#8 UCF [10-0] @ Tampa

EasternMagic wrote: I wish someone could get through to Frost to let him know, "Hey... you don't HAVE to leave," because it feels like he's just constantly delaying his departure.

There was a 100% chance Frost would accept Nebraska whenever it was offered to him. In that there was a "HAVE to leave" implied.

OrlChamps2030 · Post #327 » by **OrlChamps2030** » Sun Dec 3, 2017 5:53 pm

Sumlin would be a great hire

Nemesis21 · Post #328 » by **Nemesis21** » Sun Dec 3, 2017 5:56 pm

ESPN is saying Kevin Sumlin is UCF's top target.

MagicFan101 · Post #329 » by **MagicFan101** » Sun Dec 3, 2017 5:57 pm

drsd wrote:
UCF wrote:Florida champs in this poll!

For UCF to be the best team in Florida, over Miami, USF, FSU and Florida, that is an incredible (almost ridiculous) accomplishment!

..

You know better than that. Rankings != Talent.

UCF had a cute season which they should be very proud of. But they didn’t have to play Clemson, Bama, UGA, Notre Dame and on and on.

Congrats to UCF. This season is a big step in right direction. ... but they are still far behind the big 3 (even this year).

Post #330 » by **craig01** » Sun Dec 3, 2017 5:59 pm

Zmill wrote:Sumlin would be a great hire

For systems absolutely.

Sumlin has had some baggage attached during his time at TAM. he is an outstanding recruiter and coach however.

Post #331 » by **UCFJayBird** » Sun Dec 3, 2017 6:22 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:
drsd wrote:
UCF wrote:Florida champs in this poll!

For UCF to be the best team in Florida, over Miami, USF, FSU and Florida, that is an incredible (almost ridiculous) accomplishment!

..

You know better than that. Rankings != Talent.

UCF had a cute season which they should be very proud of. But they didn’t have to play Clemson, Bama, UGA, Notre Dame and on and on.

Congrats to UCF. This season is a big step in right direction. ... but they are still far behind the big 3 (even this year).

And yet we had more top 25 wins than 5-6 teams ahead of us in the rankings.

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nymets1 · Post #332 » by **nymets1** » Sun Dec 3, 2017 6:36 pm

If we hire Kevin Sumlin before our bowl game, It could be a controversy debate of either 1. Do we let Scott Frost finish out the bowl game with us and because we went undefeated and its one of the new year's 6 bowl games and not just any bowl game, We be playing in one of the top bowl games.

Or 2. Say forget Scott Frost he accepted the nebraska job, We got Kevin Sumlin and let him get a head start in our bowl game before going into next year.

Post #333 » by **UCFJayBird** » Sun Dec 3, 2017 6:38 pm

nymets1 wrote:If we hire Kevin Sumlin before our bowl game, It could be a controversy debate of either 1. Do we let Scott Frost finish out the bowl game with us and because we went undefeated and its one of the new year's 6 bowl games and not just any bowl game, We be playing in one of the top bowl games.

Or 2. Say forget Scott Frost he accepted the nebraska job, We got Kevin Sumlin and let him get a head start in our bowl game before going into next year.

New coach won't coach bowl game regardless. Too busy hiring new staff and recruiting to come in and try and get to know players and prepare. It'll be either Frost or Walters

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nymets1 · Post #334 » by **nymets1** » Sun Dec 3, 2017 6:42 pm

Than Scott Frost should definitely be our coach for the bowl game especially since we had an undefeated season and in a new year's bowl game. Maybe give Walters additional responsibilities for the bowl game but I definitely still want Frost there.

Anybody that was at the game last night, remember the student section chanting "We want Scott Frost" "We want Scott Frost" "We want Scott Frost" . Maybe our 1st home game next year, we already start hearing chants of "We want Kevin Sumlin" . I think 1st home game next year, everybody's excited about the 1st home of the year, coming off our season last year and jacked up we have Kevin Sumlin to sooth and heal from the loss of Scott Frost quickly.

MagicFan101 · Post #335 » by **MagicFan101** » Sun Dec 3, 2017 8:06 pm

UCFJayBird wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
drsd wrote:
For UCF to be the best team in Florida, over Miami, USF, FSU and Florida, that is an incredible (almost ridiculous) accomplishment!

..

You know better than that. Rankings != Talent.

UCF had a cute season which they should be very proud of. But they didn’t have to play Clemson, Bama, UGA, Notre Dame and on and on.

Congrats to UCF. This season is a big step in right direction. ... but they are still far behind the big 3 (even this year).

And yet we had more top 25 wins than 5-6 teams ahead of us in the rankings.

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Again, rankings != talent. Rankings are primarily determined by record. A primary factor in the record teams like UCF, Memphis as USF earned was the inferior opponents they faced.

For example, UCF is ranked ahead of 9-3 LSU. If you swapped schedules for these teams do you not expect UCF to have at least 3 losses? Surely no one doubts that Alabama would be a loss and we will likely have a chance to see first hand what the result of a UCF-Auburn game would be.

We can be proud of a good step forward without being unrealistic to the reality that there is still a long way to go.

Post #336 » by **UCF** » Sun Dec 3, 2017 8:27 pm

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drsd · Post #337 » by **drsd** » Sun Dec 3, 2017 8:50 pm

Thankfully my Knights will miss my Badgers. Dodged the bullet this time!

Post #338 » by **UCF** » Sun Dec 3, 2017 9:03 pm

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Post #339 » by **UCF** » Sun Dec 3, 2017 9:05 pm

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Xatticus · Post #340 » by **Xatticus** » Sun Dec 3, 2017 9:07 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:
UCFJayBird wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
You know better than that. Rankings != Talent.

UCF had a cute season which they should be very proud of. But they didn’t have to play Clemson, Bama, UGA, Notre Dame and on and on.

Congrats to UCF. This season is a big step in right direction. ... but they are still far behind the big 3 (even this year).

And yet we had more top 25 wins than 5-6 teams ahead of us in the rankings.

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Again, rankings != talent. Rankings are primarily determined by record. A primary factor in the record teams like UCF, Memphis as USF earned was the inferior opponents they faced.

For example, UCF is ranked ahead of 9-3 LSU. If you swapped schedules for these teams do you not expect UCF to have at least 3 losses? Surely no one doubts that Alabama would be a loss and we will likely have a chance to see first hand what the result of a UCF-Auburn game would be.

We can be proud of a good step forward without being unrealistic to the reality that there is still a long way to go.

That's the fallacy that the powers that be would have you believe. They benefit from the perpetuation of this myth. There is a difference in the strengths of the schedules that these teams play against, but it isn't anywhere near as extreme as is perceived.

Power 5 schools seldom travel to play non-conference games. It's exceptionally rare that they travel to play non-Power 5 teams. It's too dangerous.

Non-AQs were 5-3 (one of those losses was against another non-AQ) in BCS games, including wins by Boise St. over Oklahoma and Utah over Alabama. This is why the system was revamped to avoid the inclusion of a team from outside of the power 5 when the playoff was created.

LSU lost three games against the 63rd toughest schedule (by sagarin), which included a loss at home against Troy. UCF was undefeated against the 83rd toughest schedule. Alabama got into the playoff without winning it's own division or conference. They played the 56th toughest schedule.

Yes. I am unequivocally stating that UCF would have fewer than three losses if they played LSU's schedule. I think the likelihood of Troy winning in Orlando is exceptionally low. Yes. UCF is better than Mississippi St., FSU, and LSU. That means that UCF is better than anyone Alabama beat this year. I'm not arguing that UCF is better than Alabama, but we aren't going to get to find out.