Ryan Anderson Playing Disappearing Act: Is It Good For Us

[CPBalla2003 n da 863]

^^^ yea, i agree MM123, def he's getting outplayed, we can agree on that, but, i can see the frustrations with Anderson, hopefully he breaks out of it, that he's young and still learning excuse is getting old, but, we all need him to play well, i can admit he's def struggling. but, i just don't think he's disappered, in my opinion.

dang, we always debating each other, lol

[grayson11]

For what it's worth, Ryan Anderson is 23 years old. To put that into perspective, DeAndre Liggins is 2 months OLDER than Ryno. By 23, JJ had played a grand total of 21 playoff minutes.

As previously mentioned, Ryno is a work-in-progress and I would be more than happy to watch him further develop as a key player on this squad (at the right price of course).

Then again I sympathize with the haters in that his regular season to post-season efficiency drop off has been very disappointing. Hopefully, he turns things around.

[AdamTheGreek]

It's true that Ryno is having his touches limited because Indy would much prefer covering him and leaving Baby relatively open. But Ryan has missed a large chunk open shots through 2 games.

He can make up for it behind a rowdy home crowd.

Ryno right now still should be seeing $6-7 million offers.

[Bensational]

For what it's worth, Ryan Anderson is 23 years old. To put that into perspective, DeAndre Liggins is 2 months OLDER than Ryno. By 23, JJ had played a grand total of 21 playoff minutes.

As previously mentioned, Ryno is a work-in-progress and I would be more than happy to watch him further develop as a key player on this squad (at the right price of course).

yeah, Anderson's youth is the biggest drawback i have to cutting ties with him. i'd hate to see him go and get his ish together on another team. i have a feeling, though, that when it comes to that killer instinct and ice cold edge, a player either has it or they don't. i can't think of many (or, any right now, tbh) players that were able to add that facet of the game well into their NBA career - especially once they've already been given the opportunity to prove themselves. Ryan isn't a guy who hasn't had chances up until now, he's a guy who just hasn't made the most of those chances.

[The Real Dalic]

me personally i don't think Ryan deserves all the blame for his performance so far imo.....the effort is there...you can't sit there and say he isn't playing hard....but to me the main point is how he's used in this offense....plain and simple he isn't a focal point....we don't call plays for him....so basically his points is either assisted or he generates his own off of rebounds.....i've wanted Ryan's role in the offense to be expanded more in the regular season so that we wouldn't have these problems now in the playoffs......

Example off the top of my head is back in the day when Memhet Okur played for the jazz.....Ryan has a similar skillset to Okur but the Jazz used Memhet a lot more smarter than we do with Ryan....while it's two different offenses the Jazz had Designed plays to get Memhet shots to get him in Rhythm.....Either way Ryan HAS to do his part and play better...no excuse....but Stan has the ability to make it easier on Ryan though you can't really deny that......

Of course the only way he gets his points is off of assists and rebounds. He can't do much else. You want him handling the ball? He's not really good at anything else but 3's and rebounding. Not much Stan can do with him. . .

[The Real Dalic]

For what it's worth, Ryan Anderson is 23 years old. To put that into perspective, DeAndre Liggins is 2 months OLDER than Ryno. By 23, JJ had played a grand total of 21 playoff minutes.

As previously mentioned, Ryno is a work-in-progress and I would be more than happy to watch him further develop as a key player on this squad (at the right price of course).

yeah, Anderson's youth is the biggest drawback i have to cutting ties with him. i'd hate to see him go and get his ish together on another team. i have a feeling, though, that when it comes to that killer instinct and ice cold edge, a player either has it or they don't. i can't think of many (or, any right now, tbh) players that were able to add that facet of the game well into their NBA career - especially once they've already been given the opportunity to prove themselves. Ryan isn't a guy who hasn't had chances up until now, he's a guy who just hasn't made the most of those chances.

I agree.

Also to Grayson's post. JJ isn't anything more than a role player right now. I don't wanna pay Ryan and wait for him to develop just so he comes out of the other side as a pretty good role player and that's it. I want to try and get Iggy, Ellis, or Smoove. They are way better than Ryan. And, we could put them around Dwight and be one of the, if not, the scariest team in the NBA. I don't think Ryan is worth screwing that chance up for.

[ChildishGambino]

me personally i don't think Ryan deserves all the blame for his performance so far imo.....the effort is there...you can't sit there and say he isn't playing hard....but to me the main point is how he's used in this offense....plain and simple he isn't a focal point....we don't call plays for him....so basically his points is either assisted or he generates his own off of rebounds.....i've wanted Ryan's role in the offense to be expanded more in the regular season so that we wouldn't have these problems now in the playoffs......

Example off the top of my head is back in the day when Memhet Okur played for the jazz.....Ryan has a similar skillset to Okur but the Jazz used Memhet a lot more smarter than we do with Ryan....while it's two different offenses the Jazz had Designed plays to get Memhet shots to get him in Rhythm.....Either way Ryan HAS to do his part and play better...no excuse....but Stan has the ability to make it easier on Ryan though you can't really deny that......

Of course the only way he gets his points is off of assists and rebounds. He can't do much else. You want him handling the ball? He's not really good at anything else but 3's and rebounding. Not much Stan can do with him. . .

Okur couldn't handle the ball real well either but he still got plays called for him(pick and pops mainly)....Okur was more or less a jump shooting big just like Ryan....Ryan can rebound like Okur could as well.....Stan can certainly make Ryan a bit more of a factor offensively....remember Stan calls EVERY play down the court....EVERY SINGLE PLAY....no reason why Stan can't draw up a play for Ryan where he's the first option for a shot....you know what i might be nitpicking but i'm just stating what i see...don't take it as fact it's just how i feel about Ryan as he stands today....but like i said no excuse he should be playing a lot better....

[The Real Dalic]

me personally i don't think Ryan deserves all the blame for his performance so far imo.....the effort is there...you can't sit there and say he isn't playing hard....but to me the main point is how he's used in this offense....plain and simple he isn't a focal point....we don't call plays for him....so basically his points is either assisted or he generates his own off of rebounds.....i've wanted Ryan's role in the offense to be expanded more in the regular season so that we wouldn't have these problems now in the playoffs......

Example off the top of my head is back in the day when Memhet Okur played for the jazz.....Ryan has a similar skillset to Okur but the Jazz used Memhet a lot more smarter than we do with Ryan....while it's two different offenses the Jazz had Designed plays to get Memhet shots to get him in Rhythm.....Either way Ryan HAS to do his part and play better...no excuse....but Stan has the ability to make it easier on Ryan though you can't really deny that......

Of course the only way he gets his points is off of assists and rebounds. He can't do much else. You want him handling the ball? He's not really good at anything else but 3's and rebounding. Not much Stan can do with him. . .

Okur couldn't handle the ball real well either but he still got plays called for him(pick and pops mainly)....Okur was more or less a jump shooting big just like Ryan....Ryan can rebound like Okur could as well.....Stan can certainly make Ryan a bit more of a factor offensively....remember Stan calls EVERY play down the court....EVERY SINGLE PLAY....no reason why Stan can't draw up a play for Ryan where he's the first option for a shot....you know what i might be nitpicking but i'm just stating what i see...don't take it as fact it's just how i feel about Ryan as he stands today....but like i said no excuse he should be playing a lot better....

I actually agree. Ryan should get a few more designed shots for him. But, I don't what you could do with him. I'm pretty sure Stan can figure something out. . . Not sure why he can't give him a few more shots.

[eyriq]

Ryan is playing bad. He is missing shots, playing bad defense, and not rebounding at his season norms.

Yet, his regular season was historic, the best offensive rebounding stretch four in NBA History (stretch fours don't exactly have the deepest history, but still).

We aren't Talking about building around Ryan, but building around Dwight, and we know that the stretch four is a terrific compliment to his game.

[The Real Dalic]

We aren't Talking about building around Ryan, but building around Dwight, and we know that the stretch four is a terrific compliment to his game.

The problem is we need a playmaker and a slasher to make a stretch 4 work. And we have none of those things.

[magicman123]

Ryan is playing bad. He is missing shots, playing bad defense, and not rebounding at his season norms.

Yet, his regular season was historic, the best offensive rebounding stretch four in NBA History (stretch fours don't exactly have the deepest history, but still).

We aren't Talking about building around Ryan, but building around Dwight, and we know that the stretch four is a terrific compliment to his game.

hes a great player next to dwight, an excellent offensive rebounder, but it comes down to 2 problems, money and how it affects the future, and his playoff performances, its all about the post season

[The Real Dalic]

Ryan is playing bad. He is missing shots, playing bad defense, and not rebounding at his season norms.

Yet, his regular season was historic, the best offensive rebounding stretch four in NBA History (stretch fours don't exactly have the deepest history, but still).

We aren't Talking about building around Ryan, but building around Dwight, and we know that the stretch four is a terrific compliment to his game.

hes a great player next to dwight, an excellent offensive rebounder, but it comes down to 2 problems, money and how it affects the future, and his playoff performances, its all about the post season

I agree.

[Bensational]

Ryan is playing bad. He is missing shots, playing bad defense, and not rebounding at his season norms.

Yet, his regular season was historic, the best offensive rebounding stretch four in NBA History (stretch fours don't exactly have the deepest history, but still).

We aren't Talking about building around Ryan, but building around Dwight, and we know that the stretch four is a terrific compliment to his game.

we're also talking about building a championship teams - and championship teams have players that show up consistently.

[eyriq]

Ryan is playing bad. He is missing shots, playing bad defense, and not rebounding at his season norms.

Yet, his regular season was historic, the best offensive rebounding stretch four in NBA History (stretch fours don't exactly have the deepest history, but still).

We aren't Talking about building around Ryan, but building around Dwight, and we know that the stretch four is a terrific compliment to his game.

we're also talking about building a championship teams - and championship teams have players that show up consistently.

Ryan is consistent, unless you know something about being our teams second leading scorer and rebounder that I don't. Or him leading the league in three's attempted and made, and having had the longest three point streak in the NBA this past season.

Could he do better in these first two games? Sure, of course he could. But it isn't worth rewriting his regular season over. Plus, we still have games to play.

[The Real Dalic]

Ryan is playing bad. He is missing shots, playing bad defense, and not rebounding at his season norms.

Yet, his regular season was historic, the best offensive rebounding stretch four in NBA History (stretch fours don't exactly have the deepest history, but still).

We aren't Talking about building around Ryan, but building around Dwight, and we know that the stretch four is a terrific compliment to his game.

we're also talking about building a championship teams - and championship teams have players that show up consistently.

Ryan is consistent, unless you know something about being our teams second leading scorer and rebounder that I don't. Or him leading the league in three's attempted and made, and having had the longest three point streak in the NBA this past season.

Could he do better in these first two games? Sure, of course he could. But it isn't worth rewriting his regular season over. Plus, we still have games to play.

These last two games mean more than the entire regular season combined.

[magicman123]

he played bad against the top teams in the east and he hasn't played well in the playoffs, again..
do we risk our future cap space by giving him a large contract? or go with big baby and spend the money on a wing player?

[The Real Dalic]

he played bad against the top teams in the east and he hasn't played well in the playoffs, again..
do we risk our future cap space by giving him a large contract? or go with big baby and spend the money on a wing player?

Easily start BBD and get a wing player that won't fade in the playoffs like J-Rich and Ryan.

[Reverse_Angle]

there is still time. There are at least 3 games left. Ryan can still make a huge impact. He and hedo will have epic performances in Orlando, I can feel it.

as for the original question, him tanking now benefits nobody.

[The Real Dalic]

there is still time. There are at least 3 games left. Ryan can still make a huge impact. He and hedo will have epic performances in Orlando, I can feel it.

as for the original question, him tanking now benefits nobody.

I'm praying you're right.

[eyriq]

he played bad against the top teams in the east and he hasn't played well in the playoffs, again..
do we risk our future cap space by giving him a large contract? or go with big baby and spend the money on a wing player?

I would prefer re-signing Anderson and then re-tooling. Trade Baby and JRich for expirings, say Baby for Jarret Jack and JRich for Webster, and then going for cap space the following offseason to sign Ellis or someone of that ilk. I don't think that Baby compliments Dwight well at all, and the numbers tend to back this up.