Official Speculation Thread (Pt XIII, Mods Close)

Post #41 » by **Bensational** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 3:18 am

Monta deal 1:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=7wmac3c

or

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=85ozpa8

option 1 gets them 2 young studs, plus a PG in Harris (not sure they want/need him).

option 2 gets them cap space. seems a waste to use Ellis primarily as a salary dump, though.

there needs to be some kind of halfway, where they get a guy like Anderson, but also get Kaman at the same time. but, we need New Orleans to take on Nelson's contract, too, and the only way i think they do that is if they get Anderson?

option 3 maybe?

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=73k9hll

ADRajX · Post #42 » by **ADRajX** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 3:18 am

Orlando_Prodigy wrote:
Hilltop wrote:If we acquire Ellis, I hope to god Nelson is involved in the trade.

If he isn't included in the package, watch us start Monta at SG while Meer continues to handle the ball. Or maybe Monta comes off the bench as a super-sub for Jameer because you know, you can't just bench an 'All Star'

/rant

No! I'd rather keep Nelson to back up Monta at point guard

The Real Dalic · Post #43 » by **The Real Dalic** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 3:19 am

DJRajX wrote:
Orlando_Prodigy wrote:
Hilltop wrote:If we acquire Ellis, I hope to god Nelson is involved in the trade.

If he isn't included in the package, watch us start Monta at SG while Meer continues to handle the ball. Or maybe Monta comes off the bench as a super-sub for Jameer because you know, you can't just bench an 'All Star'

/rant

No! I'd rather keep Nelson to back up Monta at point guard

If Stan would allow that to happen then I agree.

The Real Dalic · Post #44 » by **The Real Dalic** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 3:20 am

It would suck if tomorrow Otis or Martins said this rumor wasn't true...

Post #45 » by **Bensational** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 3:20 am

DJRajX wrote:
Orlando_Prodigy wrote:
Hilltop wrote:If we acquire Ellis, I hope to god Nelson is involved in the trade.

If he isn't included in the package, watch us start Monta at SG while Meer continues to handle the ball. Or maybe Monta comes off the bench as a super-sub for Jameer because you know, you can't just bench an 'All Star'

/rant

No! I'd rather keep Nelson to back up Monta at point guard

Hilltop is right. Nelson has to go.

Stan will favour Nelson too much, and it will kill any chance of the offense taking a new direction.

and if Jameer can't handle Dwight just talking about getting a new PG, how's he gonna handle it if we DO get one, and Jameer is sent to the bench?

but, the catch 22 is, i don't think anybody would take Nelson off us, except maybe Utah.

D12VCMagic · Post #46 » by **D12VCMagic** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 3:21 am

People called Broussard a hack when he reported Dwight wanted out, yet now that he reports the Magic are talking about Monta he is credible....

cb1115 · Post #47 » by **cb1115** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 3:21 am

Orlando_Prodigy wrote:

Deezy · Post #48 » by **Deezy** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 3:21 am

If Nelson isn't dealt, your starting backcourt becomes Nelson/Ellis.

...yeah, Nelson must go if we acquire Ellis.

Reverse_Angle · Post #49 » by **Reverse_Angle** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 3:21 am

DJRajX wrote:
Orlando_Prodigy wrote:
Hilltop wrote:If we acquire Ellis, I hope to god Nelson is involved in the trade.

If he isn't included in the package, watch us start Monta at SG while Meer continues to handle the ball. Or maybe Monta comes off the bench as a super-sub for Jameer because you know, you can't just bench an 'All Star'

/rant

No! I'd rather keep Nelson to back up Monta at point guard

it may not always be possible to demote someone and hope for consistence. with jameer, svg really needs to sell the idea of exceptional 6th man, which is the truth. otherwise, jameer will not be able to recover

rcklsscognition · Post #50 » by **rcklsscognition** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 3:21 am

DJRajX wrote:lol anyone here hoping that by 12am, the Trade Machine will make players like J-Rich and BBD accessible for trading?

Hoping but knowing ESPN it'll be March 16th by the time they update it.

OrlandO · Post #51 » by **OrlandO** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 3:22 am

Hey, look at that, even the warriors can beat the Hawks...
And screw Monta, I want to know more about his brother, "Donta" Ellis, who apparently had 24pts and 8 assists tonight.

rcklsscognition · Post #52 » by **rcklsscognition** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 3:23 am

D12VCMagic wrote:People called Broussard a hack when he reported Dwight wanted out, yet now that he reports the Magic are talking about Monta he is credible....

I don't think anyone should need Broussard to report this to believe it. This is not the first time Otis has asked the Warriors about Ellis.

InFlames · Post #53 » by **InFlames** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 3:23 am

DiplomaticMagic wrote:The Warriors media are kind of laughing at this trade rumor. Please Broussard be right.

The Warriors know they need to trade Monta. They have been trying to trade him for two years now and no one has gone for him. They turned down Iggy for Monta at the start of the season, they are idiots. These guys think they can get Dwight for Monta ffs.

Monta's value around the league is a lot lower than they think and there aren't many places where he would fit in, Orlando is one of them.

jjtreyball · Post #54 » by **jjtreyball** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 3:23 am

I'm telling u if we get lee/Ellis
Ellis/ish
Whoever
Q
Lee
Dwight

That team could be scary Next year once we retool it... I mean look how bad the Knicks roster was besides amare/melo/billups Before they retooled it

frog · Post #55 » by **frog** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 3:24 am

DJRajX wrote:lol anyone here hoping that by 12am, the Trade Machine will make players like J-Rich and BBD accessible for trading?

Reverse_Angle · Post #56 » by **Reverse_Angle** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 3:24 am

Bensational wrote:
Hilltop is right. Nelson has to go.

Stan will favour Nelson too much, and it will kill any chance of the offense taking a new direction.

and if Jameer can't handle Dwight just talking about getting a new PG, how's he gonna handle it if we DO get one, and Jameer is sent to the bench?

but, the catch 22 is, i don't think anybody would take Nelson off us, except maybe Utah.

SJax and ilyasova with or without a 3rd team involved? ilyasova is FA and MIL will not offer enough to keep him.

rcklsscognition · Post #57 » by **rcklsscognition** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 3:28 am

Reverse_Angle wrote:
Bensational wrote:
Hilltop is right. Nelson has to go.

Stan will favour Nelson too much, and it will kill any chance of the offense taking a new direction.

and if Jameer can't handle Dwight just talking about getting a new PG, how's he gonna handle it if we DO get one, and Jameer is sent to the bench?

but, the catch 22 is, i don't think anybody would take Nelson off us, except maybe Utah.

SJax and ilyasova with or without a 3rd team involved? ilyasova is FA and MIL will not offer enough to keep him.

He had a nice game tonight.

ADRajX · Post #58 » by **ADRajX** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 3:29 am

rcklsscognition wrote:
DJRajX wrote:lol anyone here hoping that by 12am, the Trade Machine will make players like J-Rich and BBD accessible for trading?

Hoping but knowing ESPN it'll be March 16th by the time they update it.

yeah I know... it took them over a month to update the Trade Machine with the new CBA... when they said it would only take a week... mad annoying lol

ADRajX · Post #59 » by **ADRajX** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 3:30 am

it's sad... I won't be able to sleep tonight ... or for the next two weeks until something happens (or doesn't happen) :lol:

btw I updated the OP... we're at 1190 7/15 pages total.

rcklsscognition · Post #60 » by **rcklsscognition** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 3:31 am

DJRajX wrote:it's sad... I won't be able to sleep tonight ... or for the next two weeks until something happens (or doesn't happen)

Wait till Dwight takes his option and we go through this until next year in February.