2024-2025 Regular Season Game 13: Indiana Pacers (5-5) at Orlando Magic (6-6) - 7pm

[Knightro]

The Magic dominated rebounding differential at +10

A very underrated part of the Magic’s success defensively is how well they play the defensive glass.

They force a lot of misses, but they also force a lot of one shot possessions too.

They give up a very small amount of 2nd chance points every night.

[yoyojw17]

There's a good reason for that to be unpopular.

I really dont give a flying F^^k. Just wanted to give an opinion that I knew was against the grain.

Sorry for being a smart ass, it's a fair take. I don't think it's particularly fair since he's having to scale up his usage and bad shots are a byproduct of that.

All of this is a learning process. Trust me... I felt the same way as well. Yup.... I would have hoped that it would have been easy to read the vibe and I wouldn't be surprised that that is something discussed after the game. They didn't need you to try and cook.... Because there were other chefs in the kitchen at that time.... Compared to earlier... Where he might have been the only one with an apron on. And it's not just him.... They might have lost their aggression as well.... And all of a sudden reverted back to "here you go".
I remember the black play to Franz cutting under the basket where Franz got blocked ... Not much France could have done on that one... But the gravity that he has made it harder for that play to work compared to if it was someone else.... Instead he was left with three players draped across him.

Personally... With 4 minutes left on the clock...... I would have let Jett and JI stay on the court. But who am I to say that Indiana would have not pulled off the same thing and we'd complaining about why Franz Goga didn't reenter the game. Haha... We never know. Indiana is still a great young team ... And that run when backed into the corner was inevitable.

[basketballRob]

AB was the primary ballhandler in the 4th, even with Franz and Suggs on the court.

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[yoyojw17]

Tnx Magic for getting this W for my birthday

Happy birthday bro!

Hope coach mose pointed this one during halftime. "But most important of all.... 'For PEPE!'..."

And everyone screamed!

[drsd]

The Magic dominated rebounding differential at +10

A very underrated part of the Magic’s success defensively is how well they play the defensive glass.

They force a lot of misses, but they also force a lot of one shot possessions too.

They give up a very small amount of 2nd chance points every night.

And-1

I know this is the Pacers thread, but this really mattered in the Hornets game. Charlotte is a very good offensive rebounding team. Orlando held them to 4 less than their seasonal average. Turner and Steele were on this all game about how well the Magic's defensive rebounding was.

Here: the Pacers is the league's worst offensive rebounding team. And the Magic held them below their pitiful average (by 1 board; but still).

In conclusion: the Magic are #1 in the league in holding teams from offensive rebounding. And by A LOT. They Magic's 7.9 offensive boards surrendered is 1.3 OR more than the second best team: the Knicks at 9.2.
Orlando is wining games by holding back second chance basket opportunities.

We are on about how great OKC's defense is; well they are the league's worst team at surrendering ORs. So, clearly the defensive metric is excluding this. And it shouldn't. Defensive rebounding keeps surrendered offensive rebounds from happening.
OKC is at 13.5 opponent ORs per game; Orlando is at 7.9 opponent ORs per game. That's wild!

[eyriq]

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[Bergmaniac]

Very impressive effort level from the team, it was the Pacers who looked like the team on a back to back for most of the 4th quarter, not us. The offense was ugly, but we got the W and held a good offensive team to way below their average. Isaac and Black were huge in the last quarter. Franz kept us in the game for most of it with very little help offensively, but was clearly tired late and kept missing, thankfully it ended up not mattering. Goga continues to dominate on the boards and that has been a major factor in our success lately.

Suggs continues to struggle with his playmaking and his shot. His shooting will improve, but he is just not a playmaker at this point and is given too much of a ballhandler role currently.

[eyriq]

Shout out to coach Mose for pretty much running a 9-man rotation

[drsd]

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One extraction from this is that F-Wagner is a clear vest winner, Bitadze for cummerbund, and Black for mittens. I had Caldwell-Pope higher based on my eye-test, but stats don't lie.

[eyriq]

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One extraction from this is that F-Wagner is a clear vest winner, Bitadze for cummerbund, and Black for mittens. I had Caldwell-Pope higher based on my eye-test, but stats don't lie.

I love the theme of AB and Goga consistently stepping up during this home stand to help Franz. Tuesday it was Suggs and Moe, but other nights it's been AB and Goga. Strong foundation.

[T-Cat]

Does anyone know what Jett Howard role on this team going forward? I feel Cole Anthony is taking his developmental minutes.

Cole probably won't be back next season.

[Optimus_Steel]

Tnx Magic for getting this W for my birthday

Happy birthday bro!

Hope coach mose pointed this one during halftime. "But most important of all.... 'For PEPE!'..."

And everyone screamed!

Paolo did not suit for his birthday but he almost did for Pepe! HBD!

[eyriq]

Does anyone know what Jett Howard role on this team going forward? I feel Cole Anthony is taking his developmental minutes.

Cole probably won't be back next season.

My sense of things is that his role is to be a three point specialist. Lot of movement actions to free him up for catch and shoot threes. I think he needs to develop a self-creation bag and improve his defensive IQ and overall motor in order to claim a more significant role in the offense. Cole does seem like the most obvious blocker.

[RichCollab]

AB was the primary ballhandler in the 4th, even with Franz and Suggs on the court.

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Whatever you do don’t call him a PG!!!

[RichCollab]

Does anyone know what Jett Howard role on this team going forward? I feel Cole Anthony is taking his developmental minutes.

Cole probably won't be back next season.

My sense of things is that his role is to be a three point specialist. Lot of movement actions to free him up for catch and shoot threes. I think he needs to develop a self-creation bag and improve his defensive IQ and overall motor in order to claim a more significant role in the offense. Cole does seem like the most obvious blocker.

It’s going to be hard to develop Black, TDS, and Jett all this year. I’m happy 2 out of 3 are getting minutes and contributing.

Jett will likely get minutes after injuries.

Cole is climbing out of the grave. We need a microwave scorer so I’m not against a back from the dead Cole bringing offense punch on 2nd unit.

[Optimus_Steel]

Had Jarrace Walker not gone off last week in Indiana the Magic would have won that one too.

[Last Guardian]

Pretty good game. We hung around and then took over, but the last 5 minutes were fairly brutal. I love aggressive Franz. The Paolo injury had one blessing and thats Franz is finding his confidence. We need them both to be high level offensively if we are going to beat the best teams.

AB also finding his groove is huge for the team. AB and Suggs is a hell of backcourt going forward. I do think Magic will win it all a few years from now and they will be the starting backcourt.

[KillMonger]

#2 behind the Thunder:
https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/defensive-efficiency

Looking at the top-7, these are the best teams in the respective conference. Scoring is up league wide, but defense is still what wins games!

Important to point out OKC defense is best in past 10 years, by def rating. So in any other normal situation we would be 1#

If okc can keep that up without Chet and IHart until December, then ill acknowledge that they really are better than us in defense.

Chet is done for the season, i might be wrong but i have never seen someone come back from a significant hip injury in less than a year

[KillMonger]

Does anyone know what Jett Howard role on this team going forward? I feel Cole Anthony is taking his developmental minutes.

Cole probably won't be back next season.

they got to figure something out...he plays the least minutes but he's top 3 in 3pt makes on the team....he's one of the few players actually hitting shots