Game 12: New Orleans Pelicans (2-9) @ Orlando Magic (4-7) - 7:00 PM ET

[OrlandoDream]

Score by committee nonsense. This is a game where we should have our top two designated options scoring 20+ each.

Our top 2 designated scoring options are trash and are leading us nowhere but to the lottery anyway. Time to shake up the status quo of this team. We are not a playoff team. Time to stop pretending.

The sooner we do it, the better.

To trade Vuc and Fournier we would have to be getting back all star talent to replace their scoring. Unless we crate a package for John Wall, Cousins, or Paul George. Those teams can get better players for those stars.

[PennytoShaq]

Great game by Jeff Green! $15 million per year to do what he does.

Nice signing Hennigan.

Everyone nows Green is either on or off. That's how his game is. We don't have a consistent scorer at SF currently.

[PennytoShaq]

Our top 2 designated scoring options are trash and are leading us nowhere but to the lottery anyway. Time to shake up the status quo of this team. We are not a playoff team. Time to stop pretending.

The sooner we do it, the better.

To trade Vuc and Fournier we would have to be getting back all star talent to replace their scoring. Unless we crate a package for John Wall, Cousins, or Paul George. Those teams can get better players for those stars.

John Wall..what a fantasy. Dude would be amazing here.

[PrimeThyme]

The worst part about Vuc right now is that his value is going down every game. His percentages are downsignificantly across the board and his ppg are too. Im not sure what Vuc could even fetch us at this point. We'd have to pair him with Mario or a draft pick to get anything of value out of him

[MagicFan4Lyfe]

Great game by Jeff Green! $15 million per year to do what he does.

Nice signing Hennigan.

Everyone nows Green is either on or off. That's how his game is. We don't have a consistent scorer at SF currently.

Well, we DID have a consistently scorer at SF:

http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6440/tobias-harris

[MagicFan4Lyfe]

But we got Jeff Green- scorer extraordinaire! Nice scouting Hennigan!

[MagicFan4Lyfe]

The worst part about Vuc right now is that his value is going down every game. His percentages are downsignificantly across the board and his ppg are too. Im not sure what Vuc could even fetch us at this point. We'd have to pair him with Mario or a draft pick to get anything of value out of him

Hennigan is singlehandedly destroying any goodwill and any assets this team has. This might end up worse than the Otis Smith years. At least we had a few playoff berths and a Finals appearance to show for it. He is the WORST GM this team has ever had.

[PrimeThyme]

The sooner we do it, the better.

To trade Vuc and Fournier we would have to be getting back all star talent to replace their scoring. Unless we crate a package for John Wall, Cousins, or Paul George. Those teams can get better players for those stars.

John Wall..what a fantasy. Dude would be amazing here.

John walls someone I haven't really thought about. I would love him here. Not sure how much of a fantasy it is, with the wizards seemingly tanking right now but I'm sure we'd have to give up a ton, which I'd be all for if it could get us him.

[OrlandoDream]

To trade Vuc and Fournier we would have to be getting back all star talent to replace their scoring. Unless we crate a package for John Wall, Cousins, or Paul George. Those teams can get better players for those stars.

John Wall..what a fantasy. Dude would be amazing here.

John walls someone I haven't really thought about. I would love him here. Not sure how much of a fantasy it is, with the wizards seemingly tanking right now but I'm sure we'd have to give up a ton, which I'd be all for if it could get us him.

We would need to give up half our SL and the remaining team wouldn't even compete this year. You have to retool in the offseason and add more talent. It's a panic short term move. We've had enough of those last year.

[Catledge]

Have we had a game yet where both Vooch and Ibaka played well? Seems like we might be not-awful if that could happen.

[PrimeThyme]

John Wall..what a fantasy. Dude would be amazing here.

John walls someone I haven't really thought about. I would love him here. Not sure how much of a fantasy it is, with the wizards seemingly tanking right now but I'm sure we'd have to give up a ton, which I'd be all for if it could get us him.

We would need to give up half our SL and the remaining team wouldn't even compete this year. You have to retool in the offseason and add more talent. It's a panic short term move. We've had enough of those last year.

That's fair, but to do that and then pair him with a stud wing in the draft this year doesn't sound like the worst idea. Henny wouldn't do it though

[MagicStarwipe]

Our top 2 designated scoring options are trash and are leading us nowhere but to the lottery anyway. Time to shake up the status quo of this team. We are not a playoff team. Time to stop pretending.

The sooner we do it, the better.

To trade Vuc and Fournier we would have to be getting back all star talent to replace their scoring. Unless we crate a package for John Wall, Cousins, or Paul George. Those teams can get better players for those stars.

Trading Vucevic and Fournier would be about our future, not about now. We're not getting anything significant for either player. I'm talking about handing the team over to Payton, AG and Mario and trying again in the lottery.

[OrlandoDream]

John walls someone I haven't really thought about. I would love him here. Not sure how much of a fantasy it is, with the wizards seemingly tanking right now but I'm sure we'd have to give up a ton, which I'd be all for if it could get us him.

We would need to give up half our SL and the remaining team wouldn't even compete this year. You have to retool in the offseason and add more talent. It's a panic short term move. We've had enough of those last year.

That's fair, but to do that and then pair him with a stud wing in the draft this year doesn't sound like the worst idea. Henny wouldn't do it though

Honestly with our draft luck, I, not betting on that. Best case scenario is we somehow sign Hayward in the offseason. He would be perfect. But I know that's a lot shot.

I'm fine with moving Vuc and Fournier if the opportunity came and cont to bet on the trio EP/AG/Mario. At least they are young and have a lot of potential for growth and improvement. With Vuc and Fournier? They have peaked. These are the players we are getting as long as they are here.

[Orlwillbeback]

I don't care what our record says. Wins like these are fool's gold and we're still easily a bottom 5 team IMO.

Point differential still bottom 3 in the league

3 of our wins are against teams with depleted rosters while we have been at full strength.

[PrimeThyme]

We would need to give up half our SL and the remaining team wouldn't even compete this year. You have to retool in the offseason and add more talent. It's a panic short term move. We've had enough of those last year.

That's fair, but to do that and then pair him with a stud wing in the draft this year doesn't sound like the worst idea. Henny wouldn't do it though

Honestly with our draft luck, I, not betting on that. Best case scenario is we somehow sign Hayward in the offseason. He would be perfect. But I know that's a lot shot.

I'm fine with moving Vuc and Fournier if the opportunity came and cont to bet on the trio EP/AG/Mario. At least they are young and have a lot of potential for growth and improvement. With Vuc and Fournier? They have peaked. These are the players we are getting as long as they are here.

Yeah we have squeezed every ounce of talent out of Vuc and Evan during there tenure here. We honestly need to hand the keys over to AG/Mario/Elf and give this team a ceiling they simply just don't have with Vuc and Evan as the main guys.

[TPrince]

But we got Jeff Green- scorer extraordinaire! Nice scouting Hennigan!

Relax, Rob got Green so we have more capspace next year. After we make the playoffs this year, free agents will flock to Orlando. The plan is in place!

[MagicMadness]

I hope Hennigan knew what he was doing when he brought in Ibaka and Biz. There's no way he expected Ibaka, Biz, and Vuc to all play together, right? And he wouldn't just give Biz $80 mil to come off the bench either, right?

Someone please assure me that we all playin' checkers while Henny playin' chess..

[Jameerthefear]

That's fair, but to do that and then pair him with a stud wing in the draft this year doesn't sound like the worst idea. Henny wouldn't do it though

Honestly with our draft luck, I, not betting on that. Best case scenario is we somehow sign Hayward in the offseason. He would be perfect. But I know that's a lot shot.

I'm fine with moving Vuc and Fournier if the opportunity came and cont to bet on the trio EP/AG/Mario. At least they are young and have a lot of potential for growth and improvement. With Vuc and Fournier? They have peaked. These are the players we are getting as long as they are here.

Yeah we have squeezed every ounce of talent out of Vuc and Evan during there tenure here. We honestly need to hand the keys over to AG/Mario/Elf and give this team a ceiling they simply just don't have with Vuc and Evan as the main guys.

Why do people keep saying hand the keys over to Elfrid like his playing time has been limited or something? He's literally been starting since like day one.

[Def Swami]

That game was way closer than it needed to be.

[MagicStarwipe]

Honestly with our draft luck, I, not betting on that. Best case scenario is we somehow sign Hayward in the offseason. He would be perfect. But I know that's a lot shot.

I'm fine with moving Vuc and Fournier if the opportunity came and cont to bet on the trio EP/AG/Mario. At least they are young and have a lot of potential for growth and improvement. With Vuc and Fournier? They have peaked. These are the players we are getting as long as they are here.

Yeah we have squeezed every ounce of talent out of Vuc and Evan during there tenure here. We honestly need to hand the keys over to AG/Mario/Elf and give this team a ceiling they simply just don't have with Vuc and Evan as the main guys.

Why do people keep saying hand the keys over to Elfrid like his playing time has been limited or something? He's literally been starting since like day one.

Because he defers to like 5 players in front of him instead of having a mindset of its up to me to get it done. And he's barely had a chance to share the court with Mario and AG.