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Post#381 » by BlueBlazer » Wed Jun 18, 2025 7:45 pm

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thelead wrote:We traded 2 guards for 1, then cut 2 more guards. No way we are done. More has to happen.


Clayton at 25 and full MLE on Alexander-Walker?

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Post#382 » by thelead » Wed Jun 18, 2025 7:54 pm

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thelead wrote:We traded 2 guards for 1, then cut 2 more guards. No way we are done. More has to happen.


Clayton at 25 and full MLE on Alexander-Walker?

Am I crazy for liking Ty exponentially more than NAW?
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Post#383 » by Knightro » Wed Jun 18, 2025 8:01 pm

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thelead wrote:We traded 2 guards for 1, then cut 2 more guards. No way we are done. More has to happen.


Clayton at 25 and full MLE on Alexander-Walker?

Am I crazy for liking Ty exponentially more than NAW?


Crazy? No.

I just think they’re very different players and I think whatever your opinion is on what Anthony Black is going to be moving forward would go a long way towards determining which guy you would prefer in free agency.
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Post#384 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 8:21 pm

Knightro wrote:
thelead wrote:We traded 2 guards for 1, then cut 2 more guards. No way we are done. More has to happen.


Clayton at 25 and full MLE on Alexander-Walker?


This is the way.
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Post#385 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 8:28 pm

thelead wrote:
Knightro wrote:
thelead wrote:We traded 2 guards for 1, then cut 2 more guards. No way we are done. More has to happen.


Clayton at 25 and full MLE on Alexander-Walker?

Am I crazy for liking Ty exponentially more than NAW?


No, not crazy but our front office has shown us who they are countless times and I think it’s time for us to believe them.

If you’re unable to play both sides of the court, you’re not a realistic target.

Ty is really good, but was played off the court in the playoffs and just too much of defensive liability.

Even with the slight exception to Cole Anthony, he was an athletic freak and I think for his height was in the top 90 percentile in blocks.

Jett Howard was a nepotism pick.
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Post#386 » by Skybox » Wed Jun 18, 2025 8:34 pm

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As a Goga replacement would make sense. Also only 1 year so doesn’t hurt long term. Possibly dish out Jett and 2nd or some ****


WAY more upside than Goga

and WCJ

and Moe

depends on the price.
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Post#387 » by Skybox » Wed Jun 18, 2025 9:03 pm

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MartinsIzAfraud wrote:
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As a Goga replacement would make sense. Also only 1 year so doesn’t hurt long term. Possibly dish out Jett and 2nd or some ****


WAY more upside than Goga

and WCJ

and Moe

depends on the price.


Honestly, I don't mind the Isaac-type situation (limited minutes) as long as they're paid appropriately and don't miss extended stretches. If that was required (and sufficient to keep him in the rotation) - great role player, at least!

and I do believe LAL backed out - which is not to say he has some less than ideal MRIs in his file...I also believe LAL messed up on that one.
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Post#388 » by thelead » Wed Jun 18, 2025 9:05 pm

Skybox wrote:
Skybox wrote:
MartinsIzAfraud wrote:
Read on Twitter


As a Goga replacement would make sense. Also only 1 year so doesn’t hurt long term. Possibly dish out Jett and 2nd or some ****


WAY more upside than Goga

and WCJ

and Moe

depends on the price.


Honestly, I don't mind the Isaac-type situation (limited minutes) as long as they're paid appropriately and don't miss extended stretches. If that was required (and sufficient to keep him in the rotation) - great role player, at least!

and I do believe LAL backed out - which is not to say he has some less than ideal MRIs in his file...I also believe LAL messed up on that one.

Depending on costs, go make Paolo happy. Paolo threw up plenty of lobs to him at Duke.
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Post#389 » by Skybox » Wed Jun 18, 2025 9:07 pm

thelead wrote:
Skybox wrote:
Skybox wrote:
WAY more upside than Goga

and WCJ

and Moe

depends on the price.


Honestly, I don't mind the Isaac-type situation (limited minutes) as long as they're paid appropriately and don't miss extended stretches. If that was required (and sufficient to keep him in the rotation) - great role player, at least!

and I do believe LAL backed out - which is not to say he has some less than ideal MRIs in his file...I also believe LAL messed up on that one.

Depending on costs, go make Paolo happy. Paolo threw up plenty of lobs to him at Duke.


We don't have a single guy like that...Suggs at 6'4 might be our biggest lob threat ...with Cole gone :noway:

that's a really practical play for a team full of penetrators...watch IND...it's just a smart modern play to drive and kick to the perimeter OR lob to a following big as soon as his man commits to the ballhandler.
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Post#390 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 9:12 pm

Skybox wrote:
MartinsIzAfraud wrote:
Read on Twitter


As a Goga replacement would make sense. Also only 1 year so doesn’t hurt long term. Possibly dish out Jett and 2nd or some ****


WAY more upside than Goga

and WCJ

and Moe

depends on the price.


Unless his value has dropped significantly (which is probably a red flag), not sure what Orlando can offer that would make sense for Charlotte.

I could see them having some interest in Howard, but that can’t be nearly enough. With no real pick equity I don’t see it.

HOWEVER, for ish and giggles maybe Orlando eats bad salary?

Grant Williams
Mark Williams
Josh Green

For

Jett Howard
Goga Bitazde
Jonathan Isaac

Again, not sure why they do this and if it’s even worth it but it works.

Suggs/MLE/WCJ? (#25)
Bane/Green/vet. min.
Wagner/TDS/Houstan
Banchero/Williams/#46
Carter/Williams/#57
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#391 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 9:17 pm

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
Skybox wrote:
MartinsIzAfraud wrote:
Read on Twitter


As a Goga replacement would make sense. Also only 1 year so doesn’t hurt long term. Possibly dish out Jett and 2nd or some ****


WAY more upside than Goga

and WCJ

and Moe

depends on the price.


Unless his value has dropped significantly (which is probably a red flag), not sure what Orlando can offer that would make sense for Charlotte.

I could see them having some interest in Howard, but that can’t be nearly enough. With no real pick equity I don’t see it.

HOWEVER, for ish and giggles maybe Orlando eats bad salary?

Grant Williams
Mark Williams
Josh Green

For

Jett Howard
Goga Bitazde
Jonathan Isaac

Again, not sure why they do this and if it’s even worth it but it works.

Suggs/MLE/WCJ? (#25)
Bane/Green/vet. min.
Wagner/TDS/Houstan
Banchero/Williams/#46
Carter/Williams/#57


I feel like Skybox writing this out :lol:
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Post#392 » by Skybox » Wed Jun 18, 2025 9:18 pm

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
Skybox wrote:
MartinsIzAfraud wrote:
Read on Twitter


As a Goga replacement would make sense. Also only 1 year so doesn’t hurt long term. Possibly dish out Jett and 2nd or some ****


WAY more upside than Goga

and WCJ

and Moe

depends on the price.


Unless his value has dropped significantly (which is probably a red flag), not sure what Orlando can offer that would make sense for Charlotte.

I could see them having some interest in Howard, but that can’t be nearly enough. With no real pick equity I don’t see it.

HOWEVER, for ish and giggles maybe Orlando eats bad salary?

Grant Williams
Mark Williams
Josh Green

For

Jett Howard
Goga Bitazde
Jonathan Isaac

Again, not sure why they do this and if it’s even worth it but it works.

Suggs/MLE/WCJ? (#25)
Bane/Green/vet. min.
Wagner/TDS/Houstan
Banchero/Williams/#46
Carter/Williams/#57


That's interesting...Grant Williams was a major contributor on the Celtics, but then went downhill fast - I don't really know why. He was considered a locker room cancer in DAL, but you never know who the real culprits are sometimes. Those were some kind of dysfunctional times in DAL with Carlisle/Mosely, Luka/Porzingis tension...Mose would know what he's about. The guy kind of disappeared in CHA.

If happy and healthy, he's a formidable bruiser who can hit 3's at a high clip off the bench...Looks like an even bigger Bane. I worry about what "could be" with Isaac, but I'd do your trade...maybe even add some srps. Not sure I'd entertain #25 and I know I wouldn't even discuss it without a full endorsement of Grant from Mosely.

Edit: Grant's only 26 :o the BOS era for him feels like a decade ago.
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Post#393 » by Skybox » Wed Jun 18, 2025 9:27 pm

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
Skybox wrote:
WAY more upside than Goga

and WCJ

and Moe

depends on the price.


Unless his value has dropped significantly (which is probably a red flag), not sure what Orlando can offer that would make sense for Charlotte.

I could see them having some interest in Howard, but that can’t be nearly enough. With no real pick equity I don’t see it.

HOWEVER, for ish and giggles maybe Orlando eats bad salary?

Grant Williams
Mark Williams
Josh Green

For

Jett Howard
Goga Bitazde
Jonathan Isaac

Again, not sure why they do this and if it’s even worth it but it works.

Suggs/MLE/WCJ? (#25)
Bane/Green/vet. min.
Wagner/TDS/Houstan
Banchero/Williams/#46
Carter/Williams/#57


I feel like Skybox writing this out :lol:


You got me...I know my trade "explains" end up like some Unabomber letter.

I really like this trade...you left AB out of the lineup.

I'm not so sure there's really any bad salary...at least, if the players are on their best behavior...would definitely need some character references. Again, this is where Mose's real value might lie - in connecting with players and keeping them on the rails. Grant was a real contributor and fits ORL's profile...versatile, physical defender, shoots 3's, bad attitude...physical bully who can defend multiple spots. I see him listed at 6'6 236, but I think his lower body weighed that...he had a nasty Barkley vibe (as a role player)...with Mose's reference, I add a couple srps.
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#394 » by RookieStar » Wed Jun 18, 2025 9:58 pm

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
RichCollab wrote:
MartinsIzAfraud wrote:
Read on Twitter


As a Goga replacement would make sense. Also only 1 year so doesn’t hurt long term. Possibly dish out Jett and 2nd or some ****


Dude is a walking injury and failed a trade physical.

Vet min, 3rd string spot big. Maybe. I don’t think we are desperate. We don’t need injury lottery tickets. He need consistent role players.


I mean even if he’s available 70% of the season, that alone is better than what Jett and seconds could provide.

There’s also Paolo/Duke connection.


Yeah.. him and Paolo were in that unforgettable last ride of coach K where they lost in the F4 against UNC of all teams... :( :( :(

With that said.. Mark has back issues. Do we want a C like that?And you think WCJ and JI gets injured a lot..
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Post#395 » by RookieStar » Wed Jun 18, 2025 9:59 pm

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
Skybox wrote:
MartinsIzAfraud wrote:
Read on Twitter


As a Goga replacement would make sense. Also only 1 year so doesn’t hurt long term. Possibly dish out Jett and 2nd or some ****


WAY more upside than Goga

and WCJ

and Moe

depends on the price.


Unless his value has dropped significantly (which is probably a red flag), not sure what Orlando can offer that would make sense for Charlotte.

I could see them having some interest in Howard, but that can’t be nearly enough. With no real pick equity I don’t see it.

HOWEVER, for ish and giggles maybe Orlando eats bad salary?

Grant Williams
Mark Williams
Josh Green

For

Jett Howard
Goga Bitazde
Jonathan Isaac

Again, not sure why they do this and if it’s even worth it but it works.

Suggs/MLE/WCJ? (#25)
Bane/Green/vet. min.
Wagner/TDS/Houstan
Banchero/Williams/#46
Carter/Williams/#57


We eat bad salary? Ummm aren't we having problems with our own salary already?
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Post#396 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 10:00 pm

Skybox wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
Unless his value has dropped significantly (which is probably a red flag), not sure what Orlando can offer that would make sense for Charlotte.

I could see them having some interest in Howard, but that can’t be nearly enough. With no real pick equity I don’t see it.

HOWEVER, for ish and giggles maybe Orlando eats bad salary?

Grant Williams
Mark Williams
Josh Green

For

Jett Howard
Goga Bitazde
Jonathan Isaac

Again, not sure why they do this and if it’s even worth it but it works.

Suggs/MLE/WCJ? (#25)
Bane/Green/vet. min.
Wagner/TDS/Houstan
Banchero/Williams/#46
Carter/Williams/#57


I feel like Skybox writing this out :lol:


You got me...I know my trade "explains" end up like some Unabomber letter.

I really like this trade...you left AB out of the lineup.


Apologies, I’m still in disbelief that we were able to acquire Bane without giving up one single young asset.
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Post#397 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 10:03 pm

RookieStar wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
RichCollab wrote:
Dude is a walking injury and failed a trade physical.

Vet min, 3rd string spot big. Maybe. I don’t think we are desperate. We don’t need injury lottery tickets. He need consistent role players.


I mean even if he’s available 70% of the season, that alone is better than what Jett and seconds could provide.

There’s also Paolo/Duke connection.


Yeah.. him and Paolo were in that unforgettable last ride of coach K where they lost in the F4 against UNC of all teams... :( :( :(

With that said.. Mark has back issues. Do we want a C like that?And you think WCJ and JI gets injured a lot..


Depends the asking price.

Orlando kinda has to jump on these low risk/high reward kind of moves given their current situation.

Williams could be the difference maker in a playoff setting. Lakers knew exactly what kind of player he can be.

If we are able to rehabilitate Isaac from the dead, I think Williams will be just fine.
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Post#398 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 10:08 pm

RookieStar wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
Skybox wrote:
WAY more upside than Goga

and WCJ

and Moe

depends on the price.


Unless his value has dropped significantly (which is probably a red flag), not sure what Orlando can offer that would make sense for Charlotte.

I could see them having some interest in Howard, but that can’t be nearly enough. With no real pick equity I don’t see it.

HOWEVER, for ish and giggles maybe Orlando eats bad salary?

Grant Williams
Mark Williams
Josh Green

For

Jett Howard
Goga Bitazde
Jonathan Isaac

Again, not sure why they do this and if it’s even worth it but it works.

Suggs/MLE/WCJ? (#25)
Bane/Green/vet. min.
Wagner/TDS/Houstan
Banchero/Williams/#46
Carter/Williams/#57


We eat bad salary? Ummm aren't we having problems with our own salary already?


Well I mean bad, but can be serviceable salary that isn’t a detriment to the longterm plan. None of these players have contracts that extend more than 2 seasons.

Orlando would come into next summer with a little over 30M in expirings and gives us more shooting/upside.
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Post#399 » by RookieStar » Wed Jun 18, 2025 10:08 pm

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
I mean even if he’s available 70% of the season, that alone is better than what Jett and seconds could provide.

There’s also Paolo/Duke connection.


Yeah.. him and Paolo were in that unforgettable last ride of coach K where they lost in the F4 against UNC of all teams... :( :( :(

With that said.. Mark has back issues. Do we want a C like that?And you think WCJ and JI gets injured a lot..


Depends the asking price.

Orlando kinda has to jump on these low risk/high reward kind of moves given their current situation.

Williams could be the difference maker in a playoff setting. Lakers knew exactly what kind of player he can be.

If we are able to rehabilitate Isaac from the dead, I think Williams will be just fine.


Yeah... do we have 2 seasons to rerhab him though? We kinda need help this season.
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Post#400 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 10:31 pm

RookieStar wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
Yeah.. him and Paolo were in that unforgettable last ride of coach K where they lost in the F4 against UNC of all teams... :( :( :(

With that said.. Mark has back issues. Do we want a C like that?And you think WCJ and JI gets injured a lot..


Depends the asking price.

Orlando kinda has to jump on these low risk/high reward kind of moves given their current situation.

Williams could be the difference maker in a playoff setting. Lakers knew exactly what kind of player he can be.

If we are able to rehabilitate Isaac from the dead, I think Williams will be just fine.


Yeah... do we have 2 seasons to rerhab him though? We kinda need help this season.


Williams isn’t currently injured lol

He’s going into this summer fully “healthy” and ended the end of last season on a tear (no pun intended).

He presents as much risk (if not less) as Jonathan Isaac which seems to be on a permanent minutes restriction.

Orlando simply can’t afford to pay Isaac $15M to play 15m a night. We do not have that luxury anymore.

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