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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#361 » by Knightro » Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:29 pm

basketballRob wrote:Can we even make another trade on draft night? I thought Bobby Marks said no.


The Magic cannot trade the 25th pick until after it's made because they now owe their 2026 first to Memphis and you can't have first round picks traded away in back-to-back seasons before the draft happens per the Stepien Rule.

Also the draft order gets "locked" on draft day, so any trade involving the Magic's draft pick wouldn't happen until after the draft. It could be agreed upon before that, but it can't be officially announced until July 1 I believe.
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Post#362 » by Skybox » Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:41 pm

Orl can't absorb salary either, so the whole thing is moot as that's really what BOS is after. If BOS isn't saving money THIS year, they're not interested. Porzingis is a perfect fit - but a huge risk (pretty much guaranteed) to miss extensive time. But, if he's healthy for the playoffs, legit contender. He's also a significant expiring deal...so, the worst scenario isn't really that devastating. I keep WCJ out of the deal because he's a viable alternative if it's understood that KP WILL be resting. I hate to accept it, but this would probably signal the loss of Moe...I would love to explore ways around that - would he sit out the year, fully rehab and return next season? Is there a move at the TD (or sooner) that could make room to re-sign Moe? That's a lot to assume/ask.

I think ORL, by declining all of their team options, has qualified for the MLE, so...

Trade #1:
ORL sends: Goga, Isaac, Jett Howard (expiring)
BOS sends: KP

Trade #2: (completely unrelated "wink")
ORL sends: #46
BOS sends: Hauser (into MLE slot)

ORL drafts Raynaud at #25, Ryan Nembhard at #57

Porzingis, WCJ, Raynaud
Paolo, WCJ, Isaac
Franz, TdS, AB
Suggs, Hauser, Queen (vet min)
Bane, AB, Nembhard
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#363 » by Redick07 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:07 pm

Skybox wrote:Orl can't absorb salary either, so the whole thing is moot as that's really what BOS is after. If BOS isn't saving money THIS year, they're not interested. Porzingis is a perfect fit - but a huge risk (pretty much guaranteed) to miss extensive time. But, if he's healthy for the playoffs, legit contender. He's also a significant expiring deal...so, the worst scenario isn't really that devastating. I keep WCJ out of the deal because he's a viable alternative if it's understood that KP WILL be resting. I hate to accept it, but this would probably signal the loss of Moe...I would love to explore ways around that - would he sit out the year, fully rehab and return next season? Is there a move at the TD (or sooner) that could make room to re-sign Moe? That's a lot to assume/ask.

I think ORL, by declining all of their team options, has qualified for the MLE, so...

Trade #1:
ORL sends: Goga, Isaac, Jett Howard (expiring)
BOS sends: KP

Trade #2: (completely unrelated "wink")
ORL sends: #46
BOS sends: Hauser (into MLE slot)

ORL drafts Raynaud at #25, Ryan Nembhard at #57

Porzingis, WCJ, Raynaud
Paolo, WCJ, Isaac
Franz, TdS, AB
Suggs, Hauser, Queen (vet min)
Bane, AB, Nembhard


Not a bad idea but I will place KP at the bench as Paolo’s backup in case of injury. Also, I prefer using MLE to sign NAW.

WCJ / Ryanair
Paolo / KP / #57
Franz / TdS
Bane / NAW
Suggs / AB / #46
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#364 » by basketballRob » Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:16 pm

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basketballRob wrote:Can we even make another trade on draft night? I thought Bobby Marks said no.


The Magic cannot trade the 25th pick until after it's made because they now owe their 2026 first to Memphis and you can't have first round picks traded away in back-to-back seasons before the draft happens per the Stepien Rule.

Also the draft order gets "locked" on draft day, so any trade involving the Magic's draft pick wouldn't happen until after the draft. It could be agreed upon before that, but it can't be officially announced until July 1 I believe.
He said the Bane trade activated the second apron, so until the cap actually goes up, we couldn't do anything.

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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#365 » by Knightro » Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:22 pm

basketballRob wrote:
Knightro wrote:
basketballRob wrote:Can we even make another trade on draft night? I thought Bobby Marks said no.


The Magic cannot trade the 25th pick until after it's made because they now owe their 2026 first to Memphis and you can't have first round picks traded away in back-to-back seasons before the draft happens per the Stepien Rule.

Also the draft order gets "locked" on draft day, so any trade involving the Magic's draft pick wouldn't happen until after the draft. It could be agreed upon before that, but it can't be officially announced until July 1 I believe.
He said the Bane trade activated the second apron, so until the cap actually goes up, we couldn't do anything.


This is semantics because no trades can be official now until July 1 anyway because of the Stepien Rule.

So while, yes it is true that the Bane trade did activate the 2nd apron, the Magic rectified that by declining the team options on Harris and Joseph.

They can agree in principle to a trade involving the 25th today if they want to, but nothing can or will be official until July 1.
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#366 » by RichCollab » Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:42 pm

Knightro wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
Knightro wrote:
The Magic cannot trade the 25th pick until after it's made because they now owe their 2026 first to Memphis and you can't have first round picks traded away in back-to-back seasons before the draft happens per the Stepien Rule.

Also the draft order gets "locked" on draft day, so any trade involving the Magic's draft pick wouldn't happen until after the draft. It could be agreed upon before that, but it can't be officially announced until July 1 I believe.
He said the Bane trade activated the second apron, so until the cap actually goes up, we couldn't do anything.


This is semantics because no trades can be official now until July 1 anyway because of the Stepien Rule.

So while, yes it is true that the Bane trade did activate the 2nd apron, the Magic rectified that by declining the team options on Harris and Joseph.

They can agree in principle to a trade involving the 25th today if they want to, but nothing can or will be official until July 1.


I have listened to all the experts like Keith from Sportrac and he twists himself and even contradicts himself. I have no clue where we stand on what we can actually do.
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#367 » by Redick07 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:49 pm

Knightro wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
Knightro wrote:
The Magic cannot trade the 25th pick until after it's made because they now owe their 2026 first to Memphis and you can't have first round picks traded away in back-to-back seasons before the draft happens per the Stepien Rule.

Also the draft order gets "locked" on draft day, so any trade involving the Magic's draft pick wouldn't happen until after the draft. It could be agreed upon before that, but it can't be officially announced until July 1 I believe.
He said the Bane trade activated the second apron, so until the cap actually goes up, we couldn't do anything.


This is semantics because no trades can be official now until July 1 anyway because of the Stepien Rule.

So while, yes it is true that the Bane trade did activate the 2nd apron, the Magic rectified that by declining the team options on Harris and Joseph.

They can agree in principle to a trade involving the 25th today if they want to, but nothing can or will be official until July 1.


That’s right. Also, in 24-25 season, the 2nd apron is 189m. However, in 25-26 season(start from 7/1 ?), the 2nd apron will be 207m, while the 1st apron will be 195 or 196m. We can still maintain our cap below 1st apron.
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#368 » by basketballRob » Wed Jun 18, 2025 4:37 pm

Redick07 wrote:
Knightro wrote:
basketballRob wrote:He said the Bane trade activated the second apron, so until the cap actually goes up, we couldn't do anything.


This is semantics because no trades can be official now until July 1 anyway because of the Stepien Rule.

So while, yes it is true that the Bane trade did activate the 2nd apron, the Magic rectified that by declining the team options on Harris and Joseph.

They can agree in principle to a trade involving the 25th today if they want to, but nothing can or will be official until July 1.


That’s right. Also, in 24-25 season, the 2nd apron is 189m. However, in 25-26 season(start from 7/1 ?), the 2nd apron will be 207m, while the 1st apron will be 195 or 196m. We can still maintain our cap below 1st apron.
I don't think we can stay under the first apron.

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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#369 » by Redick07 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 5:05 pm

basketballRob wrote:
Redick07 wrote:
Knightro wrote:
This is semantics because no trades can be official now until July 1 anyway because of the Stepien Rule.

So while, yes it is true that the Bane trade did activate the 2nd apron, the Magic rectified that by declining the team options on Harris and Joseph.

They can agree in principle to a trade involving the 25th today if they want to, but nothing can or will be official until July 1.


That’s right. Also, in 24-25 season, the 2nd apron is 189m. However, in 25-26 season(start from 7/1 ?), the 2nd apron will be 207m, while the 1st apron will be 195 or 196m. We can still maintain our cap below 1st apron.
I don't think we can stay under the first apron.

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Why? If we only pick someone in the draft night:

WCJ(11m) / Goga(8.3m) / MoW(9m, re-sign)
Paolo(15.3m) / Isaac(15m) / #46
Franz(38.6m) / TDS(3.8m)
Bane(36.7m) / Jett(5.5m) / #25(3.5m)
Suggs(35m) / Black (8m)
Total: 190m < 195m, still under 1 apron, unless we use MLE to sign someone.
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Post#370 » by dsg2021 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 5:28 pm

Skybox wrote:Orl can't absorb salary either, so the whole thing is moot as that's really what BOS is after. If BOS isn't saving money THIS year, they're not interested. Porzingis is a perfect fit - but a huge risk (pretty much guaranteed) to miss extensive time. But, if he's healthy for the playoffs, legit contender. He's also a significant expiring deal...so, the worst scenario isn't really that devastating. I keep WCJ out of the deal because he's a viable alternative if it's understood that KP WILL be resting. I hate to accept it, but this would probably signal the loss of Moe...I would love to explore ways around that - would he sit out the year, fully rehab and return next season? Is there a move at the TD (or sooner) that could make room to re-sign Moe? That's a lot to assume/ask.

I think ORL, by declining all of their team options, has qualified for the MLE, so...

Trade #1:
ORL sends: Goga, Isaac, Jett Howard (expiring)
BOS sends: KP

Trade #2: (completely unrelated "wink")
ORL sends: #46
BOS sends: Hauser (into MLE slot)

ORL drafts Raynaud at #25, Ryan Nembhard at #57

Porzingis, WCJ, Raynaud
Paolo, WCJ, Isaac
Franz, TdS, AB
Suggs, Hauser, Queen (vet min)
Bane, AB, Nembhard


Very cool creativity Skybox, I like it and the draft picks too.
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#371 » by mattdelray1220 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 5:31 pm

Redick07 wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
Redick07 wrote:
That’s right. Also, in 24-25 season, the 2nd apron is 189m. However, in 25-26 season(start from 7/1 ?), the 2nd apron will be 207m, while the 1st apron will be 195 or 196m. We can still maintain our cap below 1st apron.
I don't think we can stay under the first apron.

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Why? If we only pick someone in the draft night:

WCJ(11m) / Goga(8.3m) / MoW(9m, re-sign)
Paolo(15.3m) / Isaac(15m) / #46
Franz(38.6m) / TDS(3.8m)
Bane(36.7m) / Jett(5.5m) / #25(3.5m)
Suggs(35m) / Black (8m)
Total: 190m < 195m, still under 1 apron, unless we use MLE to sign someone.



This is true. I think Moe will be 8+8 so 189. I think they sign Caleb 1+1 3mil per. - 192 and sign Spencer Dinwiddie to a 1year 3mil and be right at the 195 threshold.
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Post#372 » by cedric76 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 6:40 pm

staying under the 1st apron is doable if we sign Moe on a 7 M ish 1+1
Suggs, Tyus, Jase
Bane, AB, Jett
Franz, TDS,
P5, JI, Panda
Wcj, Goga, Moe
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Post#373 » by thelead » Wed Jun 18, 2025 6:54 pm

We traded 2 guards for 1, then cut 2 more guards. No way we are done. More has to happen.
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Post#374 » by Knightro » Wed Jun 18, 2025 7:21 pm

thelead wrote:We traded 2 guards for 1, then cut 2 more guards. No way we are done. More has to happen.


Clayton at 25 and full MLE on Alexander-Walker?
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Post#375 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Wed Jun 18, 2025 7:22 pm

Read on Twitter


As a Goga replacement would make sense. Also only 1 year so doesn’t hurt long term. Possibly dish out Jett and 2nd or some ****
A scoring guard.. never heard of one. :roll:
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Post#376 » by RichCollab » Wed Jun 18, 2025 7:30 pm

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:
Read on Twitter


As a Goga replacement would make sense. Also only 1 year so doesn’t hurt long term. Possibly dish out Jett and 2nd or some ****


Dude is a walking injury and failed a trade physical.

Vet min, 3rd string spot big. Maybe. I don’t think we are desperate. We don’t need injury lottery tickets. He need consistent role players.
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Post#377 » by RichCollab » Wed Jun 18, 2025 7:32 pm

Knightro wrote:
thelead wrote:We traded 2 guards for 1, then cut 2 more guards. No way we are done. More has to happen.


Clayton at 25 and full MLE on Alexander-Walker?


I’m ok with CoJo coming back. But Cole, Harris and CoJo were hardly solid rotational players. Full kudos to CoJo though.

Did you see how many serviceable guards sign for vet min last year when the money dried up.
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#378 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Wed Jun 18, 2025 7:32 pm

RichCollab wrote:
MartinsIzAfraud wrote:
Read on Twitter


As a Goga replacement would make sense. Also only 1 year so doesn’t hurt long term. Possibly dish out Jett and 2nd or some ****


Dude is a walking injury and failed a trade physical.

Vet min, 3rd string spot big. Maybe. I don’t think we are desperate. We don’t need injury lottery tickets. He need consistent role players.

ehh I think lakers had buyers remorse and found a way to fail Williams on "medical terms"

I do agree he has been pretty injury prone though, didn't think about that side
A scoring guard.. never heard of one. :roll:
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Post#379 » by BelgradeNugget » Wed Jun 18, 2025 7:35 pm

What do you guys think of this

Denver trades Saric, Pickett, 2031 1st (top 3 protected)
Orlando trades Goga, #25

Orlando gets 2 expiring contracts and very good asset, not bad to have after you emptied your picks for Bane
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Post#380 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 7:39 pm

RichCollab wrote:
MartinsIzAfraud wrote:
Read on Twitter


As a Goga replacement would make sense. Also only 1 year so doesn’t hurt long term. Possibly dish out Jett and 2nd or some ****


Dude is a walking injury and failed a trade physical.

Vet min, 3rd string spot big. Maybe. I don’t think we are desperate. We don’t need injury lottery tickets. He need consistent role players.


I mean even if he’s available 70% of the season, that alone is better than what Jett and seconds could provide.

There’s also Paolo/Duke connection.

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