The Dante Exum Thread

[Def Swami]

i hope exum tanks philly and cavs workout with a wink wink guarantee from the Magic lol

I could see him blocking workouts w/ teams he doesn't think he'll be a starting PG.

[Smooth_E]

i hope exum tanks philly and cavs workout with a wink wink guarantee from the Magic lol

I could see him blocking workouts w/ teams he doesn't think he'll be a starting PG.

He has stated that he considers himself a PG and that he WANTS to play PG. I doubt that Philly would be a situation he'd like to be a part of considering that MCW is a PG and PG only and that Exum can play either PG or SG. Philly undoubtedly chooses MCW at PG and will play Exum off the ball. I don't know if he'd like that.

[T12]

i really think Exum will be there at 4...Philly and Cleveland are not players for him and something tells me he will make it known he is not interested in Milwakee. Question is going to be, does Rob like him over Smart? not sure there is a clear cut answer. I think Orlando really love the potential of a Smart/Dipo back court...and the leadership, toughness Smart brings.

[Skin]

His inability to be an EXPLOSIVE athlete bothers me a little.

Don't let it. First off he ain't bad. Secondly, his speed with the ball makes him elite in that category. If you're talking about his vertical jump, then you're missing the point. His length for the position already sets him above the pack and last I checked we have a guy named Oladipo who is pretty explosive. The way they compliment each other can really set us apart from the rest of the NBA.

How exactly do they complement each other? IMO, we now have someone who can handle the ball, put on a few moves and MAYBE break down his opponent and get to the basket.

The biggest thing I see with an Exum-Oladipo back court is that we'll be able to play Oladipo primarily the way the Hoosiers did, of course with some adjustments. Constant slashing and cutting with an ever improving skill set...Wade-lite...or too soon?

Exum is more advanced as a ball handler and playmaker on offense than Oladipo is. What he can offer us helps us mitigate some of the flaws in Oladipo's game as a PG. However, Exum is not a pure PG... that's not a knock at all, as those types of PGs are starting to have vanishing value around the league as teams start to demand more out of them as scorers. So having a guy like Oladipo who continues to enhance his PG skills will also allow Exum to take those opportunities to attack. Alone, a team would have a harder time with ball distribution/playmaking from the PG spot...as we had last year with Oladipo and his high TO rate.

There are benefits to the 2 PG rotation that teams are using, but the thing that will make us unique in our usage of it is that instead of having 2 PGs sized guards, we would be employing 2 SG sized guards. The thought of that is tantalizing! It's not being done in the NBA right now, but if we do it, and it works (which it will), we could revolutionize the sport. The problem with 2 PG sized guards on the floor is their concern on defense, but with 2 SG sized guards on the floor, the defensive worries are mitigated and especially so when you're talking about 2 guards that are good at defense to begin with. 2 big guards that BOTH have PG ability, BOTH have offensive ability, and BOTH have defense ability, BOTH with Superstar potential... How do they NOT compliment each other? It's perfection!

[Eltonator]

Don't let it. First off he ain't bad. Secondly, his speed with the ball makes him elite in that category. If you're talking about his vertical jump, then you're missing the point. His length for the position already sets him above the pack and last I checked we have a guy named Oladipo who is pretty explosive. The way they compliment each other can really set us apart from the rest of the NBA.

How exactly do they complement each other? IMO, we now have someone who can handle the ball, put on a few moves and MAYBE break down his opponent and get to the basket.

The biggest thing I see with an Exum-Oladipo back court is that we'll be able to play Oladipo primarily the way the Hoosiers did, of course with some adjustments. Constant slashing and cutting with an ever improving skill set...Wade-lite...or too soon?

Exum is more advanced as a ball handler and playmaker on offense than Oladipo is. What he can offer us helps us mitigate some of the flaws in Oladipo's game as a PG. However, Exum is not a pure PG... that's not a knock at all, as those types of PGs are starting to have vanishing value around the league as teams start to demand more out of them as scorers. So having a guy like Oladipo who continues to enhance his PG skills will also allow Exum to take those opportunities to attack. Alone, a team would have a harder time with ball distribution/playmaking from the PG spot...as we had last year with Oladipo and his high TO rate.

There are benefits to the 2 PG rotation that teams are using, but the thing that will make us unique in our usage of it is that instead of having 2 PGs sized guards, we would be employing 2 SG sized guards. The thought of that is tantalizing! It's not being done in the NBA right now, but if we do it, and it works (which it will), we could revolutionize the sport. The problem with 2 PG sized guards on the floor is their concern on defense, but with 2 SG sized guards on the floor, the defensive worries are mitigated and especially so when you're talking about 2 guards that are good at defense to begin with. 2 big guards that BOTH have PG ability, BOTH have offensive ability, and BOTH have defense ability, BOTH with Superstar potential... How do they NOT compliment each other? It's perfection!

unless u count curry as a SG than i guess its been done

[Skin]

How exactly do they complement each other? IMO, we now have someone who can handle the ball, put on a few moves and MAYBE break down his opponent and get to the basket.

The biggest thing I see with an Exum-Oladipo back court is that we'll be able to play Oladipo primarily the way the Hoosiers did, of course with some adjustments. Constant slashing and cutting with an ever improving skill set...Wade-lite...or too soon?

Exum is more advanced as a ball handler and playmaker on offense than Oladipo is. What he can offer us helps us mitigate some of the flaws in Oladipo's game as a PG. However, Exum is not a pure PG... that's not a knock at all, as those types of PGs are starting to have vanishing value around the league as teams start to demand more out of them as scorers. So having a guy like Oladipo who continues to enhance his PG skills will also allow Exum to take those opportunities to attack. Alone, a team would have a harder time with ball distribution/playmaking from the PG spot...as we had last year with Oladipo and his high TO rate.

There are benefits to the 2 PG rotation that teams are using, but the thing that will make us unique in our usage of it is that instead of having 2 PGs sized guards, we would be employing 2 SG sized guards. The thought of that is tantalizing! It's not being done in the NBA right now, but if we do it, and it works (which it will), we could revolutionize the sport. The problem with 2 PG sized guards on the floor is their concern on defense, but with 2 SG sized guards on the floor, the defensive worries are mitigated and especially so when you're talking about 2 guards that are good at defense to begin with. 2 big guards that BOTH have PG ability, BOTH have offensive ability, and BOTH have defense ability, BOTH with Superstar potential... How do they NOT compliment each other? It's perfection!

unless u count curry as a SG than i guess its been done

That's the thing. Curry is a small guard, so even though he is as quick as a cat, and could match bucket for bucket, he still couldn't contain CP3 on the defensive side because he didn't have the length to clamp him down. Now put a fast, long, 6'6 PG on CP3 and all of a sudden things are more difficult for CP3.

[Nyce_1]

i really think Exum will be there at 4...Philly and Cleveland are not players for him and something tells me he will make it known he is not interested in Milwakee. Question is going to be, does Rob like him over Smart? not sure there is a clear cut answer. I think Orlando really love the potential of a Smart/Dipo back court...and the leadership, toughness Smart brings.

Disagree. Mil & Phil are very much in play for him. I won't breath a sigh of relief until he's wearing a Magic hat and doing his on-tv post-draft interview.

[OrlandO]

Don't let it. First off he ain't bad. Secondly, his speed with the ball makes him elite in that category. If you're talking about his vertical jump, then you're missing the point. His length for the position already sets him above the pack and last I checked we have a guy named Oladipo who is pretty explosive. The way they compliment each other can really set us apart from the rest of the NBA.

How exactly do they complement each other? IMO, we now have someone who can handle the ball, put on a few moves and MAYBE break down his opponent and get to the basket.

The biggest thing I see with an Exum-Oladipo back court is that we'll be able to play Oladipo primarily the way the Hoosiers did, of course with some adjustments. Constant slashing and cutting with an ever improving skill set...Wade-lite...or too soon?

Exum is more advanced as a ball handler and playmaker on offense than Oladipo is. What he can offer us helps us mitigate some of the flaws in Oladipo's game as a PG. However, Exum is not a pure PG... that's not a knock at all, as those types of PGs are starting to have vanishing value around the league as teams start to demand more out of them as scorers. So having a guy like Oladipo who continues to enhance his PG skills will also allow Exum to take those opportunities to attack. Alone, a team would have a harder time with ball distribution/playmaking from the PG spot...as we had last year with Oladipo and his high TO rate.

There are benefits to the 2 PG rotation that teams are using, but the thing that will make us unique in our usage of it is that instead of having 2 PGs sized guards, we would be employing 2 SG sized guards. The thought of that is tantalizing! It's not being done in the NBA right now, but if we do it, and it works (which it will), we could revolutionize the sport. The problem with 2 PG sized guards on the floor is their concern on defense, but with 2 SG sized guards on the floor, the defensive worries are mitigated and especially so when you're talking about 2 guards that are good at defense to begin with. 2 big guards that BOTH have PG ability, BOTH have offensive ability, and BOTH have defense ability, BOTH with Superstar potential... How do they NOT compliment each other? It's perfection!

Unless Philly has the same thought with pairing MCW and Exum...

[Skin]

How exactly do they complement each other? IMO, we now have someone who can handle the ball, put on a few moves and MAYBE break down his opponent and get to the basket.

The biggest thing I see with an Exum-Oladipo back court is that we'll be able to play Oladipo primarily the way the Hoosiers did, of course with some adjustments. Constant slashing and cutting with an ever improving skill set...Wade-lite...or too soon?

Exum is more advanced as a ball handler and playmaker on offense than Oladipo is. What he can offer us helps us mitigate some of the flaws in Oladipo's game as a PG. However, Exum is not a pure PG... that's not a knock at all, as those types of PGs are starting to have vanishing value around the league as teams start to demand more out of them as scorers. So having a guy like Oladipo who continues to enhance his PG skills will also allow Exum to take those opportunities to attack. Alone, a team would have a harder time with ball distribution/playmaking from the PG spot...as we had last year with Oladipo and his high TO rate.

There are benefits to the 2 PG rotation that teams are using, but the thing that will make us unique in our usage of it is that instead of having 2 PGs sized guards, we would be employing 2 SG sized guards. The thought of that is tantalizing! It's not being done in the NBA right now, but if we do it, and it works (which it will), we could revolutionize the sport. The problem with 2 PG sized guards on the floor is their concern on defense, but with 2 SG sized guards on the floor, the defensive worries are mitigated and especially so when you're talking about 2 guards that are good at defense to begin with. 2 big guards that BOTH have PG ability, BOTH have offensive ability, and BOTH have defense ability, BOTH with Superstar potential... How do they NOT compliment each other? It's perfection!

Unless Philly has the same thought with pairing MCW and Exum...

Exum has made it CLEAR that he wants to play PG. I can't see MWC giving that up. He has no chance at being the same player at SG. Unlike Oladipo.

[T12]

i really think Exum will be there at 4...Philly and Cleveland are not players for him and something tells me he will make it known he is not interested in Milwakee. Question is going to be, does Rob like him over Smart? not sure there is a clear cut answer. I think Orlando really love the potential of a Smart/Dipo back court...and the leadership, toughness Smart brings.

Disagree. Mil & Phil are very much in play for him. I won't breath a sigh of relief until he's wearing a Magic hat and doing his on-tv post-draft interview.

if you say so. Philly wont touch Exum...the true value of MCW and Exum is in their game with the ball in their hands...you take that away from them and they are not nearly as good.

Milwakee, they could surely use him...but i dont think he will go there. but thats just me.

[OrlandO]

True, brown would have to do some convincing and managing to keep them both happy. I wonder if Henny is still enamored with Smart like he was last year.... at least enough to take him over Exum at 4.

[T12]

True, brown would have to do some convincing and managing to keep them both happy. I wonder if Henny is still enamored with Smart like he was last year.... at least enough to take him over Exum at 4.

i think its a real possibility. we might love the smart/dipo back court that much...and we can get a good pf at 12.

[KillMonger]

Honestly i don't think we can lose in any situation, I want Exum in the worst way because i think it kills two birds with one stone it fills a need and it's not like you can't say for sure that he is or isn't the BPA at that point in the draft. If some team takes him before us which is unlikely, we still have Smart on the board which is at least for me a 1b to Exum's 1a. Then from there we can see the interest in some of our vets, try to package the 12 pick+ Afflalo and or Nelson to move up to the 8th or 9th spot and see if we can somehow snag Randle/Gordon. Could you imagine a team like this......

Exum
Oladipo
Harris
Randle
Vucevic

Literally drooling at that possibility, but all in all we're in a nice spot right now. We have options, we can move up or down if we want but it's a damn shame we got to wait a month or so to find out what we do.

[Nyce_1]

i really think Exum will be there at 4...Philly and Cleveland are not players for him and something tells me he will make it known he is not interested in Milwakee. Question is going to be, does Rob like him over Smart? not sure there is a clear cut answer. I think Orlando really love the potential of a Smart/Dipo back court...and the leadership, toughness Smart brings.

Disagree. Mil & Phil are very much in play for him. I won't breath a sigh of relief until he's wearing a Magic hat and doing his on-tv post-draft interview.

if you say so. Philly wont touch Exum...the true value of MCW and Exum is in their game with the ball in their hands...you take that away from them and they are not nearly as good.

Milwakee, they could surely use him...but i dont think he will go there. but thats just me.

Philly's coach has rooted ties to Exum, and they even discussed running 2 PG system with him and MCW. I'm just sayin' don't be so quick to dismiss them as suitors for Exum. If he works out there, and does well, they will give serious thought to it.

I hope not, but not saying never.

[jibba jones]

I read in a Lakers thread that he is only working out for the Magic and the Lakers. Not sure how valid that is but that is what they are hearing on LA sports talk radio. No idea on the source.

[Bensational]

If we get Exum, we have a bevy of cool nicknames to call him.

Weapon X
Dante's Inferno
Excalibur

I told my buddies last night that the backcourt tandem with Oladipo should be called "X's and O's" or "VX" like Degeneration X lol

LOL, i know you meant "xs and os" as in strategy, but for some reason i thought of "hugs and kisses".

That would be a hilarious nickname.!

[OrlChamps2030]

Honestly i don't think we can lose in any situation, I want Exum in the worst way because i think it kills two birds with one stone it fills a need and it's not like you can't say for sure that he is or isn't the BPA at that point in the draft. If some team takes him before us which is unlikely, we still have Smart on the board which is at least for me a 1b to Exum's 1a. Then from there we can see the interest in some of our vets, try to package the 12 pick+ Afflalo and or Nelson to move up to the 8th or 9th spot and see if we can somehow snag Randle/Gordon. Could you imagine a team like this......

Exum
Oladipo
Harris
Randle
Vucevic

Literally drooling at that possibility, but all in all we're in a nice spot right now. We have options, we can move up or down if we want but it's a damn shame we got to wait a month or so to find out what we do.

Grabbing Exum at 4 and then trading up to 8 or 9 to grab whoever is leftover out of Vonleh/Randle/Gordon would be a great draft

[shadrock]

Disagree. Mil & Phil are very much in play for him. I won't breath a sigh of relief until he's wearing a Magic hat and doing his on-tv post-draft interview.

if you say so. Philly wont touch Exum...the true value of MCW and Exum is in their game with the ball in their hands...you take that away from them and they are not nearly as good.

Milwakee, they could surely use him...but i dont think he will go there. but thats just me.

Philly's coach has rooted ties to Exum, and they even discussed running 2 PG system with him and MCW. I'm just sayin' don't be so quick to dismiss them as suitors for Exum. If he works out there, and does well, they will give serious thought to it.

I hope not, but not saying never.

And if they do take Exum, we get Jabari Parker!!! There really is no losing scenario for us here imo unless Embiids back is done and he is all that is left of the top 4 when we pick.

[shadrock]

Ill say it again, 4th is soooooooo so so much better than 5th in this draft and im so greatful we didnt land there.

[orthoman]

This is going to be one anxious month for all of us ! We are on the verge of acquiring a future superstar-who knows? I hope he boycotts a Philly or Mil.