to return and play 11 games means his career was done.

At that point in his short career he had played in 136/410 games. He now sits at 267/656 games for his career having only started in 108 of those games.

Suggs is at 211/328 games currently.

They are not at the same level… yet.

I will be “out” on Suggs when he dips below a little more than half total possible games played based on potential availability. That means missing a good chunk of next season with another injury early.

We can talk about him being like Isaac next season if this continues.

Yeah, that's reasonable. I'm hopeful it doesn't come to that.

[orlando_joe]

No, I wouldn't trade Jalen Suggs for Maxey and 6th pick. Jalen and Tyress are two different types of players. Jalen fits the defensive anchor role with Magic while Maxey is a scorer at most while we still have Franz and Paolo. No need for Maxey but 6th pick is intriguing in this draft, a lot

Suggs might get you #6 and a bunch of bad salary back. Suggs won’t get you a callback re: Maxey alone and certainly not with a high pick on top….Suggs probably gets you McCain.

I’d like to know if PHI would like AB for McCain and whether adding our frp would be enough to get it done. I’d give them both frps to have such a suitable guard next to Suggs and still on a rookie deal from all accounts, his knee rehab is on solid track.

have you ever heard one was not going good at his point of recovery? real question i never have

and you would give all that for a guy coming off bad knee based on 20 games?

[drsd]

DDR as a 6th man bench scorer might be interesting but not for the cost, and not when the team has more pressing needs in the backcourt and on the perimeter - IMO.

Many here are looking for an ace PG to be brought in, which if it happened, this would shift Suggs to SG and Caldwell-Pope to the bench.

So: at the same salary line, would it be better for DeRozan or Caldwell-Pope to be a bench player? (rhetoric).
It's not an easy question as I think Caldwell-Pope would swallow his pride in such a role. Would DeRozan? (rhetoric).

In conclusion.
i) DeRozan is a better player than Caldwell-Pope.
ii) this team will continue to be stuck so long as Anthony and Caldwell-Pope are on the roster.

What happens next? If as a gambling man, I would bet on "no change" regarding Caldwell-Pope as starting SG. I think there is some sort of fairy-dream-fantasy by management that this was a one-off for both Anthony and Caldwell-Pope and that the magical elves of lore are gonna make both better.


Second conclusion: I believe that DeRozan is the wrong player at the wrong time, and trading for him would all but ensure the Magic spiral into mediocrity through 2028.

[drsd]

Collin Sexton shifting Suggs to SG or Simons as starting SG: why does management make obvious trades so painful in their non existence???

That said, I would rather Alex Caruso or Luke Kennard be a starting guard over Caldwell-Pope. So what do I know.