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Official Speculation Thread ‘19-'20 III: It's B-ball Time !!!

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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘19-'20 III: bored - when is it B-ball time? 

Post#321 » by pepe1991 » Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:59 pm

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Knightro wrote: One single cortisone shot for someone, professional athlete or not, is not a big deal whatsoever. The only time I went into Orlando Foot & Ankle Clinic one time a few years back with a sore foot one time. They did x-rays on the spot and everything came back clean. Five minutes later, you know what they did? They gave me a cortisone shot. And they did it without even really asking me if I thought I needed it. It was second nature. I was in there for 15 minutes and they went from x-ray to cortisone shot without giving it a second thought. It's a very common procedure for people who have general soreness and inflammation with nothing structurally wrong.


Would you have been ok that they didn't tell you about those very serious side effects if one of them did occur and negatively impacted your life? ...especially if they had charged you or your insurance for it to pad the bill.


Tell your doctor right away if you have any serious side effects, including: easy bruising/bleeding, difficulty hearing, ringing in the ears, signs of kidney problems (such as change in the amount of urine), persistent or severe nausea/vomiting, unexplained tiredness, dizziness, dark urine, yellowing eyes/skin.

This drug may rarely cause serious bleeding from the stomach/intestine or other areas of the body. If you notice any of the following very serious side effects, get medical help right away: black/tarry stools, persistent or severe stomach/abdominal pain, vomit that looks like coffee grounds, slurred speech, weakness on one side of the body, sudden vision changes or severe headache.


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this are potential side effects of freaking aspirin that literally every single person took 500 in their lifes. Moral of a story- every injection, pill , food you eat or drink you tak has potential side effects, but in 99% of cases nothing negative will actually happen once you take it.
In 2017 i almost died from alergic reaction after eating kiwi that i had no issue eating year before. Things happen, but you can't only look at side effects as something that is expected. It's not. Philly medical stuff gave Fultz injection to help him, knowing chances of making things worst are really slim. Why you even want to keep going back on cort.shots is confusing to me. Athletes take pain blocker type of injections all the time. Even regular people do when they have knee and back pain
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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘19-'20 III: bored - when is it B-ball time? 

Post#322 » by Knightro » Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:05 pm

ezzzp wrote:Would you have been ok that they didn't tell you about those very serious side effects if one of them did occur and negatively impacted your life? ...especially if they had charged you or your insurance for it to pad the bill.


Don't be so dramatic now.

Considering the odds of those "very serious side effects" you mentioned actually occurring because of one cortisone shot are INCREDIBLY minuscule, I was ok with it.

It also made my foot feel better, so I guess there's little victories all over the place.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘19-'20 III: bored - when is it B-ball time? 

Post#323 » by Catledge » Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:11 pm

tiderulz wrote:
Knightro wrote:
-Admits Bamba had "a setback" in July, but it was minor and he's gotten much stronger
We'll see how it goes. I'm not overly optimistic about Bamba.
-Confirms Mo will start out as the backup C and Khem has already been told of the plan
Totally understand why Clifford is going this route, but really hope he has the stones to pull the plug on Mo if he plays terribly.

disagree with this. Birch and Bamba should be fighting for backup center. backups shouldnt be guaranteed anything, they should have to earn it. Make sure you know the plays in practice so you dont eff up in the game.


I remember ahead of last season when somebody asked Cliff about DJ and Grant competing for the starting job, Cliff replied, "I don't do things like that" and made it clear that DJ was the starter. My amateur analysis is that Cliff seems to believe in having a plan before camp starts and being up front about that plan.

So if management is telling him that Bamba needs to get developmental minutes, Cliff believes in being upfront with Khem about it instead of pretending like it's an open competition when it's not. I can respect that.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘19-'20 III: bored - when is it B-ball time? 

Post#324 » by ezzzp » Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:01 pm

Knightro wrote:
ezzzp wrote:Would you have been ok that they didn't tell you about those very serious side effects if one of them did occur and negatively impacted your life? ...especially if they had charged you or your insurance for it to pad the bill.


Don't be so dramatic now.

Considering the odds of those "very serious side effects" you mentioned actually occurring because of one cortisone shot are INCREDIBLY minuscule, I was ok with it.

It also made my foot feel better, so I guess there's little victories all over the place.


way to avoid answering the question
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Post#325 » by NavalAviator94 » Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:05 pm

The season needs to start for the mental health of this board.


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Post#326 » by basketballRob » Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:31 pm

tiderulz wrote:
Knightro wrote:
-Admits Bamba had "a setback" in July, but it was minor and he's gotten much stronger
We'll see how it goes. I'm not overly optimistic about Bamba.
-Confirms Mo will start out as the backup C and Khem has already been told of the plan
Totally understand why Clifford is going this route, but really hope he has the stones to pull the plug on Mo if he plays terribly.

disagree with this. Birch and Bamba should be fighting for backup center. backups shouldnt be guaranteed anything, they should have to earn it. Make sure you know the plays in practice so you dont eff up in the game.
Maybe he did.

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Post#327 » by ezzzp » Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:31 pm

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Tell your doctor right away if you have any serious side effects, including: easy bruising/bleeding, difficulty hearing, ringing in the ears, signs of kidney problems (such as change in the amount of urine), persistent or severe nausea/vomiting, unexplained tiredness, dizziness, dark urine, yellowing eyes/skin.


...and these are the risks of a cortizone shot:

Cartilage damage
Death of nearby bone
Joint infection
Nerve damage
Tendon weakening or rupture
Thinning of nearby bone (osteoporosis)

yep just like aspirin...
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Post#328 » by VFX » Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:41 pm

Whenever someone responds to “certain” posters with a different opinion.

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Post#329 » by ezzzp » Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:49 pm

A couple of podcasts on Fultz:

• The Crossover / Chris Mannix Podcast: The Future of Markelle Fultz

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-future-of-markelle-fultz/id1078713316?i=1000450336157

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• Roy Parry of the Sentinel

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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘19-'20 III: bored - when is it B-ball time? 

Post#330 » by Def Swami » Thu Sep 19, 2019 11:01 pm

ezzzp wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
Tell your doctor right away if you have any serious side effects, including: easy bruising/bleeding, difficulty hearing, ringing in the ears, signs of kidney problems (such as change in the amount of urine), persistent or severe nausea/vomiting, unexplained tiredness, dizziness, dark urine, yellowing eyes/skin.


...and these are the risks of a cortizone shot:

Cartilage damage
Death of nearby bone
Joint infection
Nerve damage
Tendon weakening or rupture
Thinning of nearby bone (osteoporosis)

yep just like aspirin...

FWIW, cortisone shots are pretty benign and routine. A lot of the time they're done under ultrasound guidance to prevent any of those complications. I know primary doctors that routinely do these for their patients. There are emergency physicians who do this for acute pain relief. You could also recite these complications for any procedure that requires sticking a needle into someone.

I wouldn't say there's no risk. There's risk in everything. He must have had enough pain to warrant a cortisone shot. But for most physicians trained in this, and I imagine a high profile team like the Sixers has the best of the best, it's a pretty easy procedure.
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Post#331 » by ezzzp » Thu Sep 19, 2019 11:26 pm

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tiderulz wrote:disagree with this. Birch and Bamba should be fighting for backup center. backups shouldnt be guaranteed anything, they should have to earn it. Make sure you know the plays in practice so you dont eff up in the game.


I remember ahead of last season when somebody asked Cliff about DJ and Grant competing for the starting job, Cliff replied, "I don't do things like that" and made it clear that DJ was the starter. My amateur analysis is that Cliff seems to believe in having a plan before camp starts and being up front about that plan.

So if management is telling him that Bamba needs to get developmental minutes, Cliff believes in being upfront with Khem about it instead of pretending like it's an open competition when it's not. I can respect that.



Birch had to have asked what his role was going to be before signing what looks like a team friendly deal. Seems like they would have told him he'd have a chance to compete for the back up role. But maybe that was the best offer he got.

Clifford's quote: "Moe's going to be the back up to start. Khem knows that. Mo was brought here to be a big part of the future."

That part sounds like Bamba is going to get a pretty long leash. But then later Clifford says:

"A year ago, Khem was more of a 3d string C, so I wasn't concerned about finding ways to keep him in rhythm, where now I am....Khem's a legitimate backup player in this league...so that part for him is different in that when there are opportunities, I will try to get him in the game."

That on the other hand, to me sounds like more than garbage time minutes for Birch...if Bamba is struggling I think he's hinting that he won't hesitate to put Birch in. But maybe I'm reading too much into that.
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Post#332 » by ezzzp » Thu Sep 19, 2019 11:34 pm

Def Swami wrote:He must have had enough pain to warrant a cortisone shot.


That was my initial point - that the 76ers were certainly aware he was having some type of shoulder issue. The conversation just got "deflected" away from that.
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Post#333 » by skywalker33 » Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:31 am

Isaac weighing in at 240lbs up 31lbs in two months, I'm speculating he's found something called steroids.....Mom's cooking doesn't even work that fast.
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Exactly as I've been saying all along !!
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Post#334 » by basketballRob » Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:04 am

I could see Fultz and Bamba having good chemistry on the court, like Evan and Vuc do now.

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Post#335 » by pepe1991 » Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:52 am

We are now officially less than a month away from regular season
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Post#336 » by Jiwol » Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:02 am

pepe1991 wrote:We are now officially less than a month away from regular season


No, we,re not. The season starts on Oct 22nd
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Post#337 » by pepe1991 » Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:05 am

Jiwol wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:We are now officially less than a month away from regular season


No, we,re not. The season starts on Oct 22nd


bro :lol: my brain is in full friday mood

you are, ofc, right. But hey , 32 days ! :lol:
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Post#338 » by Catledge » Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:32 pm

pepe1991 wrote:
Jiwol wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:We are now officially less than a month away from regular season


No, we,re not. The season starts on Oct 22nd


bro :lol: my brain is in full friday mood

you are, ofc, right. But hey , 32 days ! :lol:


That's still worth getting excited about.
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Post#339 » by rcklsscognition » Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:08 pm

Where TF are the new uniforms? I was almost certain they'd have been released this week. Only one left before media day now. Maybe they won't release the juice ones until later in the season.
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Post#340 » by ezzzp » Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:54 pm

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