Official 2024-2025 Magic Trade ideas thread continued

[ORLMagicGirl15]

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[CocoaFan]

Paolo is going to have to say he's waiting to sign an extension until he's see's what Weltman is going to do to improve the roster. His mother will be right in his ear. That is the only way you're going to get Weltman to get off the pot. Paolo has a lot of power to get things done including bringing in an offensive coordinator. He needs to use it.

[eyriq]

I kind of feel like they won't trade Wendell. Just extended him, plus he always seems to end up above Goga on the depth chart. Not sure why that would suddenly change. Think they hope his shot comes back and ride it out.

Goga is a wild card, I could see them making him available and he should have solid value IMO at least.

I suspect you have the right read on WCJ, they obviously think he's the starting big

[fendilim]

I kind of feel like they won't trade Wendell. Just extended him, plus he always seems to end up above Goga on the depth chart. Not sure why that would suddenly change. Think they hope his shot comes back and ride it out.

Goga is a wild card, I could see them making him available and he should have solid value IMO at least.

I suspect you have the right read on WCJ, they obviously think he's the starting big

Plus… wcj is mike’s client too.

All we need is Mike to power play for Ja to be traded here.

[orlando_joe]

crazy denver still just a couple more games lost from being a playin team..if they lost that could be lottery pick to magic...wont happen but oh so close

[Idiosyncratic]

crazy denver still just a couple more games lost from being a playin team..if they lost that could be lottery pick to magic...wont happen but oh so close

Yeah won't be lottery, but we will take any marginal gain we can. They play the Pacers next, if they lose that the Pacers pass them and it could be pick 22 or 23. If not probably ends at 25. I'll take any value increase I can in a deep draft. Better chance of being able to select someone higher on their board or being able to trade up, or better value trading back/for future 1st and picking up extra 2nds which have good trade deadline value.

[Skybox]

ORL sends: Wendell Carter, Cole Anthony, Jett Howard, ORL 25 frp (#15)
WAS sends: Poole, AJ Johnson

Go back a year and WAS would be attaching picks. Poole is having a solid year, but that is still a BIG contract with several more years for a guy that even his biggest fans understand is a bit of a wild card. WAS, hopefully, has a great draft and, suddenly, their rebuild is off and running. They have a load of interesting prospects to sort through for a few more years and Poole is just in the way. Picking up AJ Johnson for nothing was just gravy...they've actually gotten too deep at that spot with Bub, Smart, etc and probably could thin it out a bit and focus their development. They could realistically end up with Harper or Fears, which would make moving Poole and/or AJJ even more realistic.

For WAS: WCJ is a solid player that would complement Sarr and also versatile enough to play next to him with complementary skills. Easy to forget that he's still only 25yo. Cole is actually a great locker room guy and supportive teammate that would pitch in but not get in the way of Bub and the other young guys...he has a TO, so, worst scenario, he's only one year and tradable even if just as an expiring at the TD. Given the tank opportunity that Poole had - it wouldn't shock me to see Cole blow up in the same (questionable value) way. Jett is still young but gets no PT in ORL and would get less with
more guards coming in. He could very easily become a younger, cheaper, more offensively versatile Kispert pretty quickly.

Poole, AJ Johnson, AB
Suggs, KCP, AB
Franz, TdS, Caleb
Paolo, Isaac, Moe
Goga, Moe, Isaac

*I'd be looking hard at a move with KCP...he's coming on strong and I still think he's a solid player, but ORL just shouldn't pay him so much (especially as a backup - in a more conventional backcourt rotation). AB could move up in my proposed rotation and I don't think ORL would miss a beat. If he keeps shooting it so well, that'll be an easier task (or, blasphemy) ORL could consider keeping KCP and moving Suggs for something even more substantial.

Trade #2...
ORL sends: KCP, DEN 25 frp (#25), ORL 26 frp (top 5), ORL 28 frp (top 8)
BRK sends: Cam Johnson, BRK 25 frp (#8) - ORL selects Maluach

Poole, AJ Johnson
Suggs, AB
Franz, Cam, TdS
Paolo, Cam, Isaac
Maluach, Goga, Moe

*for additional blasphemy, ORL might consider not invoking Moe's TO. Isaac is capable of 3rd string C and Cam is worthy of starter minutes at multiple positions. TdS is also too promising to move out of the rotation...alternatively, keep Moe and move Goga at the TD (by then Moe should be back). This combination of moves makes sure we're not getting into crazy financial territory - just bringing in Poole gives us 4 guys that will be making north of $30m, and Cam is a straight swap for KCP salary - but he can provide more of what we don't have offensively.

[sk8wrulz]

ORL sends: Wendell Carter, Cole Anthony, Jett Howard, ORL 25 frp (#15)
WAS sends: Poole, AJ Johnson

Go back a year and WAS would be attaching picks. Poole is having a solid year, but that is still a BIG contract with several more years for a guy that even his biggest fans understand is a bit of a wild card. WAS, hopefully, has a great draft and, suddenly, their rebuild is off and running. They have a load of interesting prospects to sort through for a few more years and Poole is just in the way. Picking up AJ Johnson for nothing was just gravy...they've actually gotten too deep at that spot with Bub, Smart, etc and probably could thin it out a bit and focus their development. They could realistically end up with Harper or Fears, which would make moving Poole and/or AJJ even more realistic.

For WAS: WCJ is a solid player that would complement Sarr and also versatile enough to play next to him with complementary skills. Easy to forget that he's still only 25yo. Cole is actually a great locker room guy and supportive teammate that would pitch in but not get in the way of Bub and the other young guys...he has a TO, so, worst scenario, he's only one year and tradable even if just as an expiring at the TD. Given the tank opportunity that Poole had - it wouldn't shock me to see Cole blow up in the same (questionable value) way. Jett is still young but gets no PT in ORL and would get less with
more guards coming in. He could very easily become a younger, cheaper, more offensively versatile Kispert pretty quickly.

Poole, AJ Johnson, AB
Suggs, KCP, AB
Franz, TdS, Caleb
Paolo, Isaac, Moe
Goga, Moe, Isaac

*I'd be looking hard at a move with KCP...he's coming on strong and I still think he's a solid player, but ORL just shouldn't pay him so much (especially as a backup - in a more conventional backcourt rotation). AB could move up in my proposed rotation and I don't think ORL would miss a beat. If he keeps shooting it so well, that'll be an easier task (or, blasphemy) ORL could consider keeping KCP and moving Suggs for something even more substantial.

Trade #2...
ORL sends: KCP, DEN 25 frp (#25), ORL 26 frp (top 5), ORL 28 frp (top 8)
BRK sends: Cam Johnson, BRK 25 frp (#8) - ORL selects Maluach

Poole, AJ Johnson
Suggs, AB
Franz, Cam, TdS
Paolo, Cam, Isaac
Maluach, Goga, Moe

*for additional blasphemy, ORL might consider not invoking Moe's TO. Isaac is capable of 3rd string C and Cam is worthy of starter minutes at multiple positions. TdS is also too promising to move out of the rotation...alternatively, keep Moe and move Goga at the TD (by then Moe should be back). This combination of moves makes sure we're not getting into crazy financial territory - just bringing in Poole gives us 4 guys that will be making north of $30m, and Cam is a straight swap for KCP salary - but he can provide more of what we don't have offensively.

We get Poole and somehow get rid of WCJ?? Dream offseason right here! Hopefully FO takes this into consideration.

[Skybox]

ORL sends: Wendell Carter, Cole Anthony, Jett Howard, ORL 25 frp (#15)
WAS sends: Poole, AJ Johnson

Go back a year and WAS would be attaching picks. Poole is having a solid year, but that is still a BIG contract with several more years for a guy that even his biggest fans understand is a bit of a wild card. WAS, hopefully, has a great draft and, suddenly, their rebuild is off and running. They have a load of interesting prospects to sort through for a few more years and Poole is just in the way. Picking up AJ Johnson for nothing was just gravy...they've actually gotten too deep at that spot with Bub, Smart, etc and probably could thin it out a bit and focus their development. They could realistically end up with Harper or Fears, which would make moving Poole and/or AJJ even more realistic.

For WAS: WCJ is a solid player that would complement Sarr and also versatile enough to play next to him with complementary skills. Easy to forget that he's still only 25yo. Cole is actually a great locker room guy and supportive teammate that would pitch in but not get in the way of Bub and the other young guys...he has a TO, so, worst scenario, he's only one year and tradable even if just as an expiring at the TD. Given the tank opportunity that Poole had - it wouldn't shock me to see Cole blow up in the same (questionable value) way. Jett is still young but gets no PT in ORL and would get less with
more guards coming in. He could very easily become a younger, cheaper, more offensively versatile Kispert pretty quickly.

Poole, AJ Johnson, AB
Suggs, KCP, AB
Franz, TdS, Caleb
Paolo, Isaac, Moe
Goga, Moe, Isaac

*I'd be looking hard at a move with KCP...he's coming on strong and I still think he's a solid player, but ORL just shouldn't pay him so much (especially as a backup - in a more conventional backcourt rotation). AB could move up in my proposed rotation and I don't think ORL would miss a beat. If he keeps shooting it so well, that'll be an easier task (or, blasphemy) ORL could consider keeping KCP and moving Suggs for something even more substantial.

Trade #2...
ORL sends: KCP, DEN 25 frp (#25), ORL 26 frp (top 5), ORL 28 frp (top 8)
BRK sends: Cam Johnson, BRK 25 frp (#8) - ORL selects Maluach

Poole, AJ Johnson
Suggs, AB
Franz, Cam, TdS
Paolo, Cam, Isaac
Maluach, Goga, Moe

*for additional blasphemy, ORL might consider not invoking Moe's TO. Isaac is capable of 3rd string C and Cam is worthy of starter minutes at multiple positions. TdS is also too promising to move out of the rotation...alternatively, keep Moe and move Goga at the TD (by then Moe should be back). This combination of moves makes sure we're not getting into crazy financial territory - just bringing in Poole gives us 4 guys that will be making north of $30m, and Cam is a straight swap for KCP salary - but he can provide more of what we don't have offensively.

We get Poole and somehow get rid of WCJ?? Dream offseason right here! Hopefully FO takes this into consideration.

It's really getting interesting because any "adds" should also give serious consideration to the financial "subtracts" at the same time or in another move...I don't mind having WCJ around, but that extension is, to me, his fatal flaw in ORL...same with KCP - good player, not one we need for $23m when AB is showing he's another Suggs, KCP type player (and, eyriq, maybe more)

[BadMofoPimp]

Want nothing to do with low IQ poole.

[JRoy]

Two way guys only, like KCP.

[Ducklett]

Two way guys only, like KCP.

Confused at what you mean or the context to this comment? Just because people don't like Poole? Dude is a bonehead.

[orlando_joe]

Two way guys only, like KCP.

kcp has been tearing it up with his shooting and solid d as late
after waiting 3/4 of yr to finally get to play with both franz and paolo..cant wait to see him with all 3 next season when suggs is back
shooting 52% from field and 46% from 3 since break 21 games ...

[basketballRob]

ORL sends: Wendell Carter, Cole Anthony, Jett Howard, ORL 25 frp (#15)
WAS sends: Poole, AJ Johnson

Go back a year and WAS would be attaching picks. Poole is having a solid year, but that is still a BIG contract with several more years for a guy that even his biggest fans understand is a bit of a wild card. WAS, hopefully, has a great draft and, suddenly, their rebuild is off and running. They have a load of interesting prospects to sort through for a few more years and Poole is just in the way. Picking up AJ Johnson for nothing was just gravy...they've actually gotten too deep at that spot with Bub, Smart, etc and probably could thin it out a bit and focus their development. They could realistically end up with Harper or Fears, which would make moving Poole and/or AJJ even more realistic.

For WAS: WCJ is a solid player that would complement Sarr and also versatile enough to play next to him with complementary skills. Easy to forget that he's still only 25yo. Cole is actually a great locker room guy and supportive teammate that would pitch in but not get in the way of Bub and the other young guys...he has a TO, so, worst scenario, he's only one year and tradable even if just as an expiring at the TD. Given the tank opportunity that Poole had - it wouldn't shock me to see Cole blow up in the same (questionable value) way. Jett is still young but gets no PT in ORL and would get less with
more guards coming in. He could very easily become a younger, cheaper, more offensively versatile Kispert pretty quickly.

Poole, AJ Johnson, AB
Suggs, KCP, AB
Franz, TdS, Caleb
Paolo, Isaac, Moe
Goga, Moe, Isaac

*I'd be looking hard at a move with KCP...he's coming on strong and I still think he's a solid player, but ORL just shouldn't pay him so much (especially as a backup - in a more conventional backcourt rotation). AB could move up in my proposed rotation and I don't think ORL would miss a beat. If he keeps shooting it so well, that'll be an easier task (or, blasphemy) ORL could consider keeping KCP and moving Suggs for something even more substantial.

Trade #2...
ORL sends: KCP, DEN 25 frp (#25), ORL 26 frp (top 5), ORL 28 frp (top 8)
BRK sends: Cam Johnson, BRK 25 frp (#8) - ORL selects Maluach

Poole, AJ Johnson
Suggs, AB
Franz, Cam, TdS
Paolo, Cam, Isaac
Maluach, Goga, Moe

*for additional blasphemy, ORL might consider not invoking Moe's TO. Isaac is capable of 3rd string C and Cam is worthy of starter minutes at multiple positions. TdS is also too promising to move out of the rotation...alternatively, keep Moe and move Goga at the TD (by then Moe should be back). This combination of moves makes sure we're not getting into crazy financial territory - just bringing in Poole gives us 4 guys that will be making north of $30m, and Cam is a straight swap for KCP salary - but he can provide more of what we don't have offensively.

Wendell likely has more value than Poole. AJ Johnson isn't a better PG than Black. You're being very generous with picks.


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[JRoy]

Two way guys only, like KCP.

Confused at what you mean or the context to this comment? Just because people don't like Poole? Dude is a bonehead.

The focus is on acquiring two way players to match the identity of the team, like KCP.

[Ducklett]

Two way guys only, like KCP.

Confused at what you mean or the context to this comment? Just because people don't like Poole? Dude is a bonehead.

The focus is on acquiring two way players to match the identity of the team, like KCP.

I think the Magic Org would be fine with some flamethrowers even if they arent great on defense, but Poole aint the one you trade a top 20 pick for imo.

[thelead]

ORL sends: Wendell Carter, Cole Anthony, Jett Howard, ORL 25 frp (#15)
WAS sends: Poole, AJ Johnson

Go back a year and WAS would be attaching picks. Poole is having a solid year, but that is still a BIG contract with several more years for a guy that even his biggest fans understand is a bit of a wild card. WAS, hopefully, has a great draft and, suddenly, their rebuild is off and running. They have a load of interesting prospects to sort through for a few more years and Poole is just in the way. Picking up AJ Johnson for nothing was just gravy...they've actually gotten too deep at that spot with Bub, Smart, etc and probably could thin it out a bit and focus their development. They could realistically end up with Harper or Fears, which would make moving Poole and/or AJJ even more realistic.

For WAS: WCJ is a solid player that would complement Sarr and also versatile enough to play next to him with complementary skills. Easy to forget that he's still only 25yo. Cole is actually a great locker room guy and supportive teammate that would pitch in but not get in the way of Bub and the other young guys...he has a TO, so, worst scenario, he's only one year and tradable even if just as an expiring at the TD. Given the tank opportunity that Poole had - it wouldn't shock me to see Cole blow up in the same (questionable value) way. Jett is still young but gets no PT in ORL and would get less with
more guards coming in. He could very easily become a younger, cheaper, more offensively versatile Kispert pretty quickly.

Poole, AJ Johnson, AB
Suggs, KCP, AB
Franz, TdS, Caleb
Paolo, Isaac, Moe
Goga, Moe, Isaac

*I'd be looking hard at a move with KCP...he's coming on strong and I still think he's a solid player, but ORL just shouldn't pay him so much (especially as a backup - in a more conventional backcourt rotation). AB could move up in my proposed rotation and I don't think ORL would miss a beat. If he keeps shooting it so well, that'll be an easier task (or, blasphemy) ORL could consider keeping KCP and moving Suggs for something even more substantial.

Trade #2...
ORL sends: KCP, DEN 25 frp (#25), ORL 26 frp (top 5), ORL 28 frp (top 8)
BRK sends: Cam Johnson, BRK 25 frp (#8) - ORL selects Maluach

Poole, AJ Johnson
Suggs, AB
Franz, Cam, TdS
Paolo, Cam, Isaac
Maluach, Goga, Moe

*for additional blasphemy, ORL might consider not invoking Moe's TO. Isaac is capable of 3rd string C and Cam is worthy of starter minutes at multiple positions. TdS is also too promising to move out of the rotation...alternatively, keep Moe and move Goga at the TD (by then Moe should be back). This combination of moves makes sure we're not getting into crazy financial territory - just bringing in Poole gives us 4 guys that will be making north of $30m, and Cam is a straight swap for KCP salary - but he can provide more of what we don't have offensively.

Wendell likely has more value than Poole. AJ Johnson isn't a better PG than Black. You're being very generous with picks.


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I HATE Poole's game but if we can get rid of WCJ's contract, I'm making this deal (with Denver's pick though). You can always flip Poole the year after.

Go ask Skybox about how long I've been going at him for even mentioning Poole... but here we are with WCJ's contract...

[RichCollab]

Keepers

AB
Suggs
Franz
Paolo

Willing to move AB for a starting PG that fits.

Get me

Tier 1
FVV
C. White

Tier 2
Giddy

Tier 3
Monk

Add a SG like Keon Ellis or Nickell Alexander Walker

Guard rotation

FVV/AB
Suggs/ Keon Ellis

[pepe1991]

We have 11 men under contracts +
Gary Harris- team option
Mortiz Wagner- team option ( will be picked)
Joseph team option ( will now probably be picked)
Caleb Houstan


Whoever gets drafted won't have any PT any time soon. If you don't have time for second year 11th overall lottery pick nor 18th overall "nba ready" rookie, odds are, you won't have time for whoever gets drafted in 2025, because next year expetations will be way higher than be play in team.


Non-lottery selected first round pick is way more valuable to tanking team or top tear contender than middle of a road team. Nuggets pick isn't that valuable for anybody. Those late 20s picks are often burden because of guranteed salary & taking roster spot for 3 years.

[CarraT]

Two way guys only, like KCP.

Confused at what you mean or the context to this comment? Just because people don't like Poole? Dude is a bonehead.

The focus is on acquiring two way players to match the identity of the team, like KCP.

A 9ppg starter is NOT a 2 way player, he is a 3&D specialist.