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Post#381 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Mon Mar 3, 2025 2:07 am

Some here talking about lottery picks, are you serious? We have enough drafted players on this team. Whether we win in the playoffs or not, what these guys need is playoff experience. It will be more beneficial for Franz and Paolo, than sitting home doing nothing. This team need a point guard, better vets, and more experienced shooters. What we don’t need is another lottery pick to develop.
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Post#382 » by Knightro » Mon Mar 3, 2025 2:11 am

ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:Some here talking about lottery picks, are you serious? We have enough drafted players on this team. Whether we win in the playoffs or not, what these guys need is playoff experience. It will be more beneficial for Franz and Paolo, than sitting home doing nothing. This team need a point guard, better vets, and more experienced shooters. What we don’t need is another lottery pick to develop.


I guess for a lot people the thought is the higher the draft pick the more valuable it would be in a potential trade.
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Post#383 » by ogmagicfan » Mon Mar 3, 2025 2:11 am

mattyBoi wrote:Paolo is not point forward and he's being asked to be. He is surrounded by horrible shooters and teams routinely double team him without paying for it. It's not his fault.


One of the more encouraging things last offseason was when Paolo asked for a PG

He's aware of not only his shortcomings but the teams shortcomings, and was willing to call out our FO publicly on what we need and dont have in order to take us to the next level

I'd be alot more concerned if Paolo still wanted to be a point forward still even though its apparent its not working out for our team
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Post#384 » by SOUL » Mon Mar 3, 2025 2:13 am

Heat fans not happy with Spo. That's the only coach I'd swap right now unless there's some wunderkind out there. Otherwise give the man a point guard. If we saw Cory Jo have some positive effect...
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Post#385 » by thelead » Mon Mar 3, 2025 2:13 am

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thelead wrote:Not gonna lie, I really liked Paolo’s approach to the game tonight. Very few ‘bad’ shots and kept it moving. 73.7 TS%.

It’s not his fault his guards sucked.


I thought he pretty much sucked until that late flurry during the final stretch.

With three minutes left in the game and the Magic down 13, he only had 12 points and 4 turnovers.

Wasn’t his best game, for sure, but I liked the approach of not forcing things. He needs to spend the summer on 3’s and finishing through contact in the paint.
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Post#386 » by Knightro » Mon Mar 3, 2025 2:14 am

SOUL wrote:Heat fans not happy with Spo. That's the only coach I'd swap right now unless there's some wunderkind out there. Otherwise give the man a point guard. If we saw Cory Jo have some positive effect...


I don’t think losing Mosley would change literally anything negatively.

He’s fine. I like him. But coaches are hired to be fired. I have absolutely no problem going a different direction.

It’s a tough business, but he knows what’s up.
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Post#387 » by Optimus_Steel » Mon Mar 3, 2025 2:15 am

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ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:Some here talking about lottery picks, are you serious? We have enough drafted players on this team. Whether we win in the playoffs or not, what these guys need is playoff experience. It will be more beneficial for Franz and Paolo, than sitting home doing nothing. This team need a point guard, better vets, and more experienced shooters. What we don’t need is another lottery pick to develop.


I guess for a lot people the thought is the higher the draft pick the more valuable it would be in a potential trade.




Precisely. Maximizing assets for trades because there will need to be major overhaul over the summer.
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Post#388 » by SOUL » Mon Mar 3, 2025 2:15 am

thelead wrote:
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thelead wrote:Not gonna lie, I really liked Paolo’s approach to the game tonight. Very few ‘bad’ shots and kept it moving. 73.7 TS%.

It’s not his fault his guards sucked.


I thought he pretty much sucked until that late flurry during the final stretch.

With three minutes left in the game and the Magic down 13, he only had 12 points and 4 turnovers.

Wasn’t his best game, for sure, but I liked the approach of not forcing things. He needs to spend the summer on 3’s and finishing through contact in the paint.


If he was being "heady" then I agree but it legit looked like he couldn't get around anybody at all and then would finish weak. The Paolo in the 4th is great. The aggressiveness to get foul calls is great. But the self-creation aspect looks like his brain wants to do 4-5 things and then just settles for something random. It's not cerebral yet.
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Post#389 » by 89Magicfan » Mon Mar 3, 2025 2:15 am

ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:Some here talking about lottery picks, are you serious? We have enough drafted players on this team. Whether we win in the playoffs or not, what these guys need is playoff experience. It will be more beneficial for Franz and Paolo, than sitting home doing nothing. This team need a point guard, better vets, and more experienced shooters. What we don’t need is another lottery pick to develop.



I agree it’s just Weltman doesn’t do anything but draft. Doesn’t use the trade deadline, doesn’t do much trades as it is. Resigns his own players, occasional washed up vet, that’s it. Draft is the only tool he uses. Sad I know.
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Post#390 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Mon Mar 3, 2025 2:16 am

basketballRob wrote:Believe it or not, but we're still in 7th place.

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We are not. We are in 8th.
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Post#391 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Mon Mar 3, 2025 2:17 am

Knightro wrote:
ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:Some here talking about lottery picks, are you serious? We have enough drafted players on this team. Whether we win in the playoffs or not, what these guys need is playoff experience. It will be more beneficial for Franz and Paolo, than sitting home doing nothing. This team need a point guard, better vets, and more experienced shooters. What we don’t need is another lottery pick to develop.


I guess for a lot people the thought is the higher the draft pick the more valuable it would be in a potential trade.

We had the #6 and #11 pick in the 2023 draft and he didn't trade those. I doubt he would trade this one.
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Post#392 » by 89Magicfan » Mon Mar 3, 2025 2:18 am

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Knightro wrote:
I thought he pretty much sucked until that late flurry during the final stretch.

With three minutes left in the game and the Magic down 13, he only had 12 points and 4 turnovers.

Wasn’t his best game, for sure, but I liked the approach of not forcing things. He needs to spend the summer on 3’s and finishing through contact in the paint.


If he was being "heady" then I agree but it legit looked like he couldn't get around anybody at all and then would finish weak. The Paolo in the 4th is great. The aggressiveness to get foul calls is great. But the self-creation aspect looks like his brain wants to do 4-5 things and then just settles for something random. It's not cerebral yet.


He was super efficient though green font.

F that give me old Paolo.
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Post#393 » by BlueBalls » Mon Mar 3, 2025 2:18 am

ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:Some here talking about lottery picks, are you serious? We have enough drafted players on this team. Whether we win in the playoffs or not, what these guys need is playoff experience. It will be more beneficial for Franz and Paolo, than sitting home doing nothing. This team need a point guard, better vets, and more experienced shooters. What we don’t need is another lottery pick to develop.


We’ve really done well buying the players instead of drafting them. KCP says hi.

Ideally, you get a lotto pick and have a new GM to use it.

There are players in this draft not named Flagg who. an really help this team. If Weltman makes the pick, he’ll find a way to grab the farthest thing from what we need. So why should we want the lotto pick if Weltman’s still here? If it’s high enough, we’ll get something useful.

And said new GM can gut this roster, now, before it’s too late. Nothing here worth keeping other than PB/FW/JS. Isaac would be if they’d take him out of his protective case and let him play 25-30 mins. Anything and everything else can go.
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Post#394 » by KillMonger » Mon Mar 3, 2025 2:18 am

thelead wrote:
Knightro wrote:
thelead wrote:Not gonna lie, I really liked Paolo’s approach to the game tonight. Very few ‘bad’ shots and kept it moving. 73.7 TS%.

It’s not his fault his guards sucked.


I thought he pretty much sucked until that late flurry during the final stretch.

With three minutes left in the game and the Magic down 13, he only had 12 points and 4 turnovers.

Wasn’t his best game, for sure, but I liked the approach of not forcing things. He needs to spend the summer on 3’s and finishing through contact in the paint.
He was fine he had 4 turnovers with 2 of them being guys that couldn't catch the damn ball. He was playing measured trying to move the ball... Seems like he can't win for losing.... Complains when he isos..... Complains when he's trying to get others involved....its crazy man, this season has been very eye opening

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Post#395 » by SOUL » Mon Mar 3, 2025 2:19 am

Knightro wrote:
SOUL wrote:Heat fans not happy with Spo. That's the only coach I'd swap right now unless there's some wunderkind out there. Otherwise give the man a point guard. If we saw Cory Jo have some positive effect...


I don’t think losing Mosley would change literally anything negatively.

He’s fine. I like him. But coaches are hired to be fired. I have absolutely no problem going a different direction.

It’s a tough business, but he knows what’s up.


I get that coaches are the easiest thing to flip.

I just refuse to think a coach that gets unprompted praise from stars of other teams and coaches of other teams like no one we've ever had is going to get canned for a bad two month stretch with ZERO moves from our front office to get the team better.

We've been good ever since we started 5-20 two seasons ago. Finished the second half really strong with a team full of children.

Had an above average year last year with top 3 defense and pushed the Cavs to 7 games.

Stayed 4th seed on pace for 50+ wins until the wheels started coming off the last two months.

The punishment doesn't seem to match the crime of struggling badly the last few months.
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Post#396 » by FFBlitzace » Mon Mar 3, 2025 2:19 am

I don't see Mose's seat being even remotely warm. I think it only heats up if we struggle to begin next season and look lifeless. The thing is, I wouldn't want him fired in-season though, since I have never taken the rest of our staff seriously whatsoever. Having one of them take over as interim would be laughable. So considering I expect Mose to 100% open the season as our coach, I wouldn't personally start wanting to part ways until summer 2026, and that's only if next season is a failure.
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Post#398 » by byeganyo » Mon Mar 3, 2025 2:22 am

ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:
Knightro wrote:
ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:Some here talking about lottery picks, are you serious? We have enough drafted players on this team. Whether we win in the playoffs or not, what these guys need is playoff experience. It will be more beneficial for Franz and Paolo, than sitting home doing nothing. This team need a point guard, better vets, and more experienced shooters. What we don’t need is another lottery pick to develop.


I guess for a lot people the thought is the higher the draft pick the more valuable it would be in a potential trade.

We had the #6 and #11 pick in the 2023 draft and he didn't trade those. I doubt he would trade this one.


With Weltman this team is going nowhere, if sucking hard enough gives some chance of getting rid of him, things can change, regarding trading picks too..
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Post#399 » by VFX » Mon Mar 3, 2025 2:22 am

Season is a wash tbh. This game kinda sealed it IMO.

We are only** down Suggs and lose to a clearly tanking inferior team at home.

Just tank, get a higher valued pick to trade, and make some serious moves this offseason. Fire Mosely if you cannot possibly upgrade your assistant coaching staff. Fire Weltman because we landed here due to him.
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Post#400 » by Husky1 » Mon Mar 3, 2025 2:24 am

Put your hand up here if you fell for that Cole Anthony resurgence? Fool us once shame on you, fool us 5 years in a row shame on us!

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