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Who do you want us to take at #1?

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Who would you take at #1?

Jabari smith
111
51%
Chet Holmgren
63
29%
Paolo Banchero
27
13%
Jaden Ivey
1
0%
Keegan Murray
1
0%
Shaedon Sharpe
8
4%
Other
5
2%
 
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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#321 » by Knightro » Thu May 19, 2022 4:52 pm

zaymon wrote:Its actually quite simple. One clip looks like playoffs basketball and the other is not




Which one is which? :lol:
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Post#322 » by Bensational » Thu May 19, 2022 5:10 pm

zaymon wrote:Its actually quite simple. One clip looks like playoffs basketball and the other is not




I’m not sure which one you’re saying is which. Both players have skills that would be useful in the playoffs.

Jabari - shooting is such a premium post season skill these days and so many games are decided by hot runs from the perimeter. Even though Jabari isn’t creating his shots, he’s getting open and finishing them. His profile, as it stands, would be great for almost any team, but he’ll need a playmaker or two to already be on the team to maximise his value. Just like Rashard, he could be a game winner for us, without being a standout franchise player.

Paolo - his ISO game and handles are great for when defenses tighten and you need to create a bucket, and he showed he could do that all the way to the finals. His profile is the type where you put the ball in his hands, like a Tatum. The question then becomes - will he be a better playmaker than Fultz or Franz? Will he have the floor spacing to be able to work effectively? Do we need to move guards to help balance the roster for him? And on defense, do we need a different C if WCJr nor Paolo will be rim defenders?

Chet, Jabari and Paolo all have such starkly different games but each looks valuable in their own right. I’ve warmed to Banchero much more than I had earlier in the season, and I’d be happy with WeHam picking any of those guys.

It feels pretty good to be going into a draft and knowing I’ll be happy with who we end up with no matter what.
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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#323 » by thelead » Thu May 19, 2022 5:15 pm

You know, a comp I haven't heard for Jabari yet is Brandon Ingram. I know Ingram showed more ability/willingness to drive/dribble but I think it's a pretty interesting comp.
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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#324 » by Creativetran » Thu May 19, 2022 5:26 pm

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If Welt wants a star he should seriously consider trading this pick. But he won't.

Thats the big problem, EVERYONE knows this is a horrible draft for stars...whos gonna give something good for the number #1?
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Post#325 » by Nyce_1 » Thu May 19, 2022 5:27 pm

I haven't seen this mentioned but how much does playing with another top 7/8 lotto pick help your game? Paolo had the luxury of playing with AJ all season to properly showcase his skillsets. How would Jabari have looked with another lotto guard on his team? or how about Chet?

Damn, we really about to add a #1 pick to our team.
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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#326 » by SloNick Russia » Thu May 19, 2022 5:33 pm

I voted for Chet. I think he has best potential to become a star player. His issue is phisicality which is probably the easiest problem to solve in time. Look at Dwight picture in his rookie season, look at Giannis when he got to Millwaukee. Sure Chet will never be anything close to those two in terms of muscles, but his skill set is amazing for a 7 footer at 20. We have time to develop Chet slowly next seasson.
By the way, if only Suggs had a better year we would not even have a topic here.
As for Jabari his ball handling issues and inability to create his own shot scare me, you can't affort to spend 1st pick on a great 3D player.
As for Paolo I just don't like bigs who don't bring quality shot blocking and interior defence. Don't want us to have another Randle type player, I think its just not good enough to build a contender team.
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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#327 » by pepe1991 » Thu May 19, 2022 5:39 pm

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pepe1991 wrote:What execlly on offense Jabari Smith provides as 1st overall pick that Michael Porter isn't, while we all know Michael Porter can't be anything more than 3rd option on elite team, playing behing 2 time MVP?

You do realize that MPJ with the type of defense Jabari is expected to have coming into the league is probably a top 20 player in the NBA?

Saying that Jabari is Lauri with “a little better defense” just doesn’t make sense to me. Lauri is a turnstile defensively. Jabari was one of the most versatile defenders in college basketball last year who can switch positions 1-4, protect the rim, rebound, and gives maximum effort with how hot his motor runs.

MPJ is one of the worst defenders in basketball. If you’re going to make a comparison to him, you have to acknowledge the other side of the ball.


.... Porter with defense would still not sniff near top 20 ( nor top 30 for that matter).
And no, i don't think Jabari Smith is as good defender as people here hype him to be. When you play with best rim protector in college since early 1990s you don't really have to do much.
Terrence Jones was hyped into "great defender" because he was guy tagging alonge AD at college. Hype got so far that even draft.net was proclaiming Terrence Jones can play both SF and PF. He somehow even got to almost 2,0 bpg at college.
Than NBA started and he couldn't guard pretty much anybody and that shotblocking was product of being out of position and gambling on weak side defense.


That being said, i said specifilly that i'm only compare their offense.

Lauri can make shots , Lauri can make 3s. Lauri can't score in post in general, Lauri does not like to pound down low, Lauri does not know how to put ball on the floor or drive. Lauri can't drive nor scores in paint in general. Lauri, much like Jabari is mediocre rebounder. Yes, there are plenty of similarities in their offense.




Countless amount of time Smith and whole team is just bailed out by existence of Kessler and his ability to alter and swat shots.
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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#328 » by basketballRob » Thu May 19, 2022 5:57 pm

pepe1991 wrote:
PrimeThyme wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:What execlly on offense Jabari Smith provides as 1st overall pick that Michael Porter isn't, while we all know Michael Porter can't be anything more than 3rd option on elite team, playing behing 2 time MVP?

You do realize that MPJ with the type of defense Jabari is expected to have coming into the league is probably a top 20 player in the NBA?

Saying that Jabari is Lauri with “a little better defense” just doesn’t make sense to me. Lauri is a turnstile defensively. Jabari was one of the most versatile defenders in college basketball last year who can switch positions 1-4, protect the rim, rebound, and gives maximum effort with how hot his motor runs.

MPJ is one of the worst defenders in basketball. If you’re going to make a comparison to him, you have to acknowledge the other side of the ball.


.... Porter with defense would still not sniff near top 20 ( nor top 30 for that matter).
And no, i don't think Jabari Smith is as good defender as people here hype him to be. When you play with best rim protector in college since early 1990s you don't really have to do much.
Terrence Jones was hyped into "great defender" because he was guy tagging alonge AD at college. Hype got so far that even draft.net was proclaiming Terrence Jones can play both SF and PF. He somehow even got to almost 2,0 bpg at college.
Than NBA started and he couldn't guard pretty much anybody and that shotblocking was product of being out of position and gambling on weak side defense.


That being said, i said specifilly that i'm only compare their offense.

Lauri can make shots , Lauri can make 3s. Lauri can't score in post in general, Lauri does not like to pound down low, Lauri does not know how to put ball on the floor or drive. Lauri can't drive nor scores in paint in general. Lauri, much like Jabari is mediocre rebounder. Yes, there are plenty of similarities in their offense.




Countless amount of time Smith and whole team is just bailed out by existence of Kessler and his ability to alter and swat shots.
So, you don't like Jabari. Who do you want the Magic to draft? Jabari is my first pick.

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Post#329 » by Optimus_Steel » Thu May 19, 2022 6:15 pm

Bringing up Dwight and Giannis type to justify Chet.... Dwight had a massive frame/shoulders for a rookie (go look up his pics from 2004) and Giannis is a freaking alien. Chet is a twig, he is like a skeleton with skin, I cant see him taking the beating of 82 game seasons. The way that he lands when there is contact, upper and lower body, its injuries waiting to happen.
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Post#330 » by LDNMagic90 » Thu May 19, 2022 6:19 pm

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Post#331 » by basketballRob » Thu May 19, 2022 6:24 pm

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Post#332 » by LDNMagic90 » Thu May 19, 2022 6:29 pm

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I hope not, it could be that we already gave our assurances to Banchero

Edit - Never mind I thought they might’ve snubbed us I think it’s for all media.
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Post#333 » by MagicTownBaller » Thu May 19, 2022 6:38 pm

How many of y'all think that no matter who we draft won't be starting on day 1?

All are PF's and we have Franz, WCJ, Isaac, and potentially Bamba.

Will Chet, Paolo, or Jabari start over any of them?
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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#334 » by zaymon » Thu May 19, 2022 6:42 pm

Bensational wrote:
zaymon wrote:Its actually quite simple. One clip looks like playoffs basketball and the other is not




I’m not sure which one you’re saying is which. Both players have skills that would be useful in the playoffs.

Jabari - shooting is such a premium post season skill these days and so many games are decided by hot runs from the perimeter. Even though Jabari isn’t creating his shots, he’s getting open and finishing them. His profile, as it stands, would be great for almost any team, but he’ll need a playmaker or two to already be on the team to maximise his value. Just like Rashard, he could be a game winner for us, without being a standout franchise player.

Paolo - his ISO game and handles are great for when defenses tighten and you need to create a bucket, and he showed he could do that all the way to the finals. His profile is the type where you put the ball in his hands, like a Tatum. The question then becomes - will he be a better playmaker than Fultz or Franz? Will he have the floor spacing to be able to work effectively? Do we need to move guards to help balance the roster for him? And on defense, do we need a different C if WCJr nor Paolo will be rim defenders?

Chet, Jabari and Paolo all have such starkly different games but each looks valuable in their own right. I’ve warmed to Banchero much more than I had earlier in the season, and I’d be happy with WeHam picking any of those guys.

It feels pretty good to be going into a draft and knowing I’ll be happy with who we end up with no matter what.


What every team left in the playoffs has in common ? Lanky shooter who cant get to the rim hitting tough shots or big, thick, wing/forward who can get to the rim and create for other's ? Doncic, Green, Butler, Tatum, Brown. You can even mention Horford, Dinwiddie. How many lanky shooters who cant dribble or pass ??.... Well Dallas traded one at the deadline and became better..... I dont see any player similar to Jabari (or Holmgren for that matter) on a very good team.
I am very scared we will draft Smith or Holmgren and it will end up a disaster like Bamba (which i didnt like and wanted WCJ).

ps. Wagner and Banchero will be a splendid tandem becouse they are both triple threats and they both can pass. Fultz is a little worse fit but good passers always find a way and Paolo shot over 80% from free throw line before college.
My money is on Banchero going number 1 !
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Post#335 » by VFX » Thu May 19, 2022 6:43 pm

MagicTownBaller wrote:How many of y'all think that no matter who we draft won't be starting on day 1?

All are PF's and we have Franz, WCJ, Isaac, and potentially Bamba.

Will Chet, Paolo, or Jabari start over any of them?


Any of them are starting over JI.
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Post#336 » by Skybox » Thu May 19, 2022 6:45 pm

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again? what are you referring to?
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Post#337 » by Optimus_Steel » Thu May 19, 2022 6:45 pm

MagicTownBaller wrote:How many of y'all think that no matter who we draft won't be starting on day 1?

All are PF's and we have Franz, WCJ, Isaac, and potentially Bamba.

Will Chet, Paolo, or Jabari start over any of them?


Franz has been our SF.
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Post#338 » by basketballRob » Thu May 19, 2022 6:53 pm

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basketballRob wrote:
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again? what are you referring to?
One of the Magic beat writers said that some of the players canceled their media availability. I thought maybe they were just canceling with the Magic's people.

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Post#339 » by pinoynurse » Thu May 19, 2022 7:04 pm

Id take chet… for me he has the highest potential. But no question he has the lowest floor of the top 3. But everyone is saying we NEED 3pt shooting. No, what we need is a SUPERSTAR. Chet may or may not be that guy but i think he has the highest ceiling. But for sure if we draft him, he will STRUGGLE in his rookie year.
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Post#340 » by IllMagic04 » Thu May 19, 2022 7:08 pm

zaymon wrote:
Bensational wrote:
zaymon wrote:Its actually quite simple. One clip looks like playoffs basketball and the other is not




I’m not sure which one you’re saying is which. Both players have skills that would be useful in the playoffs.

Jabari - shooting is such a premium post season skill these days and so many games are decided by hot runs from the perimeter. Even though Jabari isn’t creating his shots, he’s getting open and finishing them. His profile, as it stands, would be great for almost any team, but he’ll need a playmaker or two to already be on the team to maximise his value. Just like Rashard, he could be a game winner for us, without being a standout franchise player.

Paolo - his ISO game and handles are great for when defenses tighten and you need to create a bucket, and he showed he could do that all the way to the finals. His profile is the type where you put the ball in his hands, like a Tatum. The question then becomes - will he be a better playmaker than Fultz or Franz? Will he have the floor spacing to be able to work effectively? Do we need to move guards to help balance the roster for him? And on defense, do we need a different C if WCJr nor Paolo will be rim defenders?

Chet, Jabari and Paolo all have such starkly different games but each looks valuable in their own right. I’ve warmed to Banchero much more than I had earlier in the season, and I’d be happy with WeHam picking any of those guys.

It feels pretty good to be going into a draft and knowing I’ll be happy with who we end up with no matter what.


What every team left in the playoffs has in common ? Lanky shooter who cant get to the rim hitting tough shots or big, thick, wing/forward who can get to the rim and create for other's ? Doncic, Green, Butler, Tatum, Brown. You can even mention Horford, Dinwiddie. How many lanky shooters who cant dribble or pass ??.... Well Dallas traded one at the deadline and became better..... I dont see any player similar to Jabari (or Holmgren for that matter) on a very good team.
I am very scared we will draft Smith or Holmgren and it will end up a disaster like Bamba (which i didnt like and wanted WCJ).

ps. Wagner and Banchero will be a splendid tandem becouse they are both triple threats and they both can pass. Fultz is a little worse fit but good passers always find a way and Paolo shot over 80% from free throw line before college.


I'd take Banchero number 1 but I don't see a scenario where Jabari is a disaster. His size, shot and athleticism will translate and he will be a very good stretch 4 at the very least. I have Banchero 1 and Jabari 1b. Its close. Even though Jabari hasn't shown much as a shot creator the fact he can make shots over guys is a huge plus. He can get his shot off with very little separation. Maybe he wont need to break guys down if they have to guard him so close so he can go right by them. Its def something I think about I just wish he showed some of that in college. As of now I still have Banchero number 1 though I agree.

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