Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part VIII)

MagicMan89 · Post #361 » by **MagicMan89** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:25 am

pogiro wrote:You guys get way to affected by sources. Unless I hear it from Dwight, Alex, or Otis, I'm not believing anything.

I trust Yahoo sports, they are good about what they report.

Post #362 » by **Def Swami** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:25 am

Talks between the Magic and Nets reached the ownership level before Otis Smith began to inform teams that Dwight Howard had been removed from trade consideration.

Howard told teammates on Tuesday that he thought the trade to the Nets was a “done deal,” a league source told Y! Sports. Twenty-four hours later on Wednesday, Howard told them he was under the impression that “ownership killed it,” the source said.
Via Adrian Wojnarowski/Yahoo! Sports

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/21 ... z1gZAat1gX

What does "ownership level" mean? This whole story doesn't make sense.

The-Dawson · Post #363 » by **The-Dawson** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:26 am

If we were to get Pau we wouldnt need to trade him to Houston then be stuck with Martin J Rich JJ all the same type of players we would need to trade Pau for a top 3 pick

ADRajX · Post #364 » by **ADRajX** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:26 am

Nemesis21 wrote:KBergCBS Ken Berger
David Stern and Hornets leadership will speak with media on conference call at 9:45 p.m. ET.

thank god that trade is over and done with... now the league can focus on other things

sonny_1313 · Post #365 » by **sonny_1313** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:26 am

Nemesis21 wrote:
pogiro wrote:You guys get way to affected by sources. Unless I hear it from Dwight, Alex, or Otis, I'm not believing anything.

THIS!

Pretty much. Every deal the Magic have made in the past few years have come out of nowhere.

pokerfan12 · Post #366 » by **pokerfan12** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:26 am

THE LIFE OF A MAGIC FAN IS THAT OF TURMOIL AND UNEASYNESS... THAT BEING SAID WE KNOW WHAT LOYALTY MEANS EVEN THOUGH OUR PLAYERS DON'T.

arsenal6106 · Post #367 » by **arsenal6106** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:26 am

My doctor said it's not healthy for me to view this thread anymore. Then he prescribed me depression medication for when Dwight leaves

pokerfan12 · Post #368 » by **pokerfan12** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:27 am

THE LIFE OF A MAGIC FAN IS THAT OF TURMOIL AND UNEASYNESS... THAT BEING SAID WE KNOW WHAT LOYALTY MEANS EVEN THOUGH OUR PLAYERS DON'T.

ADRajX · Post #369 » by **ADRajX** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:27 am

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Unreal. The NBA is making Dell Demps talk on a conference call with David Stern tonight. Just unreal.

I feel so bad for Demps... maybe he'd like to be our GM... let's do a Demps for Otis swap

Blue_and_Whte · Post #370 » by **Blue_and_Whte** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:27 am

sonny_1313 wrote:
Nemesis21 wrote:
pogiro wrote:You guys get way to affected by sources. Unless I hear it from Dwight, Alex, or Otis, I'm not believing anything.

THIS!

Pretty much. Every deal the Magic have made in the past few years have come out of nowhere.

+1

pogiro · Post #371 » by **pogiro** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:27 am

Fact of the matter is, the Magic don't have much to gain by trading him now. I think they gain the most by holding on to him. The new CBA makes it a lot harder for him to leave in the summer if we have him still. I don't think people are seeing what kind of decision and options he'll have if he's still here. I've already made a lengthy post about it and no one responded, but I really think you gotta take a look at the CBA changes and see what kind of situation he'll be forced and the pros and cons of staying or leaving. In my eyes, if we keep him til summer, the best decision he can make for himself is opt-in one more year.

There's very little reason to trade him right now. So people whining that they can't take it anymore, strap in, because this SHOULD go all season.

ADRajX · Post #372 » by **ADRajX** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:27 am

pokerfan12 wrote:THE LIFE OF A MAGIC FAN IS THAT OF TURMOIL AND UNEASYNESS... THAT BEING SAID WE KNOW WHAT LOYALTY MEANS EVEN THOUGH OUR PLAYERS DON'T.

+1

Blue_and_Whte · Post #373 » by **Blue_and_Whte** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:27 am

pokerfan12 wrote:THE LIFE OF A MAGIC FAN IS THAT OF TURMOIL AND UNEASYNESS... THAT BEING SAID WE KNOW WHAT LOYALTY MEANS EVEN THOUGH OUR PLAYERS DON'T.

+1,000

J-Mezzy · Post #374 » by **J-Mezzy** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:28 am

Nemesis21 wrote:
TSKD000 wrote:I'm ready to roll with...

Jameer, Dragic
JRich, JJ
KMart, Q
Scola, Anderson
Bynum, BBD

Make it happen Otis! Lol

Why? That was what NO was going to get for Paul and everyone thought it was a fair deal. As a matter of fact, the Hornets were getting a player of lesser caliber in Odom rather than Bynum.

The Magic would get Kevin Martin (legit scorer), Scola (legit PF), and Bynum (potential all star) for Dwight. We would also get rid of Hedo's contract. Name me a better deal?

pogiro · Post #375 » by **pogiro** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:28 am

sonny_1313 wrote:
Nemesis21 wrote:
pogiro wrote:You guys get way to affected by sources. Unless I hear it from Dwight, Alex, or Otis, I'm not believing anything.

THIS!

Pretty much. Every deal the Magic have made in the past few years have come out of nowhere.

Exactly, so why should that change now? In my eyes, as a fan who wants to hold on to Dwight til summer, no news is good news.

Nemesis21 · Post #376 » by **Nemesis21** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:28 am

arsenal6106 wrote:My doctor said it's not healthy for me to view this thread anymore. Then he prescribed me depression medication for when Dwight leaves

Tcarl67 · Post #377 » by **Tcarl67** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:29 am

DJRajX wrote:
Nemesis21 wrote:KBergCBS Ken Berger
David Stern and Hornets leadership will speak with media on conference call at 9:45 p.m. ET.

thank god that trade is over and done with... now the league can focus on other things

And now that it is..... hold on tight for a ride of your life. Shitezu is gonna hit the fan now.

Coach_McGuirk · Post #378 » by **Coach_McGuirk** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:29 am

Man cant believe CP3 pulls in that much stuff. Too bad Howard holds us hostage...

davngab · Post #379 » by **davngab** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:29 am

NickAnderson wrote:
Howard has warned the Magic if they don’t move him by the March 15 trade deadline, they’ll lose him for nothing in free agency. Howard told the Magic again on Tuesday that he wanted a trade, a league source said.

aka I want the most money I can get and still **** on Orlando. If this is true **** this POS. Call his bluff let him walk and lose millions, selfish baby he is.

This.

He's acting like a punk... i'd let him walk, lose millions and build from the bottom up. I can handle being bottom feeders for some good picks. I can't handle letting him get everything he wants while we're just mediocre/s*** for years and years to come

Tayswagzzz · Post #380 » by **Tayswagzzz** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:31 am

Honestly guys, are you really going to believe this crap? Like someone said above, this twitter "sources" say this crap is getting to be ridiculous. How many people would like to see the magic succeed out there? They'd much rather report things regarding Howard joining up with another superstar, Hell, everyone at ESPN despises us except for Jalen Rose and Charles Barkley. As far as we know, what's truly been said, is we want to keep Howard and Howard loves Orlando and he wants to stay given some changes with culture and his relationship with management.

It's not the end of the world if Woj wants to spread some gossip about overhearing teammates saying Dwight told them "the Nets was a done deal". Like others have said, unless you hear it from Otis/Martins/ or Dwight, don't believe it. I am getting tired of twitter spreading rumors.