Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Pt X, Mods close)

The Effect · Post #381 » by **The Effect** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:50 am

Reverse_Angle wrote:i would trade dwight for greg monroe and brandon knight.

Why would detroit do it, there is a 0% chance dwight would stay in detroit :lol:

Doubt they would be willing to give up their two best players just to get dwight for 30 games in rebuilding season

Reverse_Angle · Post #382 » by **Reverse_Angle** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:08 am

The Effect wrote:
Reverse_Angle wrote:i would trade dwight for greg monroe and brandon knight.

Why would detroit do it, there is a 0% chance dwight would stay in detroit

Doubt they would be willing to give up their two best players just to get dwight for 30 games in rebuilding season

i am not saying detroit would do it, i am saying i would do it. straight up. 8-)

in other words, i would be satisfied with the talent we get back from that trade with or without picks involved.

BadMofoPimp · Post #383 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:00 pm

SHEED is making a comeback. Is about ready to be available to teams. Dude is like 6'11" and could backup Dwight at Center. He has post game, shoot 3's and play great defense.

He would be perfect for 10-15 mpg at his age.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-wojnarowski_rasheed_wallace_nba_return_011212

Otis, make it happen.

SEBAS-07 · Post #384 » by **SEBAS-07** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:25 pm

http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/warriors-talk/post/Riley-and-Magic-GM-Otis-Smith-meet-over-?blockID=630190&feedID=5882

Otis Smith an Warriors GM meet over Lunch before game

Quote:
OAKLAND -- The odds of the Warriors landing Orlando center Dwight Howard in a trade are beyond long. But that doesn’t mean Golden State isn’t going to try to make something happen -- even if the attempt proves futile.
Warriors general manager Larry Riley and Orlando Magic general manager Otis Smith met on Thursday afternoon over lunch in downtown Oakland, and there is little doubt the names of Howard and Stephen Curry came up.

Riley confirmed the lunch before the Warriors-Magic game on Thursday night, and said it’s not unusual for him to meet with or grab a bite to eat with executives from other teams.

“I have a few commitments before the game and I wasn’t sure I’d get to talk to him for more than two or three minutes,” Riley said. “So, I figured this would be a way to have a longer conversation.”

According to a report by Yahoo! Sports last week, the Warriors have emerged as aggressive suitors for Howard, who has asked to be traded. The reality is it is unlikely that the Warriors could put together a package that land them Howard.

The best chip the Warriors have in any potential trade talks involving Howard is point guard Stephen Curry. But Curry has been plagued by ankle issues this season, and there is uncertainty about his long-term future.

It is highly unlikely that Smith -- or an NBA general manager, for that matter -- would trade for Curry until and unless there is resolution on that ankle.

Maybe Otis is looking for a new job

trebone · Post #385 » by **trebone** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:38 pm

Rasheed for the back up C spot would be great for us, he could also teach Howard a few things and bring some intensity for the shortened season and a run into the playoffs. I believe we have an open roster spot if i'm not mistaken

The-Dawson · Post #386 » by **The-Dawson** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:51 pm

Monta for J RIch Anderson and Orton make it happen Otis!

zerp · Post #387 » by **zerp** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:53 pm

why Golden state trade his star for that...and a SG :roll:

Ellis >>>>>> J rich
Why trade for Anderson as back up they have Lee at this spot.
Do it Otis :roll:

i'm sure that this trade depend on Otis !!!

zerp · Post #388 » by **zerp** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:57 pm

We need a big man back up now.

Reverse_Angle · Post #389 » by **Reverse_Angle** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 5:25 pm

zerp wrote:why Golden state trade his star for that...and a SG
Ellis >>>>>> J rich
Why trade for Anderson as back up they have Lee at this spot.
Do it Otis i'm sure that this trade depend on Otis !!!

ironically, they sent jrich away to make space for monta like 5 years ago. :lol:

rcklsscognition · Post #390 » by **rcklsscognition** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 5:48 pm

magicfan84 wrote:Rasheed for the back up C spot would be great for us, he could also teach Howard a few things and bring some intensity for the shortened season and a run into the playoffs. I believe we have an open roster spot if i'm not mistaken

Love it. Hope we can get him.

rcklsscognition · Post #391 » by **rcklsscognition** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:40 pm

New article up by Stein on possible Dwight scenarios. More of a d-league showcase polling of GMs about where Dwight will wind up.

http://espn.go.com/nba/dailydime/_/page ... oward-land

Blue_and_Whte · Post #392 » by **Blue_and_Whte** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:20 pm

Young players+picks

Post #393 » by **FFBlitzace** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:32 pm

ESPN is gonna be SO butthurt if Dwight stays.

SubyWill · Post #394 » by **SubyWill** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 1:29 am

FFBlitzace wrote:ESPN is gonna be SO butthurt if Dwight stays.

It wouldn't even be a headline, just a footnote somewhere.

MagicFan32 · Post #395 » by **MagicFan32** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 1:54 am

it seems like every weekend Stein has one piece of garbage like this

Nemesis21 · Post #396 » by **Nemesis21** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 2:07 am

MagicFan32 wrote:it seems like every weekend Stein has one piece of garbage like this

Yep.

rcklsscognition · Post #397 » by **rcklsscognition** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 3:51 am

If Andre Blatche gets traded, anything is possible.

rcklsscognition · Post #398 » by **rcklsscognition** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 3:58 am

The Suns are terrible, losing to the Nets. They need to deal Nash in an act of charity. NBA Cares contribution of 2012 for the Suns.

Post #399 » by **eyriq** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 4:45 am

*Warning, WOT incoming. Figured I'd dump thoughts in this thread since, well, it is here.

11 games in and I'm not too impressed with our team. Offensively we are shooting the ball well, and defensively we are rebounding the ball well, but overall we are looking like the weakest team in the SVG era. No real chemistry or identity. Dwight at 37.7 MPG is the obvious staple, then next comes Hedo at 32.6 MPG and no one else above 30. I'm sure that is partly a function of having such a compressed schedule, but I have a feeling that Stan hasn't quite settled on this current teams identity and the right chemistry for rotations and roles, much like last year.

Ten games worth of +/- is recorded over at Basketballvalue, so I'm going to do a quick comparison between Anderson/Baby/the Hedo stretch 4 lineup.

Anderson's top 5 MPG units:
1. ORtg 109.63 / DRtg 108.22 (Nelson/JRich/Hedo/Howard)
2. ORtg 133.96 / DRtg 86.27 (Duhon/JRich/Hedo/Howard)
3. ORtg 85.71 / DRtg 100 (Duhon/Redick/JRich/Baby)
4. ORtg 129.63 / DRtg 88.46 (Duhon/Redick/Hedo/Baby)
5. ORtg 183.33 / DRtg 88.89 (Nelson/Redick/Hedo/Howard)

Baby's top 5 MPG units:
1. ORtg 118.75 / DRtg 103.85 (Duhon/Redick/Hedo/Howard)
2. ORtg 88 / DRtg 106 (Nelson/JRich/Hedo/Howard)
3. ORtg 85.71 / DRtg 100 (Duhon/Redick/JRich/Anderson)
4. ORtg 116.67 / DRtg 113.89 (Nelson/Redick/Hedo/Howard)
5. ORtg 129.63 / DRtg 88.46 (Duhon/Redick/Hedo/Anderson)

Hedo stretch 4 unit (no Baby or Anderson)
1. ORtg 105.13 / DRtg 110.53 (Nelson/Redick/JRich/Howard)
*I don't have the stats from last nights game, but the Nelson/Wafer/Redick/Hedo/Howard lineup was +8 in around 7 minutes play.

So, let's first look at the Nelson/Redick/JRich/Howard unit. This is only seen with Hedo in the 4 slot, so not much we can learn. Stan has gone to it as his closing unit at times, and while last night it paid off overall it hasn't been that strong. Personally I'm not impressed and wouldn't mind seeing something else.

Ok, between Anderson and Baby. They share two units together, one with JRich at the 3 which is horrible and the other with Hedo at the 3 which is very good. They are swapped out directly in two others, which we'll look at, and the final units are not in common, Anderson's #2 and Baby's #1.

Nelson/JRich/Hedo/Howard, or Anderson's #1 unit and Baby's #2 unit. With Anderson in the offense is 21.63 points per 100 possessions better, and the defense is 2.22 points per 100 possessions worse. Neither unit is really that impressive tbh, not championship level starting quality that is for sure. Hopefully something is done there, but it certainly doesn't appear to need to be Baby starting over Anderson.

Nelson/Redick/Hedo/Howard, or Anderson's #5 unit and Baby's #4 unit. With Anderson in the offense is 66.66 points per 100 possessions better(!) and the defense is 25 points per 100 possessions better(!). Both these lineups are very, very good, but with very, very little floor time. You'll notice that these lineups would be our starting lineup if Redick started ahead of JRich...

So, after 10 games not much is very clear, but what is measurable tells us that Anderson is probably better than Baby, and that buried in rotation purgatory is possibly our best possible unit, Nelson/Redick/Hedo/Anderson/Dwight. So, while right now we are only top 8 in 2/8 of the offensive and defensive four factors, and we are beating teams by 5 points per game, there is still reason to believe that Stan can figure this out and get the right rotations and units on the floor. I think this team can build an identity around Anderson and Dwight, but it is going to be something we grow into I guess. Also, JRich missing games could be a huge blessing in disguise.

rcklsscognition · Post #400 » by **rcklsscognition** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 5:04 am

^^Thanks for the stats. Without a backup center, we'll never be able to run the optimal lineup.