Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread II
Posted: Sat May 4, 2024 6:58 am
The only way Cole will be useful in playoffs, even if his shots fall, is to be like the defensive pest his father was.
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fendilim wrote:The only way Cole will be useful in playoffs, even if his shots fall, is to be like the defensive pest his father was.
cedric76 wrote:fendilim wrote:The only way Cole will be useful in playoffs, even if his shots fall, is to be like the defensive pest his father was.
I m excited when I think black will get his PT next season, we r gonna be very good once we unleash Jett and black
It s like we signed 3 free agents this summer: Monk+Jett+black
eyriq wrote:Anthony Black's exit interview was rough. No narrative around his long term fit or his contributions. I sense that coaches have failed to associate development areas with performance and role on the court, or the front office has failed to communicate their vision for him with this team, or he just really struggles with confidence.
It really bothers me. Definitely a huge red flag for this front office. If AB busts I'm going to be devastated, and if he hits his potential I'm going to be loath to give this front office and coaching staff any credit. **** malpractice is right.Knightro wrote:eyriq wrote:Anthony Black's exit interview was rough. No narrative around his long term fit or his contributions. I sense that coaches have failed to associate development areas with performance and role on the court, or the front office has failed to communicate their vision for him with this team, or he just really struggles with confidence.
The organization did fail him this year. Flat out.
I mean for goodness sake he literally went on record publicly before the draft and outright said he didn't think Orlando was a great fit because of how many guards they already had and that he expected them to clear space if they did pick him.
Then they went ahead and picked him and didn't trade literally any of those guards.
It was malpractice all the way around from the Magic. On what planet were they good enough this year to justify to pick a guy 6th overall and only play him out of position and because of injuries?
eyriq wrote:It really bothers me. Definitely a huge red flag for this front office. If AB busts I'm going to be devastated, and if he hits his potential I'm going to be loath to give this front office and coaching staff any credit. **** malpractice is right.Knightro wrote:eyriq wrote:Anthony Black's exit interview was rough. No narrative around his long term fit or his contributions. I sense that coaches have failed to associate development areas with performance and role on the court, or the front office has failed to communicate their vision for him with this team, or he just really struggles with confidence.
The organization did fail him this year. Flat out.
I mean for goodness sake he literally went on record publicly before the draft and outright said he didn't think Orlando was a great fit because of how many guards they already had and that he expected them to clear space if they did pick him.
Then they went ahead and picked him and didn't trade literally any of those guards.
It was malpractice all the way around from the Magic. On what planet were they good enough this year to justify to pick a guy 6th overall and only play him out of position and because of injuries?
That said, I also found moritz's exit interview really interesting. He pretty much came out and said that he wasn't planning on playing this deep into the postseason. Or at least that's what it sounded like to me. Like he was talking about getting ready for the Olympics and it sounded like he expected to have a lot more ramp up time than he actually did.
Knightro wrote:eyriq wrote:Anthony Black's exit interview was rough. No narrative around his long term fit or his contributions. I sense that coaches have failed to associate development areas with performance and role on the court, or the front office has failed to communicate their vision for him with this team, or he just really struggles with confidence.
The organization did fail him this year. Flat out.
I mean for goodness sake he literally went on record publicly before the draft and outright said he didn't think Orlando was a great fit because of how many guards they already had and that he expected them to clear space if they did pick him.
Then they went ahead and picked him and didn't trade literally any of those guards.
It was malpractice all the way around from the Magic. On what planet were they good enough this year to justify to pick a guy 6th overall and only play him out of position and because of injuries?
Broke my heart a bit and then anger at the coaching staff and front office came to the rescue. Still pissed off about it.MartinsIzAfraud wrote:eyriq wrote:It really bothers me. Definitely a huge red flag for this front office. If AB busts I'm going to be devastated, and if he hits his potential I'm going to be loath to give this front office and coaching staff any credit. **** malpractice is right.Knightro wrote:
The organization did fail him this year. Flat out.
I mean for goodness sake he literally went on record publicly before the draft and outright said he didn't think Orlando was a great fit because of how many guards they already had and that he expected them to clear space if they did pick him.
Then they went ahead and picked him and didn't trade literally any of those guards.
It was malpractice all the way around from the Magic. On what planet were they good enough this year to justify to pick a guy 6th overall and only play him out of position and because of injuries?
That said, I also found moritz's exit interview really interesting. He pretty much came out and said that he wasn't planning on playing this deep into the postseason. Or at least that's what it sounded like to me. Like he was talking about getting ready for the Olympics and it sounded like he expected to have a lot more ramp up time than he actually did.
when he got asked about long term he laughed a bit paused and then didn't really answer the question. You can tell he was unhappy with his role and how the year played out.
eyriq wrote:Anthony Black's exit interview was rough. No narrative around his long term fit or his contributions. I sense that coaches have failed to associate development areas with performance and role on the court, or the front office has failed to communicate their vision for him with this team, or he just really struggles with confidence.
That helps me feel better. A bit.SOUL wrote:Only playoff teams with more true rookie minutes (not counting Chet tbh, he has a year of NBA training):
Jaime Jaquez (23 y/o): 2113 MP
Cason Wallace (20 y/o): 1692 MP
Derrick Lively II (20 y/o): 1294 MP
Anthony Black (20 y/o) 1164 MP
Lively was hurt a bit, so add a few more minutes onto there, but I literally only count one example, Cason Wallace, of a team that had committed minutes to a player which could've gone to other people if they wanted it to. Lively was needed for a starved Mavericks team and Jaquez was needed for the Heat, and is also way older.
I think there is a massive amount of pearl clutching and narrative going around when it comes to needing to commit to him this year relative to what other playoff teams were doing.. or even lottery bound teams who didn't fully commit to their rookies until a specific time period (Jazz, Rockets).
Warriors may be a true example of a team trying to commit to two timelines, and that mixed with a lot of internal stuff made for a wonky season.
eyriq wrote:That helps me feel better. A bit.
SOUL wrote:Only playoff teams with more true rookie minutes (not counting Chet tbh, he has a year of NBA training):
Jaime Jaquez (23 y/o): 2113 MP
Cason Wallace (20 y/o): 1692 MP
Derrick Lively II (20 y/o): 1294 MP
Anthony Black (20 y/o) 1164 MP
Lively was hurt a bit, so add a few more minutes onto there, but I literally only count one example, Cason Wallace, of a team that had committed minutes to a player which could've gone to other people if they wanted it to. Lively was needed for a starved Mavericks team and Jaquez was needed for the Heat, and is also way older.
I think there is a massive amount of pearl clutching and narrative going around when it comes to needing to commit to him this year relative to what other playoff teams were doing.. or even lottery bound teams who didn't fully commit to their rookies until a specific time period (Jazz, Rockets).
Warriors may be a true example of a team trying to commit to two timelines, and that mixed with a lot of internal stuff made for a wonky season.
MagicMatic wrote:Black was a top lotto pick. He had a very successful run in games he started early. There was little to no evidence Fultz or Cole were actually significantly better options than him outside of Mosely merely making the decision. That’s kinda a far cry from comparing Hendricks to earning minutes over guys like Markk and Collins. Not really a comparison if we are being honest.
MagicMatic wrote:Anthony Black is better defensively than both CAN actually shoot the ball. That’s the difference.