ImageImageImageImage

Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXX: Offseason Edition)

Moderators: UCF, Knightro, UCFJayBird, Def Swami, Howard Mass, ChosenSavior

User avatar
Furinkazan
General Manager
Posts: 7,985
And1: 3,627
Joined: May 11, 2005
     

Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXX: Offseason Edition) 

Post#381 » by Furinkazan » Mon Jul 2, 2012 6:50 am

thats why I said trade him a f...ng year ago when he had 3 teams on his list ...
we are screwed
Truth24
Starter
Posts: 2,254
And1: 443
Joined: May 18, 2011

Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXX: Offseason Edition) 

Post#382 » by Truth24 » Mon Jul 2, 2012 6:53 am

Cammo101 wrote:
PerryJonesIII wrote:Yeah I have to agree Asik just got 8 mil per and I believe Lopez is going to start off at around 10 mil per and may be higher.


Who is driving up his market? The Nets seem to be the only bidder right now. Had Lopez not been hurt all year, he'd surely be getting 12 or more a year. Making him a value at 10 mil or so if he's healthy.


I don't think anybody is driving his market up right now but if you look at the centers left in FA, a team may get desperate enough to offer him 12 mil. I think the only decent centers left are McGee, Hawes, and Lopez. Personally I don't see Lopez getting a max offer but I do think his contract is going to be about 10 per which like you said is pretty decent value considering.
cedric76
RealGM
Posts: 16,226
And1: 3,718
Joined: May 28, 2005

Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXX: Offseason Edition) 

Post#383 » by cedric76 » Mon Jul 2, 2012 6:53 am

AlexKennedyNBA: Dwight Howard hates sources, according to sources.

lol
Suggs, Tyus, Jase
Bane, AB, Jett
Franz, TDS,
P5, JI, Panda
Wcj, Goga, Moe
User avatar
eyriq
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 33,665
And1: 9,549
Joined: Mar 25, 2008
Location: #TheLab
Contact:
 

Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXX: Offseason Edition) 

Post#384 » by eyriq » Mon Jul 2, 2012 6:54 am

Bensational wrote:i'm guessing that Dwight is real scared that the Brooklyn express is gonna leave without him, which is why he's trying to flex his muscle now.

time is on our side. hold on to him, let the Nets use up their capspace and take themselves out of the running, then if he still wants to leave, he won't be trying to scare off as many teams.

if they don't use that space and they do hold out for him, ship him off to the highest bidder that's prepared to offer some youth/picks and an expiring. if no one is buying, then just bench him for the season and teach him the biggest lesson of his life.


The logic, it is pulling me back into its orbit, must.not.succumb.
User avatar
thelead
RealGM
Posts: 46,330
And1: 30,009
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
 

Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXX: Offseason Edition) 

Post#385 » by thelead » Mon Jul 2, 2012 6:55 am

~Snoopy~ wrote:thats why I said trade him a f...ng year ago when he had 3 teams on his list ...
we are screwed

That's not how it played out. Dwight requested to speak to 3 teams, met with the teams and narrowed it down to one. He was never going to accept anywhere but NJ at the end of the day.
Image
User avatar
Cammo101
Mr. Mock Draft
Posts: 30,858
And1: 2,011
Joined: Feb 11, 2006
Location: Austin, TX
     

Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXX: Offseason Edition) 

Post#386 » by Cammo101 » Mon Jul 2, 2012 7:01 am

The Magic are much better off going into a complete tank rebuild and letting Dwight walk than trying to grasp at straws and trade Dwight out of fear. These next few drafts are going to be pretty loaded, so if we went into the tank and started to rebuild and dump contracts, we could emerge in a few years with a couple young studs and a lot of cap space.

Think Cavs but in a place where free agents would actually go.
User avatar
Furinkazan
General Manager
Posts: 7,985
And1: 3,627
Joined: May 11, 2005
     

Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXX: Offseason Edition) 

Post#387 » by Furinkazan » Mon Jul 2, 2012 7:01 am

thelead wrote:
~Snoopy~ wrote:thats why I said trade him a f...ng year ago when he had 3 teams on his list ...
we are screwed

That's not how it played out. Dwight requested to speak to 3 teams, met with the teams and narrowed it down to one. He was never going to accept anywhere but NJ at the end of the day.



still
trading him last year would save my sanity XD

hey but on a good note...

at least ppl start to realise what person he really is...
OOO
Banned User
Posts: 1,554
And1: 22
Joined: Apr 04, 2012

Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXX: Offseason Edition) 

Post#388 » by OOO » Mon Jul 2, 2012 7:04 am

OrlandO wrote:If Woj was able to get the quote about only being traded to "one team" then why not Rudolph?


Not in the same league. Rudolph is a scrub compared to Woj. Remember when Rudolph was milking that Dwight story all night long at the deadline? Lost a lot of respect there.
Bensational
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 31,308
And1: 13,745
Joined: Apr 10, 2001
     

Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXX: Offseason Edition) 

Post#389 » by Bensational » Mon Jul 2, 2012 7:04 am

one thing - if i'm Hennigan, i don't even take phone calls from the Nets. i don't even give them hope that they'll get Dwight, because i know they've got nothing to offer, and that they won't be able to get anything of value from a 3rd team. let them panic themselves into moves to appease Deron.
User avatar
Cammo101
Mr. Mock Draft
Posts: 30,858
And1: 2,011
Joined: Feb 11, 2006
Location: Austin, TX
     

Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXX: Offseason Edition) 

Post#390 » by Cammo101 » Mon Jul 2, 2012 7:05 am

Bensational wrote:one thing - if i'm Hennigan, i don't even take phone calls from the Nets. i don't even give them hope that they'll get Dwight, because i know they've got nothing to offer, and that they won't be able to get anything of value from a 3rd team. let them panic themselves into moves to appease Deron.


Agreed. The Magic are in the position of power here because we have more time to drag this out than the Nets do. Hopefully our front office is smart enough to know this.
User avatar
thelead
RealGM
Posts: 46,330
And1: 30,009
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
 

Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXX: Offseason Edition) 

Post#391 » by thelead » Mon Jul 2, 2012 7:10 am

Cammo101 wrote:
Bensational wrote:one thing - if i'm Hennigan, i don't even take phone calls from the Nets. i don't even give them hope that they'll get Dwight, because i know they've got nothing to offer, and that they won't be able to get anything of value from a 3rd team. let them panic themselves into moves to appease Deron.


Agreed. The Magic are in the position of power here because we have more time to drag this out than the Nets do. Hopefully our front office is smart enough to know this.


I trust the team that rob built is smart enough to recognize it.
User avatar
Super_Mario_3
Senior
Posts: 747
And1: 9
Joined: Aug 22, 2006

Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXX: Offseason Edition) 

Post#392 » by Super_Mario_3 » Mon Jul 2, 2012 7:42 am

Just a thought. Since we'll be in rebuilding mode because of the Dwight situation, could we just make moves to make sure he doesn't end up going to Brooklyn?

1) Renounce rights to Ryno

2) Trade jrich to a team under the cap for Cash and future draft picks (CHA)

3) Waive JJ, making us around 12M under the cap this offseason

4) Sign Brook Lopez to an offer sheet starting at $11M, assuming the JJ trade to Brooklyn pushes through

- if the Nets match, they would be paying around 63M for just 4 players for the 13-14 season (joe johnson, deron, gerald wallace and brook lopez). no way they get dwight.

- if Nets don't match, we get a good scoring center to replace dwight, who at 11-12M annually would be relatively cheap contract compared to the Chandlers, Hibberts, etc. IIRC, brook lopez's stress fracture is the same injury blake griffin had during the year he was drafted, postponing his rookie year, so lopez isn't necessarily damaged goods.
User avatar
thelead
RealGM
Posts: 46,330
And1: 30,009
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
 

Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXX: Offseason Edition) 

Post#393 » by thelead » Mon Jul 2, 2012 7:47 am

Dwight_Nasty wrote:Just a thought. Since we'll be in rebuilding mode because of the Dwight situation, could we just make moves to make sure he doesn't end up going to Brooklyn?

1) Renounce rights to Ryno

2) Trade jrich to a team under the cap for Cash and future draft picks (CHA)

3) Waive JJ, making us around 12M under the cap this offseason

4) Sign Brook Lopez to an offer sheet starting at $11M, assuming the JJ trade to Brooklyn pushes through

- if the Nets match, they would be paying around 63M for just 4 players for the 13-14 season (joe johnson, deron, gerald wallace and brook lopez). no way they get dwight.

- if Nets don't match, we get a good scoring center to replace dwight, who at 11-12M annually would be relatively cheap contract compared to the Chandlers, Hibberts, etc. IIRC, brook lopez's stress fracture is the same injury blake griffin had during the year he was drafted, postponing his rookie year, so lopez isn't necessarily damaged goods.


I hope Rob doesn't value Lopez as much as you do. I don't want him on this team.
Image
dsg2021
Assistant Coach
Posts: 3,773
And1: 1,207
Joined: Jul 07, 2009
   

Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXX: Offseason Edition) 

Post#394 » by dsg2021 » Mon Jul 2, 2012 8:26 am

Too much overcomplification. Trade him to the best offer, whatever team it is.
MagicFan32
RealGM
Posts: 14,953
And1: 790
Joined: Jun 13, 2004
     

Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXX: Offseason Edition) 

Post#395 » by MagicFan32 » Mon Jul 2, 2012 8:28 am

we can't let dwight be here again.
get as many quality assets as possible, purge whatever salary we can and move on.

He is a disingenous scum bag, all that loyalty bull was talk. i hope he realizes he just made things much worse than before. we fans don't deserve this.
aol4532 on bill russell
I think if you put McGee back then, he would get those blocks just as easily as Russell did. Russell's athleticism was well ahead of the players of his time, and that's about it.
User avatar
Greenraida
Pro Prospect
Posts: 921
And1: 240
Joined: Mar 06, 2012
Location: Sydney
 

Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXX: Offseason Edition) 

Post#396 » by Greenraida » Mon Jul 2, 2012 8:51 am

if howard changes heart again and signs an extension - will everyone still love him?
User avatar
zuppafly
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,032
And1: 1,024
Joined: Nov 05, 2005
Location: Portugal
Contact:
     

Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXX: Offseason Edition) 

Post#397 » by zuppafly » Mon Jul 2, 2012 8:54 am

No.
I don't want him back at all.

Sent from my MT15i using Tapatalk 2
User avatar
Jiwol
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,024
And1: 1,394
Joined: Feb 13, 2002
 

Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXX: Offseason Edition) 

Post#398 » by Jiwol » Mon Jul 2, 2012 9:06 am

Don't trade Dwight anywhere this season. Play him and let fans boo the hell out of this a-hole every time he steps on the floor. Make this season a **** nightmare for him. Then totally rebuild the franchise in 2013. Anybody in?
User avatar
artist
Freshman
Posts: 80
And1: 0
Joined: Apr 30, 2010

Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXX: Offseason Edition) 

Post#399 » by artist » Mon Jul 2, 2012 9:06 am

OrlandO wrote:Come on, Hennigan, you got this.
Image



Hey man this is Sig material :) lolz I want that on my sig :)

anyone can make one resized picture of that thanks a lot !!! in advance :) msg me pls
Image
NBA.COM Breaking News: Magic Win it ALL
User avatar
Def Swami
Forum Mod - Magic
Forum Mod - Magic
Posts: 25,974
And1: 15,371
Joined: Aug 04, 2008
Location: Huevos Bancheros Brunch
Contact:
   

Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXX: Offseason Edition) 

Post#400 » by Def Swami » Mon Jul 2, 2012 10:09 am

I've been gone all weekend and have got tidbit updates via word of mouth about transpiring in the Magic Kingdom. Can anyone run me up to speed on the major details of what has happened? All I've heard is that Dwight requested a trade (no shocker and not mad about it if true) on Friday, and he also is accusing the Magic of blackmailing him and is looking to pursue legal action to void his opt-in (dafuq?)

Return to Orlando Magic