Official 2024-2025 Magic Trade ideas thread continued

[VFX]

Simons isn't worth that much imo.

Give or take the 2 later firsts?

[SOUL]

Simons isn't worth that much imo.

Give or take the 2 later firsts?

If they want Jett maybe swap that in, or take away a first. Two seems good where one is late lottery and the other in the 20s.

[basketballRob]

I'd need Simons to agree to a contract extension starting at around $14m before I'd trade for him.

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[Skybox]

Simons isn't worth that much imo.

I agree. WCJ + #16 for Simons is probably fair value.

I just like that he brought back Keyonte George lol

I think useless players +#16 (Gary, Cole, Jett...)
or
WCJ and #25 (I don't really know how receptive POR would be - I know it makes sense with addtl moves, but that's another step

I'd love to send KCP for Simons with some filler and #25

if not #25, maybe a near future frp...a good move made and some reasonable luck and #16 should be as good as it gets for the next few years.

[JRoy]

Not interested in WCJ.

Useless salary and 16 works.

[Skybox]

I'd need Simons to agree to a contract extension starting at around $14m before I'd trade for him.

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too low, $20m is more realistic

[RichCollab]

I'd need Simons to agree to a contract extension starting at around $14m before I'd trade for him.

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too low, $20m is more realistic

20 million for a bench player?

[Skybox]

Posted by a non-Magic fan on trade boards...

Klay/Hardy/#11
for
KCP/#16/#25

*My reaction is that if Maluach was there at #11, DONE!

If not, DAL can probably spare Gafford, with Lively and AD in-house, so...

ORL sends: KCP, Jett, 16 & 25
DAL sends: Klay, Gafford, #11

or...
ORL sends: KCP, Goga, #16, #46
DAL sends:Klay, Gafford, Hardy, #11

...I honestly like the OP (with Maluach) the best. I don't care that much about Klay, but he can still certainly shoot and he's considerably less per year than KCP, for the same amount of years. I don't think we really need KCP with AB & Suggs...I still think a PG would need to be obtained, but this trade would be a big parallel step in the right direction.

[fendilim]

I'd need Simons to agree to a contract extension starting at around $14m before I'd trade for him.

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too low, $20m is more realistic

20 million for a bench player?

for a 6th man? That’s justifiable. Thats just close to MLE next next yr

[MasterGMer]

Will Magic even use MLE tho?

That's $14M a year for 3 years.

2025-25 already in books $175M , without 2 first round picks. ( cumulative + $6,5).

= $ 195M


The league said the salary cap is “projected to be” $154.6M and the luxury tax is “projected to be” $187.9M. In addition, the “first apron projects to be” $195.9M and the second apron $207.8M


So you are already in luxury tax, at first aprone. Before Banchero's contract.


Going into 2026-27, with MLE Magic salary would look something like this:
$46M Banchero
$41M Franz
$32,4M Suggs
$21M KCP
$ 14M MLE
$18M Carter
$14,5M Isaac
$17,5M for Black & Jett (expiring, RFA)- team options for 4th year, probably will be picked
$7M Goga
x2 2025 rookies + 2026 rookie = 10M

= $220M roster

That is *probably* second apron team, 100% knees deep in luxury tax. After that your whole flexibility will be ability to resign own players.

If Banchero/ Franz turn into all nba players, salary situation gets that much worst.

The problem with this team for the future is how can they afford this team?

Paolo is a max plus Franz, adding Jalen Suggs that is most of your cap space.

Then AB's Rookie extension is up plus you keep the role players like KCP and JI

If this young core doesn't pan out, this is it. You are not going to contend a Championship

I see a lot of similarities from Paolo and Franz with Tatum and Jaylen Brown. But do we have the supporting cast? That is the question because this Magic squad is not going to have a lot of flexibilities

[Idiosyncratic]

Posted by a non-Magic fan on trade boards...

Klay/Hardy/#11
for
KCP/#16/#25

*My reaction is that if Maluach was there at #11, DONE!

If not, DAL can probably spare Gafford, with Lively and AD in-house, so...

ORL sends: KCP, Jett, 16 & 25
DAL sends: Klay, Gafford, #11

or...
ORL sends: KCP, Goga, #16, #46
DAL sends:Klay, Gafford, Hardy, #11

...I honestly like the OP (with Maluach) the best. I don't care that much about Klay, but he can still certainly shoot and he's considerably less per year than KCP, for the same amount of years. I don't think we really need KCP with AB & Suggs...I still think a PG would need to be obtained, but this trade would be a big parallel step in the right direction.

I think Klay is pretty washed and obviously only going downhill, but still somewhat useful, maybe a better fit than Caldwell-Pope. Actually not sure we would be doing better this series with him, defense is hard to measure.

BUT regardless, moving up is the prize here, and I have been thinking of a trade up like this, but to me it all depends on who falls. I would do this if Jase falls to 11, but I don't think there are that many other guys I am moving up for personally.

[thelead]

Read on Twitter

Woah, hadn’t even considered that. Very interesting.

*edit: I wonder if some kind of Dame/Ja multi-team trade could happen? Bucks are gonna want another star guard back in some form because they won’t have picks to rebuild until 2030

Well... looks like Dame just tore his achilles so you can cross him off the list

[basketballRob]

I'd need Simons to agree to a contract extension starting at around $14m before I'd trade for him.

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too low, $20m is more realistic

I'll pass. You could just give $3m to Gary Trent Jr

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[JRoy]

Trade idea 1:

Orlando trades:
Cole Anthony, Anthony Black, Jett Howard, 2025 ORL frp, 2025 DEN frp.

Utah trades:
Walker Kessler, Colin Sexton, Keyonte George, 2025 2nd (mocked #43 via Dallas)

Why for Utah? They have a million bigs and no guards or wings. This shores up their back court should they land Coop. AB is a big piece they can build around. Ainge gets his multiple picks so he feels like he won.

Orlando lands their rim protector, quality rebounder, and screen setter. They get their back court draw to pair with Suggs and a better fitting prospect in George for second unit scoring. People won’t like adding AB, but Utah isn’t giving away value to Orlando just because.

Trade Carter for a backup point guard and expirings somewhere.

Trade 2:

Orlando trades:
Wendell Carter, Cole Anthony, 2025 ORL frp , 2025 DEN frp, 2026 ORL frp.

Portland trades:
A Simons, Rayan Rupert

Orlando finally lands elite back court creation. They get a decent wing prospect from a team with a crowded guard rotation.

Portland gets 3 picks. They can focus on building their future back court. Carter makes some of their bigs more expendable for other moves without sacrificing a ton of cap.


The bottom line is that Orlando isn’t going to land everything they need in this draft. Use the picks to address the issues with the starting lineup, and not to fortify the bench. Get Paolo and Franz the help they need sooner than later.

Trade #2 is a significant overpay. Expiring and 16 is good enough for Simon’s.

[OrlandoDream]

KCP, Jett and 16 for Simons is enough. The 16 pick for possibly a one year rental of simmons is enough. Im not overpaying for someone with one year left when we can just go after him in free agency.

[basketballRob]

Trade idea 1:

Orlando trades:
Cole Anthony, Anthony Black, Jett Howard, 2025 ORL frp, 2025 DEN frp.

Utah trades:
Walker Kessler, Colin Sexton, Keyonte George, 2025 2nd (mocked #43 via Dallas)

Why for Utah? They have a million bigs and no guards or wings. This shores up their back court should they land Coop. AB is a big piece they can build around. Ainge gets his multiple picks so he feels like he won.

Orlando lands their rim protector, quality rebounder, and screen setter. They get their back court draw to pair with Suggs and a better fitting prospect in George for second unit scoring. People won’t like adding AB, but Utah isn’t giving away value to Orlando just because.

Trade Carter for a backup point guard and expirings somewhere.

Trade 2:

Orlando trades:
Wendell Carter, Cole Anthony, 2025 ORL frp , 2025 DEN frp, 2026 ORL frp.

Portland trades:
A Simons, Rayan Rupert

Orlando finally lands elite back court creation. They get a decent wing prospect from a team with a crowded guard rotation.

Portland gets 3 picks. They can focus on building their future back court. Carter makes some of their bigs more expendable for other moves without sacrificing a ton of cap.


The bottom line is that Orlando isn’t going to land everything they need in this draft. Use the picks to address the issues with the starting lineup, and not to fortify the bench. Get Paolo and Franz the help they need sooner than later.

Trade #2 is a significant overpay. Expiring and 16 is good enough for Simon’s.

Some posters here are infatuated with Simons because he lives in the Orlando area.

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[JRoy]

Trade idea 1:

Orlando trades:
Cole Anthony, Anthony Black, Jett Howard, 2025 ORL frp, 2025 DEN frp.

Utah trades:
Walker Kessler, Colin Sexton, Keyonte George, 2025 2nd (mocked #43 via Dallas)

Why for Utah? They have a million bigs and no guards or wings. This shores up their back court should they land Coop. AB is a big piece they can build around. Ainge gets his multiple picks so he feels like he won.

Orlando lands their rim protector, quality rebounder, and screen setter. They get their back court draw to pair with Suggs and a better fitting prospect in George for second unit scoring. People won’t like adding AB, but Utah isn’t giving away value to Orlando just because.

Trade Carter for a backup point guard and expirings somewhere.

Trade 2:

Orlando trades:
Wendell Carter, Cole Anthony, 2025 ORL frp , 2025 DEN frp, 2026 ORL frp.

Portland trades:
A Simons, Rayan Rupert

Orlando finally lands elite back court creation. They get a decent wing prospect from a team with a crowded guard rotation.

Portland gets 3 picks. They can focus on building their future back court. Carter makes some of their bigs more expendable for other moves without sacrificing a ton of cap.


The bottom line is that Orlando isn’t going to land everything they need in this draft. Use the picks to address the issues with the starting lineup, and not to fortify the bench. Get Paolo and Franz the help they need sooner than later.

Trade #2 is a significant overpay. Expiring and 16 is good enough for Simon’s.

Some posters here are infatuated with Simons because he lives in the Orlando area.

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Sure.

Simons is one of several guys that could help with ORL woeful shooting and not cost the world.

[Idiosyncratic]

KCP, Jett and 16 for Simons is enough. The 16 pick for possibly a one year rental of simmons is enough. Im not overpaying for someone with one year left when we can just go after him in free agency.

Most Blazers fans don't want to take Caldwell-Pope on, but I think that would be my sticking point if we are sending out 16. Maybe a 3rd team would take him. If I'm sending expirings I am sending the Nuggets pick or a future 1st (not 2026) and daring another team to beat my offer. Blazers could be better off waiting until the deadline in that scenario.

Expirings plus 16 for Simons on 1/28 just does not feel great to me. I guess it could depend on who is available at the time, I need a future 2nd or something then though that is just feeling rough to me

[basketballRob]

Trade #2 is a significant overpay. Expiring and 16 is good enough for Simon’s.

Some posters here are infatuated with Simons because he lives in the Orlando area.

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Sure.

Simons is one of several guys that could help with ORL woeful shooting and not cost the world.

I don't think our front office will give up that much assets for him. I like McNeeley with our 16th pick and Walter Clayton Jr. with the 25th pick. I don't think they trade our picks. Walter Clayton is from the area, too.

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[JRoy]

KCP, Jett and 16 for Simons is enough. The 16 pick for possibly a one year rental of simmons is enough. Im not overpaying for someone with one year left when we can just go after him in free agency.

Pass on KCP, do not want his contract on the books.