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Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Edition)

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#361 » by Nemesis21 » Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:56 pm

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#362 » by vinageras » Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:09 pm

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OrlandO wrote:I don't know if Brooks is a good fit, but he's definitely a classy coach... that speech he gave the Thunder in the timeout at the end of the game was great. Made sure his players didn't act bitter and went over to shake hands when the buzzer sounded.


that was his best coaching of the series


I wonder if they would consider the other Van Gundy (Stan) if things fall through with Brooks. I mean he could teach them how to play D which would fix half their problems. The other half in terms of running plays I think he could help with too being he loves the pick n roll.


LOL, imagine Stan yelling at and yanking Russell Westbrook's ass
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#363 » by blue and white » Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:35 pm

Kind of rude if you ask me. He has every right to post those tweets. I post a lot of stuff from Evan Dunlap from OPP. That doest mean I'm Evan

well IF he is magical its kind of like spamming his stuff here also evan is a legit source where magical is not, hes just a real gm'er who passes his ideas as rumors on twitter
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#364 » by Nyce_1 » Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:46 pm

These videos made me fall in love with Malone.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dHpNoBOQ3U[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnSu7BX2iEQ&feature=related[/youtube]
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#365 » by arsenal6106 » Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:46 pm

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Kind of rude if you ask me. He has every right to post those tweets. I post a lot of stuff from Evan Dunlap from OPP. That doest mean I'm Evan

well IF he is magical its kind of like spamming his stuff here also evan is a legit source where magical is not, hes just a real gm'er who passes his ideas as rumors on twitter


I'm aware of that, but you don't have any proof that he's really magical. Well IF I'm Evan Dunlap, then I'm spamming also. It doesn't matter how legitimate you find the source. Personally, I don't think he's posting that many magical tweets. Plus, it's not like he created whole new thread just for those tweets.

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#366 » by CPBalla2003 n da 863 » Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:14 pm

I wouldn't mind Malone honestly.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#367 » by Nemesis21 » Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:16 pm

CPBalla2003 n da 863 wrote:I wouldn't mind Malone honestly.



Shaw or Malone, and I'm good.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#368 » by Nyce_1 » Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:26 pm

Malone, with his dad and Clifford on the bench would be very solid. He's SVG meets Carlisle.

I do think Shaw's championship experience gives him the edge. Gonna be interesting to see how it plays out after the interviews.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#369 » by thelead » Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:38 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:Malone, with his dad and Clifford on the bench would be very solid. He's SVG meets Carlisle.

I do think Shaw's championship experience gives him the edge. Gonna be interesting to see how it plays out after the interviews.


I don't want ANY lingering pieces from last year. Brendan included (even though he's a good coach).
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#370 » by Nyce_1 » Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:47 pm

thelead wrote:
Nyce_1 wrote:Malone, with his dad and Clifford on the bench would be very solid. He's SVG meets Carlisle.

I do think Shaw's championship experience gives him the edge. Gonna be interesting to see how it plays out after the interviews.


I don't want ANY lingering pieces from last year. Brendan included (even though he's a good coach).

Why? Our staff was tops in the league; just a head coach who couldn't keep his mouth shut or develop young talent and continuously played players that couldn't get it done.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#371 » by thelead » Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:50 pm

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thelead wrote:
Nyce_1 wrote:Malone, with his dad and Clifford on the bench would be very solid. He's SVG meets Carlisle.

I do think Shaw's championship experience gives him the edge. Gonna be interesting to see how it plays out after the interviews.


I don't want ANY lingering pieces from last year. Brendan included (even though he's a good coach).

Why? Our staff was tops in the league; just a head coach who couldn't keep his mouth shut or develop young talent and continuously played players that couldn't get it done.


Let me rephrase:

I don't want ANY lingering pieces from last year if we keep Dwight. Brendan included (even though he's a good coach).
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#372 » by kman1023 » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:00 pm

Could anyone post Brian Shaw resume or Malone resume?
Personally, I'd take those two over McMillan
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#373 » by DiplomaticMagic » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:02 pm

I do think Malone can be a quality coach, I just find it weird that the coach we're gonna replace SVG with is his assistant coach's son. When you say it like that, it doesn't sound like an upgrade lol.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#374 » by Skin » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:45 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:These videos made me fall in love with Malone.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dHpNoBOQ3U[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnSu7BX2iEQ&feature=related[/youtube]

They actually made me fall in love with him to! Thanks for sharing that! I had real question marks about him, but he seems like a great candidate to fill our post.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#375 » by thelead » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:52 pm

Skin wrote:
Nyce_1 wrote:These videos made me fall in love with Malone.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dHpNoBOQ3U[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnSu7BX2iEQ&feature=related[/youtube]

They actually made me fall in love with him to! Thanks for sharing that! I had real question marks about him, but he seems like a great candidate to fill our post.


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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#376 » by The Effect » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:53 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:These videos made me fall in love with Malone.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dHpNoBOQ3U[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnSu7BX2iEQ&feature=related[/youtube]

He became my top choice about a month ago when i saw that first video, hadnt seen the 2nd one, but hes still my top choice and i hope we hire him soon. Wouldnt complain about Shaw or Brooks (if he leave OKC) but am hoping for malone
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Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Edition) 

Post#377 » by MagicTownBaller » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:59 pm

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The deal : D12 alienated ownership by staying in LA. This was not needed, he left the team in the playoffs. This is why they dont call him..

@MagicalNBA
That being said, they want D12 back if he buys in and becomes a leader. He has no respect currently in the magic org. He can change that

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Rob could meet w/ dwight and decide HE does not want D12 on this team, not vice versa.

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If D12 buys in, the Magic could build a team that contends with heat in 1-2 years. D12 is the guy who makes LBJ and Wade shoot Jumpers.

@MagicalNBA
The Magic could become the most athletic team in the NBA w/in 2 years if Dwight stays. No one can run w/ him at C.


From our favorite Magical. I know we usually don't post his stuff here but he has been right on multiple occasions and at the very least, gives us some rumors to talk about. He called the Otis Smith "re-signing" and called that we were going to go hard at Monta Ellis at last years deadline.

you seem to post his stuff here alot if im not mistaken so im gonna assume your magical and will ask for you to stop with the posting of your fake news and rumors here

Because I actually believe he has some credibility. That was just uncalled for though.
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Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Edition) 

Post#378 » by MagicTownBaller » Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:01 am

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blue and white wrote:
Kind of rude if you ask me. He has every right to post those tweets. I post a lot of stuff from Evan Dunlap from OPP. That doest mean I'm Evan

well IF he is magical its kind of like spamming his stuff here also evan is a legit source where magical is not, hes just a real gm'er who passes his ideas as rumors on twitter


I'm aware of that, but you don't have any proof that he's really magical. Well IF I'm Evan Dunlap, then I'm spamming also. It doesn't matter how legitimate you find the source. Personally, I don't think he's posting that many magical tweets. Plus, it's not like he created whole new thread just for those tweets.

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#379 » by ADRajX » Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:18 am

Malone seems legit... I'm starting to like this guy

Get me Malone or Shaw, and I'll be happy :)
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#380 » by Bensational » Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:21 am

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The deal : D12 alienated ownership by staying in LA. This was not needed, he left the team in the playoffs. This is why they dont call him..

@MagicalNBA
That being said, they want D12 back if he buys in and becomes a leader. He has no respect currently in the magic org. He can change that

@MagicalNBA
Rob could meet w/ dwight and decide HE does not want D12 on this team, not vice versa.

@MagicalNBA
If D12 buys in, the Magic could build a team that contends with heat in 1-2 years. D12 is the guy who makes LBJ and Wade shoot Jumpers.

@MagicalNBA
The Magic could become the most athletic team in the NBA w/in 2 years if Dwight stays. No one can run w/ him at C.


From our favorite Magical. I know we usually don't post his stuff here but he has been right on multiple occasions and at the very least, gives us some rumors to talk about. He called the Otis Smith "re-signing" and called that we were going to go hard at Monta Ellis at last years deadline.

He has had his moments, like Ping.

In regards to the D12 situation, every time Alex speaks on it, I get the vibe that he's not very fond of Dwight, and he has reason to not be. D12 didn't approach any part of last season as professionally as he could have. I wouldn't doubt that after the incident with Stan that D12 let his emotions let loose and govern his actions toward the team. D12 still has a lot to learn about being a leader and he's capable of taking those steps, like Lebron did. But throwing some teammates under the bus and talking in the media about wanting to play here and there were things he could have done without.

I think both sides, ownership/management and Dwight, could and should have done things differently. D12 isn't to blame for the turmoil that occurred all last season. While his reactions at times were rash, his premises were just. The roster sucked and Otis was incapable of putting "dogs" around Dwight, ownership took their time to recognize that, and Stan had to go public. I had similar gripes as Dwight and ownership/management just weren't coming through.

Bringing a guy like Henny (the new nickname must stick btw) in, who comes from teams with leaders like Duncan and Durant, I think he wants his best player to exude exceptional leadership qualities. I think in his meet with Dwight he'll get a sense of if Dwight possesses those or if not and it'll be taken into consideration. In addition, I think Henny can help Dwight become that leader too. As a guy who has been preaching player development, I think it's an aspect of Dwight's game that could improve, and as a guy very conscious of his image, I think Henny can sell Dwight on rebuilding it in ORL as opposed to anywhere else.

But at the same time, I think I can sort of understand Alex and the DeVos's when they make their hard stance when they say extend or get dealt so quickly. It sounds like there's a lot of bad blood between the sides and neither side at this point would lose sleep over both parting ways.


well said, that's pretty much how i'm feeling it right now.

I still feel like the franchise were the ones to set the tone for everything playing out in the media, and even if they weren't, they certainly should have been the ones setting the example, not stooping to that level. Alex and the DeVos' should have acknowledged that sooner. Most of all, it really pisses me off that when the whole "Dwight wants Stan fired" bs played out that Alex Martins was "on a cruise" and nobody was policing it. I think that was the straw that probably broke the camel's (Dwight's) back, and like you said, I'd imagine Dwight just called it a night after that and stonewalled the team. Had someone of some level of authority stepped in and silenced the matter, even if it required a lie, then we could have kept all this on the down-low, especially if it was already strongly on the cards that Stan was going to be fired anyway.

if the franchise wants to take the high road and question Dwight's character and leadership, then they only need to look at themselves first, and the leadership that they've been providing, if they're looking to blame someone. that said, Dwight's not a leader, and he's blatantly got a lot of growing up to do. hopefully Hennigan can start putting him on the right path and we can see a real transformation in the guy. hopefully.

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