All things Anfernee Simons

[JRoy]

That’s funny.

Off topic - I know a bunch of people that went to that school between 04-06 that played basketball.

My old manager lives there now and I’m in Oregon.

Lk Mary?

Yup.

I lived in the Tampa area for 21 years until moving back west in 2016.

[Skybox]

The main reason Monk comes off the bench is because Fox and he are kinda redundant. Scoring off the bench is necessary, but Fox is the main why Monk comes off the Bench. Simons would likely start in Sac because he would spread the floor for Fox and Sabonis.

I doubt it. Defense would be abysmal, and there would be no scoring off the bench.

It's not like hurter is much better in regards to defense. It is all hypothetical, but Simons is just a better Huerter than Huerter is, lol. Huerter would be the one coming off the bench in my opinion.

Simons shoots 3’s better than Huerter, but otherwise plays like Monk (5+ apg)…none of the three are good defenders. Huerter is the tallest and least athletic. Simons has the largest wingspan of the three…I like Simon’s’ odds of becoming the best defender of the three in ORL’s environment…

…and, yes, the offense was terrible.

My final is, in a vacuum, I choose Simons over Monk- but I’d be happy with Monk. Murray would be significantly better than either.

I don’t want to give up a significant player to get Simons (I’m fine with Cole, picks…).

So, if we do nothing else, of significance…then just go purchase Monk…if we have a real crack at Claxton in FA, I’d prefer to trade a little more for Simons- since we’d need to shed salary…we can’t sign Monk and Claxton outright unless we dump Mo or somehow give away salary. I guess, in theory, we could trade Cole for a pick(s) to a cap team that would take him…and then sign Monk & Claxton.

[Skybox]

My old manager lives there now and I’m in Oregon.

Lk Mary?

Yup.

I lived in the Tampa area for 21 years until moving back west in 2016.

That’s why you’re lurking around here

[JRoy]

Lk Mary?

Yup.

I lived in the Tampa area for 21 years until moving back west in 2016.

That’s why you’re lurking around here

That and the scintillating conversation.

[TheChaser]

I'm still on the develop our lotto talent bandwagon. AB, Jett, and Suggs might develop into the backcourt scoring/playmaking we need.

If we make a move for Simons I'll struggle to reconcile the move with a useful vision for AB and Jett.

I could get down with this.

[TheChaser]

Simon’s is playing on a terrible tanking team.

I don’t really qualify that as starting when the team’s objective is to lose.

Last two years Monk has played 3,591 minutes on a team that's 94-70.

Last two years Simons has played 3,753 minutes on a team that's 54-110.

But we're more willing to trade assets for Simons rather than just sign Monk with cap space because Simons plays more MPG?

I don't get it really.

Nothing to get, this is realgm

[jezzerinho]

I doubt it. Defense would be abysmal, and there would be no scoring off the bench.

It's not like hurter is much better in regards to defense. It is all hypothetical, but Simons is just a better Huerter than Huerter is, lol. Huerter would be the one coming off the bench in my opinion.

Simons shoots 3’s better than Huerter, but otherwise plays like Monk (5+ apg)…none of the three are good defenders. Huerter is the tallest and least athletic. Simons has the largest wingspan of the three…I like Simon’s’ odds of becoming the best defender of the three in ORL’s environment…

…and, yes, the offense was terrible.

My final is, in a vacuum, I choose Simons over Monk- but I’d be happy with Monk. Murray would be significantly better than either.

I don’t want to give up a significant player to get Simons (I’m fine with Cole, picks…).

So, if we do nothing else, of significance…then just go purchase Monk…if we have a real crack at Claxton in FA, I’d prefer to trade a little more for Simons- since we’d need to shed salary…we can’t sign Monk and Claxton outright unless we dump Mo or somehow give away salary. I guess, in theory, we could trade Cole for a pick(s) to a cap team that would take him…and then sign Monk & Claxton.

Dude, you are deluding ypurself about Simons. He is quantums worse as a defender. Hes in the 1st percentile by EPM - you think it's easy to be that baaaaaaad???!!!

Just watched his exit interview, to see if i can give you some benefit of the doubt that he's capable of change. Lets just say my opinion is solidified further! 14 mins of questions including inviting him to talk about areas of improvement and defence is not mentioned ONCE, despite him being atrocious.

I get he's local, i get the coolness of him being named after Penny, i get he's an offensive weapon.

But this guy is the dictionary definition of a one-way player.

I have a better chance of being traded to Orlando than Anfernee Simons.

[Skybox]

It's not like hurter is much better in regards to defense. It is all hypothetical, but Simons is just a better Huerter than Huerter is, lol. Huerter would be the one coming off the bench in my opinion.

Simons shoots 3’s better than Huerter, but otherwise plays like Monk (5+ apg)…none of the three are good defenders. Huerter is the tallest and least athletic. Simons has the largest wingspan of the three…I like Simon’s’ odds of becoming the best defender of the three in ORL’s environment…

…and, yes, the offense was terrible.

My final is, in a vacuum, I choose Simons over Monk- but I’d be happy with Monk. Murray would be significantly better than either.

I don’t want to give up a significant player to get Simons (I’m fine with Cole, picks…).

So, if we do nothing else, of significance…then just go purchase Monk…if we have a real crack at Claxton in FA, I’d prefer to trade a little more for Simons- since we’d need to shed salary…we can’t sign Monk and Claxton outright unless we dump Mo or somehow give away salary. I guess, in theory, we could trade Cole for a pick(s) to a cap team that would take him…and then sign Monk & Claxton.

Dude, you are deluding ypurself about Simons. He is quantums worse as a defender. Hes in the 1st percentile by EPM - you think it's easy to be that baaaaaaad???!!!

Just watched his exit interview, to see if i can give you some benefit of the doubt that he's capable of change. Lets just say my opinion is solidified further! 14 mins of questions including inviting him to talk about areas of improvement and defence is not mentioned ONCE, despite him being atrocious.

I get he's local, i get the coolness of him being named after Penny, i get he's an offensive weapon.

But this guy is the dictionary definition of a one-way player.

I have a better chance of being traded to Orlando than Anfernee Simons.

I couldn't care less about the local connection or the naming rights...I feel like the individual defensive metrics are generally tough on bad teams or bad teammates. I just think there's a limit to HOW BAD a freak athlete with physical gifts can be in the right environment. People are ready to draft Knecht or sign a hobbled Kennard but bury Simons...I recognize the possible limitations on his improvement, but I guess I have a lot more faith in culture and Mose than others...I don't expect him to improve his defense by 50%, but he might improve our offense by a LOT more than he negatively impacts our defense. He's a candidate for an overpay, for sure, but i think the consensus is that it won't take too much, given our favorable cap situation. The guy scores on an elite level, in ways that totally complement our core...the 'traffic cone" cracks are a lot more exaggerated and the offensive impact is way underplayed.

BUT...I don't know that I've ever heard him speak and interviews are, imo, as telling as any measurements...maybe he's just completely lacking in self-awareness. I'll check it out.

[AdamTheGreek]

I view Monk as a rich version of Cole. If you bring in Monk, Cole can’t still be on the roster. Monk is 100% not starter quality. You’re bringing him in for 6th Man scoring. I would not be thrilled if we brought him in as I don’t view him as a big upgrade addition.

I’d much rather have Simons than Trae Young. Simons has less character/attitude problems. He could benefit in coming home. Simons is not too expensive to get compared to a Young. I think he’d be OK defensively playing next to Suggs and Franz.

[drsd]

I view Monk as a rich version of Cole. If you bring in Monk, Cole can’t still be on the roster. Monk is 100% not starter quality. You’re bringing him in for 6th Man scoring. I would not be thrilled if we brought him in as I don’t view him as a big upgrade addition.

I’d much rather have Simons than Trae Young. Simons has less character/attitude problems. He could benefit in coming home. Simons is not too expensive to get compared to a Young. I think he’d be OK defensively playing next to Suggs and Franz.

I agree with all of this. But more broadly, Anthony cannot remain on the roster no matter what. His existance hinders Black's development.

I will be shocked if Anthony is in Magic blue on opening night.

And yes to Simons over Young.

[JoshuaPotter]

I view Monk as a rich version of Cole. If you bring in Monk, Cole can’t still be on the roster. Monk is 100% not starter quality. You’re bringing him in for 6th Man scoring. I would not be thrilled if we brought him in as I don’t view him as a big upgrade addition.

I’d much rather have Simons than Trae Young. Simons has less character/attitude problems. He could benefit in coming home. Simons is not too expensive to get compared to a Young. I think he’d be OK defensively playing next to Suggs and Franz.

I agree with all of this. But more broadly, Anthony cannot remain on the roster no matter what. His existance hinders Black's development.

I will be shocked if Anthony is in Magic blue on opening night.

And yes to Simons over Young.

DRSD on opening night....
https://theuselessweb.site/nooooooooooooooo/

[eyriq]

But more broadly, Anthony cannot remain on the roster no matter what. His existance hinders Black's development.

I will be shocked if Anthony is in Magic blue on opening night.

Cole is an interesting case. In the regular season he was a critical contributor. Played a lot of games and was a key driver in a handful of wins. In the playoffs he was a non-factor.

The trend is that his role is diminishing over time. My hot take is that he's moved off the team this off-season, but It sounds like you think this is an obvious take. I like it!

All the spicy scenarios involve us moving Cole.

[drsd]

But more broadly, Anthony cannot remain on the roster no matter what. His existance hinders Black's development.

I will be shocked if Anthony is in Magic blue on opening night.

Cole is an interesting case. In the regular season he was a critical contributor. Played a lot of games and was a key driver in a handful of wins. In the playoffs he was a non-factor.

The trend is that his role is diminishing over time. My hot take is that he's moved off the team this off-season, but It sounds like you think this is an obvious take. I like it!

All the spicy scenarios involve us moving Cole.

Who do you want to be the 3rd string PG, Anthony or Black? Something has to give.

[Skybox]

But more broadly, Anthony cannot remain on the roster no matter what. His existance hinders Black's development.

I will be shocked if Anthony is in Magic blue on opening night.

Cole is an interesting case. In the regular season he was a critical contributor. Played a lot of games and was a key driver in a handful of wins. In the playoffs he was a non-factor.

The trend is that his role is diminishing over time. My hot take is that he's moved off the team this off-season, but It sounds like you think this is an obvious take. I like it!

All the spicy scenarios involve us moving Cole.

Who do you want to be the 3rd string PG, Anthony or Black? Something has to give.

I think we need to add one or even two guards that will cut into Cole's spot here. I like Cole but I've been proposing trading him for a late frp and/or rotation piece or salary space...I don't agree with the idea that somebody flawed is "hindering" a player who can't beat him out. My expectations for AB don't involve hiding from Cole...I'm ready to move Cole because AB should be TAKING his playing time. Cole's deal is fair, unless he's not in the tight rotation...and he, hopefully won't be...Not a knock on Cole, just on the direction and options the team has to improve and maintain or even enhance their identity.

[drsd]

I think we need to add one or even two guards that will cut into Cole's spot here. I like Cole but I've been proposing trading him for a late frp and/or rotation piece or salary space...I don't agree with the idea that somebody flawed is "hindering" a player who can't beat him out. My expectations for AB don't involve hiding from Cole...I'm ready to move Cole because AB should be TAKING his playing time. Cole's deal is fair, unless he's not in the tight rotation...and he, hopefully won't be...Not a knock on Cole, just on the direction and options the team has to improve and maintain or even enhance their identity.

For me it is just that Orlando cannot keep Anthony and Black, so one has to go.

[basketballRob]

Bill Duffy is his agent and might be anti-Magic right now. Chet said Duffy wanted him in OKC. Duffy could be a little salty about how the Vuc trade went.

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[eyriq]

But more broadly, Anthony cannot remain on the roster no matter what. His existance hinders Black's development.

I will be shocked if Anthony is in Magic blue on opening night.

Cole is an interesting case. In the regular season he was a critical contributor. Played a lot of games and was a key driver in a handful of wins. In the playoffs he was a non-factor.

The trend is that his role is diminishing over time. My hot take is that he's moved off the team this off-season, but It sounds like you think this is an obvious take. I like it!

All the spicy scenarios involve us moving Cole.

Who do you want to be the 3rd string PG, Anthony or Black? Something has to give.

3rd string? Stop trolling me bra

[drsd]

DRSD on opening night....
https://theuselessweb.site/nooooooooooooooo/

My response:

Watch on YouTube

[JoshuaPotter]

DRSD on opening night....
https://theuselessweb.site/nooooooooooooooo/

My response:

Watch on YouTube

Us Magic fans are true pro's at mental gymnastics....

[drsd]

Simons shoots 3’s better than Huerter, but otherwise plays like Monk (5+ apg)…none of the three are good defenders. Huerter is the tallest and least athletic. Simons has the largest wingspan of the three…I like Simon’s’ odds of becoming the best defender of the three in ORL’s environment…

…and, yes, the offense was terrible.

My final is, in a vacuum, I choose Simons over Monk- but I’d be happy with Monk. Murray would be significantly better than either.

I don’t want to give up a significant player to get Simons (I’m fine with Cole, picks…).

So, if we do nothing else, of significance…then just go purchase Monk…if we have a real crack at Claxton in FA, I’d prefer to trade a little more for Simons- since we’d need to shed salary…we can’t sign Monk and Claxton outright unless we dump Mo or somehow give away salary. I guess, in theory, we could trade Cole for a pick(s) to a cap team that would take him…and then sign Monk & Claxton.

Reflective on this post, the reflection being Orlando was 30th in the league in made 3-balls and my view that Orlando needs a SG more than it needs a PG, I think Simons is the player that most improves Orlando.

The trade would be Anthony and two FRPs. But I suspect those assets are not all for the Blazers, so there is some sort of 3-team deal that leads to Simons at the Magic Kingdom, where he belongs.

If Orlando would swallow Gabe Vincent's horrible contact, the Lakers stand out here. Anthony to LAL, Simons to Orlando, some stuff between the two western teams. Orlando needs a combo-forward in this for being nice to LA. Cam Reddish clearly sucks enough to be in this discussion.

So: Orlando trades Anthony, this year's FRP and the Denver pick for Simons, Vincent, and Reddish. And becomes:

Suggs/Black/Vincent
Simons/Howard
F-Wagner/Reddish/Houstan
Banchero/Isaac
Carter/M-Wagner

Add a combo-wing and combo-big in the FA market, and to quote Mr. Smith, I like this team.


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