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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XIV: Trade Deadline cont 

Post#361 » by NW » Mon Mar 5, 2012 1:31 am

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NW wrote:I'd be one of them. What I don't think Magic fans understand is the Warriors like Ellis and don't want to deal him unless it leads to a major upgrade at the Five (the team's biggest hole). Kaman isn't it and he's a FA anyway. The Warriors don't need bench help - outside of a better PG than Nate Robinson (as Curry's time out has made it clear how bad this team needs a decent PG). If you could get Bogut, that may do it.


What I don't get is why GS isn't afraid of losing Monta in free agency but would also only trade him for an all star. I just don't get how much value a non all star like Monta has to GSW fans. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not sure we have what you guys need (hence my hatred for Otis) but Monta's value to the GSW fans and owner is mind boggling.


Still got his Bird rights and he's happy being a Warrior. Don't think management's value of Monta is unrealistic-they won't do an addition by subtraction deal with him. Which means equal value or better has to come back. It's why Monta rumors from the Warriors side have been him for an equal talent (Igudola or Granger) or in a package for a better one (Howard, Aldridge)
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Post#362 » by JarethCutestory » Mon Mar 5, 2012 1:31 am

Evan turner is a name we should go after
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Post#363 » by The Real Dalic » Mon Mar 5, 2012 1:32 am

thelead wrote:Deron, by the way, has 51 pts with 3 minutes to go.

yep, but he went to the line almost 20 times... that, to me, looks like the refs are helping him.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XIV: Trade Deadline cont 

Post#364 » by The Real Dalic » Mon Mar 5, 2012 1:32 am

JarethCutestory wrote:Evan turner is a name we should go after

You make fun of people that want Blatche, then you say you want Evan Turner? he hasn't even done anything...
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Post#365 » by Orlando Prodigy » Mon Mar 5, 2012 1:33 am

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SEBAS-07 wrote:Sorry but I`m not trading Nelson, Jason Richardson and Ryan Anderson for Monta Ellis.


Monta > Nelson at point guard.
JJ/Wafer might be > J-Rich/JJ.
Getting Lee might be > Anderson come playoff time.

Are you saying there are talks about GS shedding Lee's contract on us?


It's a possibility. He has a huge contract. Would it be better for them to take Anderson? I guess we'll see.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XIV: Trade Deadline cont 

Post#366 » by Def Swami » Mon Mar 5, 2012 1:33 am

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Post#367 » by SEBAS-07 » Mon Mar 5, 2012 1:35 am

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SEBAS-07 wrote:David Lee and his $68,737,680 owned till 2015/2016, this guy is allergic to playing defense, he has only put numbers on bad teams( NYK and Golden State)

He's never been on a good team, so, how do you know if he'll drop off if he joined us?


First let`s analyse the pace of the teams he has played, when he was on the Knicks they played at an incredible pace and he was their best player(more touches). The Warriors are also a fast paced team, meanwhile Orlando plays at a slower pace, all of our plays are sets involving Dwight Howard(spacing by the Power Forward is really important).
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Post#368 » by NW » Mon Mar 5, 2012 1:36 am

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It's a possibility. He has a huge contract. Would it be better for them to take Anderson? I guess we'll see.


No. Have to pay Anderson at season's end so the salary difference is only good for the rest of the year
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Post#369 » by akhenaten » Mon Mar 5, 2012 1:38 am

Pretty pathetic that no combination of Magic players would even begin to entice the Warriors to part with a non-All-Star. That's how bad Otis has f'ed this team.
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Post#370 » by JarethCutestory » Mon Mar 5, 2012 1:39 am

Turner is young, can play 3 positions, and reminds of TMac.
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Post#371 » by The Real Dalic » Mon Mar 5, 2012 1:40 am

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It's a possibility. He has a huge contract. Would it be better for them to take Anderson? I guess we'll see.


No. Have to pay Anderson at season's end so the salary difference is only good for the rest of the year

People are acting like Anderson is gonna get like 15mil a year for 5 years.... it's probably only going to be about 8-9 million for 4 years.... Lee is getting like 12mil per right? and he has 5 years left on his contract. so yes, GSW would be better off with Ryan...
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XIV: Trade Deadline cont 

Post#372 » by The Real Dalic » Mon Mar 5, 2012 1:40 am

akhenaten wrote:Pretty pathetic that no combination of Magic players would even begin to entice the Warriors to part with a non-All-Star. That's how bad Otis has f'ed this team.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XIV: Trade Deadline cont 

Post#373 » by InFlames » Mon Mar 5, 2012 1:41 am

I absolutely do not want Blatche on this team.
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Post#374 » by magician09 » Mon Mar 5, 2012 1:41 am

JarethCutestory wrote:Turner is young, can play 3 positions, and reminds of TMac.


Yes please!
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Post#375 » by thelead » Mon Mar 5, 2012 1:41 am

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NW wrote:I'd be one of them. What I don't think Magic fans understand is the Warriors like Ellis and don't want to deal him unless it leads to a major upgrade at the Five (the team's biggest hole). Kaman isn't it and he's a FA anyway. The Warriors don't need bench help - outside of a better PG than Nate Robinson (as Curry's time out has made it clear how bad this team needs a decent PG). If you could get Bogut, that may do it.


What I don't get is why GS isn't afraid of losing Monta in free agency but would also only trade him for an all star. I just don't get how much value a non all star like Monta has to GSW fans. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not sure we have what you guys need (hence my hatred for Otis) but Monta's value to the GSW fans and owner is mind boggling.


Still got his Bird rights and he's happy being a Warrior. Don't think management's value of Monta is unrealistic-they won't do an addition by subtraction deal with him. Which means equal value or better has to come back. It's why Monta rumors from the Warriors side have been him for an equal talent (Igudola or Granger) or in a package for a better one (Howard, Aldridge)


I hear ya, I just don't think you'll get that much for him. I also think you guys have a big chance of losing him in free agency considering your team seems more committed to another pg.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XIV: Trade Deadline cont 

Post#376 » by Orlando Prodigy » Mon Mar 5, 2012 1:41 am

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It's a possibility. He has a huge contract. Would it be better for them to take Anderson? I guess we'll see.


No. Have to pay Anderson at season's end so the salary difference is only good for the rest of the year


Will Anderson's contract be as much as Lee's? Would they rather have Monta/Lee or a good center/Anderson?
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Post#377 » by The Real Dalic » Mon Mar 5, 2012 1:42 am

JarethCutestory wrote:Turner is young, can play 3 positions, and reminds of TMac.

He hasn't shown the ability to be compared to TMac IMO. but, I wouldn't mind Evan Turner here either. just wanted to point what you said out.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XIV: Trade Deadline cont 

Post#378 » by RickB-Orlando » Mon Mar 5, 2012 1:42 am

SEBAS-07 wrote:Sorry but I`m not trading Nelson, Jason Richardson and Ryan Anderson for Monta Ellis.

Really? If that deal guaranteed Dwight resigns this summer, you wouldn't do that deal?

If that would lock Dwight in, I'd do that right now without hesitation.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XIV: Trade Deadline cont 

Post#379 » by NW » Mon Mar 5, 2012 1:44 am

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It's a possibility. He has a huge contract. Would it be better for them to take Anderson? I guess we'll see.


No. Have to pay Anderson at season's end so the salary difference is only good for the rest of the year

People are acting like Anderson is gonna get like 15mil a year for 5 years.... it's probably only going to be about 8-9 million for 4 years.... Lee is getting like 12mil per right? and he has 5 years left on his contract. so yes, GSW would be better off with Ryan...


Not rally considering the Warriors are getting good play out of Lee, have around $10 mil in cap space this summer and like Lee. So why trade him for a similar player? Even with a difference in contracts?
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XIV: Trade Deadline cont 

Post#380 » by thelead » Mon Mar 5, 2012 1:45 am

Deron finishes with 57 points
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