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The Official Paolo Banchero Thread: 2022-2023 NBA Rookie of the Year

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Post#361 » by Landshark » Sat Jun 25, 2022 5:27 am

Def Swami wrote:I think this was the right pick. We needed a 3-level scorer, and that's really hard to find. He's 6'10" with a handle and ability to make plays for himself and others. He has a lot of the qualities that made me like Wagner last year. Having two guys with this kind of size being able to handle and pass is going to be an advantage for us.

I was out on Banchero when the college basketball season ended. But, this article by Dean on the Draft really sold me and made me want to rewatch some of his old games. When I went back, his shot making in March and playmaking really stood out. I encourage anyone on edge to give it a read.
https://deanondraft.com/2022/03/24/where-does-paolo-banchero-fit-in-the-modern-nba-and-2022-draft/

Something about picking Smith #1 never sat right with me. I feel like we were doing too many mental gymnastics trying to imagine him as some Jayson Tatum-like figure, when in reality the closest thing to a wing scorer was actually Banchero. Smith is going to be really good. I have no doubts about it. And as much as he shot the ball from 3 really well, I felt like settling for jumpers was the extent of his ability on offense. There's so much more to being a good offensive player than just shooting. Ball handling, passing, vision, finishing at the rim are important attributes. You can be a knock down shooter, but if you can't do anything else, it's going to get exposed at some point, especially in the playoffs. Maybe Smith develops that at some point, but Banchero does a lot of things at his size that is far harder to find right now.

I do think think the fit on this roster is awkward, but I'm not dodging a player who I think is the best player because they don't fit with my guards who might not even be starting on 90% of the teams in the league. Either two of Fultz, Suggs, Anthony, Hampton get much better at shooting, or Weltman and Hammond are going to have to make some changes. Regardless of who we picked, our back court sucked and needs improvement. I wouldn't be married to any of those young guards until they prove they can play good offensive basketball for a full season.

In terms of how Weltman and Hammond conducted the draft and keeping it a secret, you have to hand it to them. They did an amazing job of holding their cards to their chest. I imagine they tried to drive the Smith message home to punk Houston or OKC into trading up for Smith, and the Magic taking their Banchero at #3 or #2 while picking up another asset. Neither team bit, and the Magic just took their guy at #1. Excellent gamesmanship.

Great read. I've never heard of this guy before, but looking back at his Jabari Parker article linked in this one, he called Parker being a bust back in 2014 Summer League. Back when Parker's hype was at an all-time high, he was pointing out red flags in otherwise good performances if you only looked at box score stats. Seems like he knows his stuff, and he's really high on Paolo.
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Post#362 » by pepe1991 » Sat Jun 25, 2022 5:46 am

Claiming this is Fultz or Suggs team... oh boy.

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Post#363 » by PrimeThyme » Sat Jun 25, 2022 5:59 am

pepe1991 wrote:Claiming this is Fultz or Suggs team... oh boy.

This place is turning into reddit

Dude one person claimed that, && he’s literally a meme poster at this point. I don’t think you can make sweeping statements based on that.
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Post#364 » by pepe1991 » Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:20 am

PrimeThyme wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:Claiming this is Fultz or Suggs team... oh boy.

This place is turning into reddit

Dude one person claimed that, && he’s literally a meme poster at this point. I don’t think you can make sweeping statements based on that.


Even opening of this thread was moaning how Banchero doesn't "fit" Suggs nor Fultz...
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Post#365 » by basketballRob » Sat Jun 25, 2022 7:11 am

Nyce_1 wrote:1. This is Markelle's team. When you see how everyone responds to his presence, you know the truth.
2. WCj took some steps towards ownership of this team last season. 1 more healthy, productive season and it'll be his with Kell.
3. When he takes it, it'll be Paolo's team. Could be year 1, or year 3/4.

4. Paolo's listed weight at Duke was 250lbs. You could see the weight on him. NOW, you can tell he lost a noticeable amount of it. I wouldn't be surprised if his official weight is closer to 235.
5. Since 6'10 250lbs sounds massive, they'll never update his official measurements; leaving the duke weight enact.
Banchero looks like a naturally big person. I was noticing how much bigger his legs are compared to Jabari's, his calves are like 4 times bigger. He reminds me of a skinny Zion body type.

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Post#366 » by OrlChamps2030 » Sat Jun 25, 2022 7:44 am

pepe1991 wrote:
PrimeThyme wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:Claiming this is Fultz or Suggs team... oh boy.

This place is turning into reddit

Dude one person claimed that, && he’s literally a meme poster at this point. I don’t think you can make sweeping statements based on that.


Even opening of this thread was moaning how Banchero doesn't "fit" Suggs nor Fultz...


From what I’ve seen it’s been one of the biggest knocks on the pick from our fans. Complaining about the fit with the backcourt

Our starting backcourt shoots around ~22% from 3.. but somehow the 6”10 250 lb 3 level scoring PF is the problem?

News flash.. we have the worst shooting backcourt in the league
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Post#367 » by Ralof » Sat Jun 25, 2022 7:47 am

MagicStarwipe wrote:The "who's team is this" debate is pretty amusing.


especially when in reality,this is Cole Anthony's team.

and will be until they trade him.
until then we'll all be his hostages :cry:
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Post#368 » by basketballRob » Sat Jun 25, 2022 7:49 am

Fultz seems to handle himself with the most maturity on the team and will probably help Paolo deal with the #1 expectations.

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Post#369 » by basketballRob » Sat Jun 25, 2022 10:57 am

Did Paolo have a growth spurt in the last year? Before the season I remember people saying that Paolo grew and was 6'10" now. After this season they said he grew and was 6'10.5" now. He could still be in the midst of a growth spurt.

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Post#370 » by basketballRob » Sat Jun 25, 2022 11:22 am

I see a lot more ball handling and passing from Paolo in his high school highlights. I can see why I heard that he could be a better version of Scottie Barnes.

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Post#372 » by 89Magicfan » Sat Jun 25, 2022 11:55 am

You first acquire the talent, then you fit players around the talent.

Wouldn’t worry about fit rn.
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Post#373 » by tiderulz » Sat Jun 25, 2022 11:55 am

PrimeThyme wrote:I've given it 24 hours. I'm still not warmed up to the pick yet.

There's no question that he's a skilled offensive player. The highlights jump out at you, but more times than not, at least for me, the full game leaves an unsatisfied taste in my mouth. Jabari catches a lot of flack for his shot selection, but Paolo has a tendency to take ill-advised shots as well. Especially in late-game situations.

Then there's the defensive side of things, where I worry that a hot/cold motor on that end combined with questionable foot speed will lead to him being a negative defender. I think he and Franz have some overlapping skill sets as well and I think his lack of shooting will put even more pressure on our young guards.

If I had more trust in this front office, I think I'd be fully bought in already but I just don"t. Weltman made a fool of himself in my eyes last night. While other rebuilding teams like Houston/OKC were running clinics, Weltman was giving press conferences ten minutes after the pick was made while the draft was still ongoing. Which I'm sure was news to him. He's more concerned about proving his basketball genius and appearing to run a stealth operation (despite having no serious incentive to) than anything.

Paolo could be great. I certainly think he and his statline will look it at times. But I worry about what type of impact he will actually make at the next level. Time will tell, but now that he's on the team I'm a full supporter.

stop this. he doesnt have "lack of shooting", he just wasnt elite in his 1 year at Duke. We have no idea what they worked on, Duke like Syracuse is known to put players in a specific role. we've seen them expand their game as they move on. like Franz, who people questioned, how about we give him his rookie year until we start picking him apart. and honestly, you dont sound like a "full supporter"
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Post#374 » by I Rasharted » Sat Jun 25, 2022 12:03 pm

davey_wavy wrote:WCJ and Paolo buddy ball incoming

And this isn't Suggs or PBs team......

......it's Andrew DeClercq's team and everyone knows it


This is and always has been Mark Acres' team. He just occasionally loans it out to people when he's feeling generous.

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Post#375 » by tiderulz » Sat Jun 25, 2022 12:07 pm

fateis007 wrote:
MagicStarwipe wrote:The "who's team is this" debate is pretty amusing.


Read on Twitter

always found Scooter funny. Especially the whole Bama vs Florida fan thing.
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Post#376 » by D12VCMagic » Sat Jun 25, 2022 12:09 pm

OrlChamps2030 wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
PrimeThyme wrote:Dude one person claimed that, && he’s literally a meme poster at this point. I don’t think you can make sweeping statements based on that.


Even opening of this thread was moaning how Banchero doesn't "fit" Suggs nor Fultz...


From what I’ve seen it’s been one of the biggest knocks on the pick from our fans. Complaining about the fit with the backcourt

Our starting backcourt shoots around ~22% from 3.. but somehow the 6”10 250 lb 3 level scoring PF is the problem?

News flash.. we have the worst shooting backcourt in the league


I don’t think anyone is blaming Paolo for the back court. Just some frustration that the FO will unlikely address the issue this offseason.
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Post#377 » by drsd » Sat Jun 25, 2022 12:31 pm

jonbob17 wrote:I mean Paolo will probably add more muscle if anything so the weight might bump up a little. He's more of AD or Blake griffin type frame than a Tatum. I could see him playing next to JI and WCJ...but I'd rather JI guarding the opposing 3..assuming he is still capable. Who cares what position you call JI on offense...put him in the corner if you have to.



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Banchero looks nowhere near done in exploring his upper-body strength and development.



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Post#378 » by drsd » Sat Jun 25, 2022 12:33 pm

pepe1991 wrote:Claiming this is Fultz or Suggs team... oh boy.

This place is turning into reddit


The trade market hints at the true leader of this team.
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Post#379 » by magicfan217 » Sat Jun 25, 2022 12:39 pm

Paolo about to put on a show at summer league. Better get your ROY bets in now before those odds come way down.
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Post#380 » by Skybox » Sat Jun 25, 2022 12:40 pm

Ralof wrote:
MagicStarwipe wrote:The "who's team is this" debate is pretty amusing.


especially when in reality,this is Cole Anthony's team.

and will be until they trade him.
until then we'll all be his hostages :cry:


There's actually some real truth to that when he's on the court. :( I hope Mose reins him in, Cole could be good-but he's not yet.

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