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2023-2024 Regular Season Game 28: Orlando Magic (16-11) at Indiana Pacers (14-13) - 7pm

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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 28: Orlando Magic (16-11) at Indiana Pacers (14-13) - 7pm 

Post#341 » by VFX » Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:00 am

RichCollab wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:IF Goga ends up costing less than Carter contractually, THEN I’m 100% ok with moving Carter + Fultz for a guard.

You can’t play 3 Centers and can’t justify paying 3 + Isaac.

This roster also isn’t good enough offensively in the back court to spend that much money on front court players for a team that has yet to make the playoffs.


Moe and WCJ can play backup PF. JI still needs to stay healthy.

Also, if we get all 3 centers on reasonable contracts why not?


No, they can’t.

You are going to have 3 guys plus Paolo play PF? Nope.

No thanks.
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Post#342 » by thelead » Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:03 am

For all the talk about Jett not playing, Jarace Walker (8th pick) is racking up DNP-CDs. And as an aside, Hawkins is racking up DNP-CDs as well. AB playing major minutes on a top 4 eastern conference team is fairly praise worthy as is.
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Post#343 » by thelead » Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:09 am

MagicMatic wrote:
RichCollab wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:IF Goga ends up costing less than Carter contractually, THEN I’m 100% ok with moving Carter + Fultz for a guard.

You can’t play 3 Centers and can’t justify paying 3 + Isaac.

This roster also isn’t good enough offensively in the back court to spend that much money on front court players for a team that has yet to make the playoffs.


Moe and WCJ can play backup PF. JI still needs to stay healthy.

Also, if we get all 3 centers on reasonable contracts why not?


No, they can’t.

You are going to have 3 guys plus Paolo play PF? Nope.

No thanks.

+1

Paolo is playing 34 mpg. That means there’s 14 backup PF mpg. That’s enough minutes for 1 backup player. And none of those guys can slide in to take SF minutes either. So 4 guys splitting 48 center minutes and 14 backup PF minutes. That’s ~16 mpg for each player. That isn’t going to work.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 28: Orlando Magic (16-11) at Indiana Pacers (14-13) - 7pm 

Post#344 » by DiplomaticMagic » Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:45 am

I havent read the thread and Im sure its been talked about....

But did you guys see what I saw today?? How much longer are we going to gift Wendell minutes??
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Post#345 » by RookieStar » Sun Dec 24, 2023 8:44 am

DiplomaticMagic wrote:I havent read the thread and Im sure its been talked about....

But did you guys see what I saw today?? How much longer are we going to gift Wendell minutes??


Until we make him like we did AG Vuc and Fournier.... maximize his trade value when healthy and get the best return?
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Post#346 » by Message Boar » Sun Dec 24, 2023 9:04 am

Good win to get back in the win column; keeps the Pacers down in their losing mood, and that's a team who we're likely to be competing with for position by the end of the year. Hopefully Jalen will be back soon. He is a key to us actually being able to beat good teams.

Also, I'm back from vacation, so my bad about the losing, I guess. All my teams (except the Ravens with a 1-game sample size) went into a complete tailspin as soon as a I left. Not that I was paying much attention, thankfully.
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Post#347 » by pepe1991 » Sun Dec 24, 2023 10:22 am

Few hours ago, it's 4 AM, i'm piss drunk at Bachelor party, guy asks me wtf i'm watching on phone " nba, Magic, we won"

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Post#348 » by RookieStar » Sun Dec 24, 2023 11:26 am

pepe1991 wrote:Few hours ago, it's 4 AM, i'm piss drunk at Bachelor party, guy asks me wtf i'm watching on phone " nba, Magic, we won"

:lol:


Dude.... what kind if bachelor party is that that it made you watch a Magic game?
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Post#349 » by Optimus_Steel » Sun Dec 24, 2023 11:58 am

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pepe1991 wrote:Few hours ago, it's 4 AM, i'm piss drunk at Bachelor party, guy asks me wtf i'm watching on phone " nba, Magic, we won"

:lol:


Dude.... what kind if bachelor party is that that it made you watch a Magic game?




I don’t want to hear anyone say Pepe is not a real Magic fan. Dude willingly ignored bouncing jubblies for a bouncing ball.
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Post#350 » by bigdogdylan5 » Sun Dec 24, 2023 2:28 pm

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RookieStar wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:Few hours ago, it's 4 AM, i'm piss drunk at Bachelor party, guy asks me wtf i'm watching on phone " nba, Magic, we won"

:lol:


Dude.... what kind if bachelor party is that that it made you watch a Magic game?




I don’t want to hear anyone say Pepe is not a real Magic fan. Dude willingly ignored bouncing jubblies for a bouncing ball.

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Post#351 » by J the Drafter » Sun Dec 24, 2023 4:27 pm

thelead wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:
RichCollab wrote:
Moe and WCJ can play backup PF. JI still needs to stay healthy.

Also, if we get all 3 centers on reasonable contracts why not?


No, they can’t.

You are going to have 3 guys plus Paolo play PF? Nope.

No thanks.

+1

Paolo is playing 34 mpg. That means there’s 14 backup PF mpg. That’s enough minutes for 1 backup player. And none of those guys can slide in to take SF minutes either. So 4 guys splitting 48 center minutes and 14 backup PF minutes. That’s ~16 mpg for each player. That isn’t going to work.

Isaac has the quickness to play small forward, and he’s a good enough perimeter defender that he should be on swingman scoring threats. You lose ballhandling on offense, but you get Isaac’s jabstep game and postup game in return. Imo, ballhandling from the sf slot isn’t so precious that we should be entertaining trades of quality players just to keep it.
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Post#353 » by neuraldarwinism » Sun Dec 24, 2023 5:56 pm

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Post#354 » by basketballRob » Sun Dec 24, 2023 5:57 pm

Haliburton said in the post game interview that Paolo and Franz were the future of the NBA.

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Post#355 » by Optimus_Steel » Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:09 pm

basketballRob wrote:Haliburton said in the post game interview that Paolo and Franz were the future of the NBA.

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That’s high praise. WePark just got figure out how to fill out the team, add 3pt shooting and improve the guard offensive play, maintain role playing defenders.
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Post#356 » by basketballRob » Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:25 pm

At 20:45, Haliburton praises Paolo and Franz. Then he blames the refs. He did the same thing in the last game. I'm not sure if he's actually blaming the refs or saying we really can't matchup with Paolo and Franz, so we have to foul.

https://youtu.be/ndSC8kZXLLQ?feature=shared

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Post#357 » by pepe1991 » Sun Dec 24, 2023 7:00 pm

Optimus_Steel wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:Few hours ago, it's 4 AM, i'm piss drunk at Bachelor party, guy asks me wtf i'm watching on phone " nba, Magic, we won"

:lol:


Dude.... what kind if bachelor party is that that it made you watch a Magic game?




I don’t want to hear anyone say Pepe is not a real Magic fan. Dude willingly ignored bouncing jubblies for a bouncing ball.


lmao, btw after all that , in 4:30 AM guy brought us to his hostel because he wanted to , and i'm not kidding- " break some windows".
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Post#358 » by Skybox » Sun Dec 24, 2023 7:01 pm

basketballRob wrote:Haliburton said in the post game interview that Paolo and Franz were the future of the NBA.

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Anybody else get the warm fuzzies watching Mose chopping it up with Hali post-game? They seemed really tight - apparently, from the national team experience.

Maybe the future of the NBA is Paolo, Franz & HALIBURTON :o
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Post#359 » by VFX » Sun Dec 24, 2023 7:09 pm

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MagicMatic wrote:
No, they can’t.

You are going to have 3 guys plus Paolo play PF? Nope.

No thanks.

+1

Paolo is playing 34 mpg. That means there’s 14 backup PF mpg. That’s enough minutes for 1 backup player. And none of those guys can slide in to take SF minutes either. So 4 guys splitting 48 center minutes and 14 backup PF minutes. That’s ~16 mpg for each player. That isn’t going to work.

Isaac has the quickness to play small forward, and he’s a good enough perimeter defender that he should be on swingman scoring threats. You lose ballhandling on offense, but you get Isaac’s jabstep game and postup game in return. Imo, ballhandling from the sf slot isn’t so precious that we should be entertaining trades of quality players just to keep it.


It literally doesn’t matter what position you think JI is playing. Paolo is playing the majority of games, and when he is you can bet most of the time he is playing next to a true Center whether that’s Carter, Goga, or Moe.

Last time I checked Isaac hasn’t started once this season or played consistently more than 20mpg, so the position debate doesn’t really matter much. He’s been relegated to defending other teams best player or attempting jumpers at a low volume.

He’s basically inconsequential to lineup arguments about Centers entirely because he’s situational and there are 3 on the roster needing minutes. You can start making that argument when there are only 2 on the roster and Isaac starts filling in. He isn’t and that’s not the case.

These are the arguments people had with AG starting at SG with Isaac at SF. Completely inconsequential nonsense that we never saw happen. Franz and Paolo are getting the lions share of minutes regardless and Suggs is going nowhere anytime soon from the starting lineup. With Anthony Black and Jett being selected you can guarantee nobody in the front office plans on Isaac being in the starting lineup.
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Post#360 » by thelead » Sun Dec 24, 2023 7:14 pm

Skybox wrote:
basketballRob wrote:Haliburton said in the post game interview that Paolo and Franz were the future of the NBA.

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Anybody else get the warm fuzzies watching Mose chopping it up with Hali post-game? They seemed really tight - apparently, from the national team experience.

Maybe the future of the NBA is Paolo, Franz & HALIBURTON :o

Hali would be the dream
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