The 2022 NBA Draft Thread

[tiderulz]

fair question. I thought it was leaning our way a bit, not our 1st rd pick this summer. I'd give them our 2nd this summer, and Chi or Den plus our 2023, top 3 protected though. (may be a lot, but you got to spend some capital to get quality back)

1. win now mode.
2. WCJ is probably better for them and is locked up for a few years at a great price, they don't have to worry about re-signing Wiseman
3. Ross comes off the books after this year, tax payer $$ makes it a bigger savings
4. Not only $$ savings, it cleared 1 roster spot now, and another when Ross comes off,

so they are in win now mode. But a GM also has to look at the future. Ross isnt a future piece. WCJ is young, but unproven and major injury risk/history. Wiseman only in his 2nd year, Moody and Kuminga rookies. This would be bad asset management for GS. GS with their current team is #1 in the league, while they are developing their rookies. and Klay about to come back

Here is where you say MAJOR.

i see. i dont think he has a major injury, but someone who has not shown to stay healthy every year so far, it is a risk

[Skybox]

so they are in win now mode. But a GM also has to look at the future. Ross isnt a future piece. WCJ is young, but unproven and major injury risk/history. Wiseman only in his 2nd year, Moody and Kuminga rookies. This would be bad asset management for GS. GS with their current team is #1 in the league, while they are developing their rookies. and Klay about to come back

I get the GM role of future planning. But having these guys all due paydays will for sure still paying Curry and possibly Klay most likely won't happen.
So, as GM you have to plan on rebuild when Curry/Klay leave, not now.
the picks we could give them in 23, 24 & 25 would line up better with that rebuild.
WCJ hasn't had major injury issues, He's had injury issues in his 1st 2 years, but they weren't Magic level player issues.
WCJ's contract has to be considered one of the best in the NBA, his 2025-26 year(, he'll be 27 making only $10M.

Anyway, this was more of a thought about using WCJ as maybe our best trade chip.

I think your financial analysis has some real merit and WCJ is the kind of guy they could use TODAY (there aren't many-they are awesome) and tomorrow. I think Kuminga still has tremendous value/upside and Wiseman might already be a negative (I'm really not sure about him). Moody can't get on the court...GSW has to consider those pending paydays without compromising the 2 or 3 year window that is WIDE open right now. I'd say they are favorites to win it all, but not overwhelmingly so...your trade would help but it's really hard to say how they value Kuminga, Moody, and, especially Wiseman. No question that we'd have to add at least one of our traded-for picks, maybe more and, at that point, it gets dicey for us. I'd do it, but I wouldn't include our own '22 or '23 frp...I don't know if GSW would...some tricky evaluations in this one, but that's why they get the big bucks (or fired ). Personally, I'm high on Kuminga and not too excited about this draft class, so I'm listening at the very least.

On further reflection (and research), I would trade WCJ, Ross, AND our '22 frp (unprotected, if necessary) for those two monsters - Kuminga & Wiseman...Moody would be cherry on top. AND, GSW would say no.

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[thelead]

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His stats are crazy but anytime I watch film of him, I just can't see him being a star.

[Xatticus]

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I like him a lot. He’s really old for a sophomore, but he is very skilled. I love his off-ball movement. He just knows how to find space. He’s very efficient with his movement. The finishing looks great. I think he will score a lot of points in the NBA and make it look easy. If I’m a point guard, I want him on the floor with me.

He looks like a tweener with average athleticism, but he has very good instincts and very good hand-eye coordination.

[Knightro]

Johnny Davis (17th on Tankathon) had a MONSTER game against Jaden Ivey tonight.

37 PTS, 14 REB, 3 AST, 2 STL, 2 BLK, 13-24 FG.

Ivey was fine. Another 2-5 from 3PT. He's now 30-67 on the season (.448).

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The Magic could really use a scoring 2 guard.

They need to be in consideration with Ivey.

[Strayanmagicfan]

Not going to try predict the front office but my bet is they want Chet (real Hammond high upside pick). If that happens then it will be the end for Mo

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[basketballRob]

I haven't watched Mathurin play much but he seems to have a nice size for an SG. I think he's around 6'7" with a 6'10" wingspan

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I like him a lot. He’s really old for a sophomore, but he is very skilled. I love his off-ball movement. He just knows how to find space. He’s very efficient with his movement. The finishing looks great. I think he will score a lot of points in the NBA and make it look easy. If I’m a point guard, I want him on the floor with me.

He looks like a tweener with average athleticism, but he has very good instincts and very good hand-eye coordination.

I have a lot of faith in Mike Schmitz' analysis vs. the rest of the press

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I like him a lot. He’s really old for a sophomore, but he is very skilled. I love his off-ball movement. He just knows how to find space. He’s very efficient with his movement. The finishing looks great. I think he will score a lot of points in the NBA and make it look easy. If I’m a point guard, I want him on the floor with me.

He looks like a tweener with average athleticism, but he has very good instincts and very good hand-eye coordination.

I have a lot of faith in Mike Schmitz' analysis vs. the rest of the press

Haven't watched him much either, but his numbers remind me of TJ Warren at NC State.

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[Xatticus]

I like him a lot. He’s really old for a sophomore, but he is very skilled. I love his off-ball movement. He just knows how to find space. He’s very efficient with his movement. The finishing looks great. I think he will score a lot of points in the NBA and make it look easy. If I’m a point guard, I want him on the floor with me.

He looks like a tweener with average athleticism, but he has very good instincts and very good hand-eye coordination.

I have a lot of faith in Mike Schmitz' analysis vs. the rest of the press

Haven't watched him much either, but his numbers remind me of TJ Warren at NC State.

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That was the first name that popped into my head as well, but I didn't want to mention it. We would all view Warren very differently if not for the injuries though.

I'd also compare him to guys like John Collins or Domantas Sabonis, not for stylistic reasons, but just because it is going to work in one way or another. Those were guys that piled up numbers in college but they were overlooked for various reasons. Murray will get knocked for his age, his sketchy long-distance shooting, and his overreliance on physicality at the rim, which won't translate as well to the NBA. You can find reasons not to like him if you look for them, but I don't see him as a guy that is going to struggle to find his way in the NBA. I see too much skill and intuition for that to happen.

[OrlChamps2030]

I haven't watched Mathurin play much but he seems to have a nice size for an SG. I think he's around 6'7" with a 6'10" wingspan

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Mathurin is an interesting prospect but there’s just no way he’s 6”7

But he has a great shot and can really get up. I’ve noticed in highlights he looks really active on the boards too. He looks like he has a nice floor, just one of those guys you know will be solid.

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I have a lot of faith in Mike Schmitz' analysis vs. the rest of the press

Haven't watched him much either, but his numbers remind me of TJ Warren at NC State.

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That was the first name that popped into my head as well, but I didn't want to mention it. We would all view Warren very differently if not for the injuries though.

I'd also compare him to guys like John Collins or Domantas Sabonis, not for stylistic reasons, but just because it is going to work in one way or another. Those were guys that piled up numbers in college but they were overlooked for various reasons. Murray will get knocked for his age, his sketchy long-distance shooting, and his overreliance on physicality at the rim, which won't translate as well to the NBA. You can find reasons not to like him if you look for them, but I don't see him as a guy that is going to struggle to find his way in the NBA. I see too much skill and intuition for that to happen.

It's very early, but this guy and Baldwin are really enticing as potential trade down as part of a bigger deal types for us.

[Petre1978]

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Slower start, then gets going... scores 21 in the last 12 min. shows the good and the bad. I'd say mostly good. 37/14

of note:
1:40 block/ hustle
1:50 pass
5:25 pass
5:55 turnover/recover/block
6:08 crossover 3
8:00 steal

I like his game. He's the type of player I trust taking in the top 5.

He really beat Ivey in this matchup.
Davis has been awesome in all Big 10 conference matcups.

[KillMonger]

If we decide to go big it may be unpopular but i still like holmgren....in that scenario bamba is gone, chet comes right in and gives you the rim protection and the 3's but he's more skilled imo...

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[Petre1978]

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2. Orlando Magic: Jabari Smith (Auburn, PF, Freshman)

The Orlando Magic are in position to pair stud rookie Franz Wagner with another star forward.

Jabari Smith has scouts picturing a potential No. 1 pick with his 6'10" size, 42.9 percent three-point shooting, dribble-jumper flashes, transition ball-handling and 1.7 steals per game.

A full year younger than Chet Holmgren, the Auburn freshman is averaging 16.2 points while burying defenses with high-release shooting and shot-making versatility.
He's hit 15 half-court pull-ups in 13 games, plus a handful more in transition after bringing the ball up.

If there is a concern with Smith, it's his 46.0 two-point percentage and 53.8 percent clip at the rim, numbers that reflect a need to be stronger and tighter with the ball while creating and finishing.

But it's not alarming enough for an 18-year-old with his body, production, perimeter game, passing, defensive foot speed and reputable character.   


32. Orlando Magic: Aminu Mohammed (Georgetown, SG, Freshman)

Sleeping on Mohammed

Scouts are still trying to get a read on Mohammed, but it's tough to ignore his production for a 6'5", 210-pound freshman guard.

Averaging 14.6 points, 8.7 rebounds and 1.5 steals per game, he mixes physical scoring, crafty shot-making and capable three-point shooting (9-of-23).

Questions over his athleticism, limited three-point volume and creation could make it difficult for him to rise too high.
However, with an NBA body for finishing and defending, and three-level scoring flashes, teams could see a pro.


37. Orlando Magic (via Pacers): Julian Champagnie (St. John's, SF/PF, Junior)

[The Effect]

If we decide to go big it may be unpopular but i still like holmgren....in that scenario bamba is gone, chet comes right in and gives you the rim protection and the 3's but he's more skilled imo...

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Not trying to be an ass or anything, just curious, why? Like what am I missing? Every time I've watched him, I've come away questioning why everyone had his ranked in the top 2-3 of this draft. I just don't get it?

[basketballRob]

If we decide to go big it may be unpopular but i still like holmgren....in that scenario bamba is gone, chet comes right in and gives you the rim protection and the 3's but he's more skilled imo...

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Not trying to be an ass or anything, just curious, why? Like what am I missing? Every time I've watched him, I've come away questioning why everyone had his ranked in the top 2-3 of this draft. I just don't get it?

His BPM is 14.2, compared to Mobley who was 13.4 last season.

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