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Game #64: Orlando Magic(36-27) @ Denver Nuggets (35-28)

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Re: Game #64: Orlando Magic(36-27) @ Denver Nuggets (35-28) 

Post#381 » by j_n » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:32 am

magicman123 wrote:ryan is averaging like 14.5pts on 40% and 26% shooting without dwight, but hes been playing better the last 2 games

It looks more like a shooting slump, hes not making the same shots hes been making all year.
Davis plays the pick n roll really well but with Ish and duhon trying to create for him hes gonna look bad.

I remember earlier in the season when stan always went to his wierd second unit and we kept saying how we always need one of meer/hedo/dwight on the court, so I guess thats how this team looks like without them for a whole game.
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Re: Game #64: Orlando Magic(36-27) @ Denver Nuggets (35-28) 

Post#382 » by Prolific Scorer » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:32 am

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Last Guardian wrote:Ryan Anderson really sucks without Dwight.

Yeah he's totally dependent on Dwight. Can't even score 27 and 10 without him, scrub I tell ya.


I was being sarcastic.

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Re: Game #64: Orlando Magic(36-27) @ Denver Nuggets (35-28) 

Post#383 » by Chris1 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:32 am

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Still some of the games they have lost this year have been embarrassing. No way they would've only put up 67 or 59 points in a loss even a year ago.


That wasn't fun to watch, but that doesn't negate the fact that they produced the 3rd best record in the east.


Sure, but still I didn't really enjoy watching them this year. Overall I thought the shortened season sucked like a mutha and it should've stayed locked out to tell you the truth.
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Re: Game #64: Orlando Magic(36-27) @ Denver Nuggets (35-28) 

Post#384 » by MagicStarwipe » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:33 am

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Re: Game #64: Orlando Magic(36-27) @ Denver Nuggets (35-28) 

Post#385 » by Last Guardian » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:33 am

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Re: Game #64: Orlando Magic(36-27) @ Denver Nuggets (35-28) 

Post#386 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:33 am

magicman123 wrote:ryan is averaging like 14.5pts on 40% and 26% shooting without dwight, but hes been playing better the last few games

You know what, next year, I hope that Ryan explodes and become even better....on another team.
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Re: Game #64: Orlando Magic(36-27) @ Denver Nuggets (35-28) 

Post#387 » by magicman123 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:33 am

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Denver is 36-28 and a playoff team.


they are 29th in defense and we failed to score 75pts, man this team is banged up

21st

29th in points allowed
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Re: Game #64: Orlando Magic(36-27) @ Denver Nuggets (35-28) 

Post#388 » by arsenal6106 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:34 am

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Still some of the games they have lost this year have been embarrassing. No way they would've only put up 67 or 59 points in a loss even a year ago.


That wasn't fun to watch, but that doesn't negate the fact that they produced the 3rd best record in the east.


Sure, but still I didn't really enjoy watching them this year. Overall I thought the shortened season sucked like a mutha and it should've stayed locked out to tell you the truth.


Lockout season + Dwight Drama = One depressing season
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Post#389 » by Prolific Scorer » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:36 am

magicman123 wrote:29th in points allowed

21st in Def Rtg

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/DEN/2012.html
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Re: Game #64: Orlando Magic(36-27) @ Denver Nuggets (35-28) 

Post#390 » by magicman123 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:36 am

stan with his usual: "i dont know"
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Post#391 » by NickAnderson » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:36 am

Stan is a jackass, he thinks this team of medicore defenders we have will all of a sudden be great defenders.
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Re: Game #64: Orlando Magic(36-27) @ Denver Nuggets (35-28) 

Post#392 » by magicman123 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:37 am

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magicman123 wrote:29th in points allowed

21st in Def Rtg

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/DEN/2012.html


either way they suck, they give up 102pts/game and we scored 74...point is we are a mess
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Post#393 » by thelead » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:38 am

magicman123 wrote:stan with his usual: "i dont know"

Dead man walking. Said that we can mark Charlotte down for 100pts and 50% shooting. Way to motivate.
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Re: Game #64: Orlando Magic(36-27) @ Denver Nuggets (35-28) 

Post#394 » by Prolific Scorer » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:38 am

magicman123 wrote:
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magicman123 wrote:29th in points allowed

21st in Def Rtg

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/DEN/2012.html


either way they suck, they give up 102pts/game and we scored 74...point is we are a mess


I know lol. They've been better lately with McGee and Faried getting more minutes though.
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Post#395 » by Chris1 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:38 am

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Lockout season + Dwight Drama = One depressing season


I don't think I'm going be into the playoffs that much this year, I'm just not really excited about it.
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Re: Game #64: Orlando Magic(36-27) @ Denver Nuggets (35-28) 

Post#396 » by magicman123 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:39 am

Prolific Scorer wrote:I know lol. They've been better lately with McGee and Faried getting more minutes though.

Faried is a beast, i love how hard he plays
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Post#397 » by Prolific Scorer » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:41 am

magicman123 wrote:
Prolific Scorer wrote:I know lol. They've been better lately with McGee and Faried getting more minutes though.

Faried is a beast, i love how hard he plays

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Re: Game #64: Orlando Magic(36-27) @ Denver Nuggets (35-28) 

Post#398 » by rcklsscognition » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:43 am

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yet they fail to make simple lob passes/short dishes to him on the majority of p&r's we run...

you know who has actually been the most consistent at either popping a lob over to Dwight, or offloading the ball to Dwight in the lane off a drive? JJ and Von. they make the basic passes that Jameer never does. Duhon doesn't even get a mention. Ish doesn't get the chance (but I've seen him do it several times).


I know we talked about this in the other thread and you (i think) had some stats saying Dwight was very good on t he p&r but I am sticking to my guns and saying he is not doing it well enough. He doesn't set the pick hard enough because he's afraid of picking up a foul, and he doesn't allow the pick to develop and set before he moves. I'm not saying he never does, but a lot of times he doesn't.

Watch how much separation Jordan gets here:

Patience:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjVD_A6gUu8[/youtube]

Dwight doing the same but never touches the ball handler's man, doesn't even set a pick with Redick vs. Roy Hibbert in March:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hw3MveU4jE[/youtube]

You say, that's great, he doesn't even have to set picks, but the problem is you do have to set picks to make the pick and roll work on almost all other plays. Dwight has a tendency to shy away from a pick because of foul trouble. That's why if Dwight set picks like BBD, he'd have a much better pick and roll game.

In this vid, at 57 seconds, Dwight actually sets a pick and pushes the defender away and gets an open dunk. The beginning of the vid is all terrible picks set by Howard and Gortat. No separation created. No disruption and no switch. In the plays where the bigs are camped in the lane zone, Jameer is doing the correct thing and shooting after the pick.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzmEntcAxrE&feature=related[/youtube]

When there is no big man zone being played and Howard sets a good pick, they get lobs and dunks. Problem is, against us, that's the defense we see a lot because that's how you shut down the 1-5 pick and roll. Don't hate on Jameer for not being able to throw a lob to a Dwight who is getting covered in the paint by 1 or 2 bigs in the zone.
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Re: Game #64: Orlando Magic(36-27) @ Denver Nuggets (35-28) 

Post#399 » by ivDT » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:43 am

i'm more partial to ranchero omelets.
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Re: Game #64: Orlando Magic(36-27) @ Denver Nuggets (35-28) 

Post#400 » by Prolific Scorer » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:44 am

ivDT wrote:i'm more partial to ranchero omelets.

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