Noah Vonleh Thread [Merged]

[BadMofoPimp]

Magic's top need right now is PF being they do have Meer and plenty of FA PG's they can sign in addition to Lavine, Ennis or Payton. PG's are a dime a dozen right now. Playoff caliber starting PF's are scarce.

[MagicFan101]

we already have a pretty good 21 yr old SF putting up 15ppg/7rpg/16.5per....if a major upgrade opportunity came via the draft then ok but the Magic do not need a SF.

Aww, very cute! Now go play in the corner while the adults talk basketball.

[ezzzp]

we already have a pretty good 21 yr old SF putting up 15ppg/7rpg/16.5per....if a major upgrade opportunity came via the draft then ok but the Magic do not need a SF.

Aww, very cute! Now go play in the corner while the adults talk basketball.

Do you define adult as someone who is clueless? Because your post is factually incorrect on various points. Sorry if facts are inconvenient to your IQ level.

[orthoman]

There are a few recent reports/rumblings that "Noah's Arc" Vonleh may be our choice at #4. This guy is an absolute huge beast/monster! I have watched alot of footage of him and I swear the basketball looks like a melon in his huge "ET" hands.

Wanted to ask the Forum this: If we pick Vonleh at#4, do we have enough assets, including AA, to nab a PG such as Smart ?? Is this something we could pull off?

[MagicFan101]

we already have a pretty good 21 yr old SF putting up 15ppg/7rpg/16.5per....if a major upgrade opportunity came via the draft then ok but the Magic do not need a SF.

Aww, very cute! Now go play in the corner while the adults talk basketball.

Do you define adult as someone who is clueless? Because your post is factually incorrect on various points. Sorry if facts are inconvenient to your IQ level.

I'm not sure what the word "fact" means to you but the fact is that Harris is a tweener forward who's complete lack of defensive ability, especially away from the basket, means his long term place in this league is at the PF position.

If we still had Dwight Howard at C, Harris could be a nice option as the starting PF but Vuc isn't a strong shot blocker which means Harris is better suited for the 6th man role here.

[RookieStar]

I'm gonna vomit if we use #4 for Noah

[Viper1500]

Magic's top need right now is PF being they do have Meer and plenty of FA PG's they can sign in addition to Lavine, Ennis or Payton. PG's are a dime a dozen right now. Playoff caliber starting PF's are scarce.

I agree, if there was a PF worth taking at #4, which there isn't. Exum/Smart fill our second biggest need and would do it much more comfortably

[Nemesis21]

Magic's top need right now is PF being they do have Meer and plenty of FA PG's they can sign in addition to Lavine, Ennis or Payton. PG's are a dime a dozen right now. Playoff caliber starting PF's are scarce.

I agree, if there was a PF worth taking at #4, which there isn't. Exum/Smart fill our second biggest need and would do it much more comfortably

Why is that? Most mocks have Vonleh at 5 to the Jazz, Randle at 6 or 7. Why is it so far fetched to most of you, that neither Vonleh or Randle are a good choice 1-2 picks higher??

[basketballRob]

There are a few recent reports/rumblings that "Noah's Arc" Vonleh may be our choice at #4. This guy is an absolute huge beast/monster! I have watched alot of footage of him and I swear the basketball looks like a melon in his huge "ET" hands.

Wanted to ask the Forum this: If we pick Vonleh at#4, do we have enough assets, including AA, to nab a PG such as Smart ?? Is this something we could pull off?

What reports?

[orthoman]

A few SI linked reports;...if Henny knows he can trade up, somehow, to get Smart, this may not be a bad move ?
I had been thinking, all along, that Smart will be our pick at #4, but I guess Henny could get both?? I would think that picking Vonleh at 4 is very risky if he wants Smart.

[BadMofoPimp]

Magic's top need right now is PF being they do have Meer and plenty of FA PG's they can sign in addition to Lavine, Ennis or Payton. PG's are a dime a dozen right now. Playoff caliber starting PF's are scarce.

I agree, if there was a PF worth taking at #4, which there isn't. Exum/Smart fill our second biggest need and would do it much more comfortably

Vonleh says Hello!

Randall says Hello!

[basketballRob]

I guess Chad Ford has us taking him in his new mock draft. It might make sense because their might be more guards available at 12. Payton, Lavine. Ennis, Staukus

[ezzzp]

Aww, very cute! Now go play in the corner while the adults talk basketball.

Do you define adult as someone who is clueless? Because your post is factually incorrect on various points. Sorry if facts are inconvenient to your IQ level.

I'm not sure what the word "fact" means to you but the fact is that Harris is a tweener forward who's complete lack of defensive ability, especially away from the basket, means his long term place in this league is at the PF position.

If we still had Dwight Howard at C, Harris could be a nice option as the starting PF but Vuc isn't a strong shot blocker which means Harris is better suited for the 6th man role here.

Those are opinions not facts. Here are some facts:

His opponent counterpart PER at SF was 10.2 at PF it was 19.6.
His Net Production at SF was +3.9 and at PF it was -1.4

http://www.82games.com/1314/13ORL9.HTM

Those numbers indicate exactly the opposite of what your statement pontificates. Also, the center is not the only position a shot blocker can reside- you know there are rim protecting PF 's.

Harris is a forward not a tweener - meaning he can play both roles depending on what the game situation requires. The NBA trend is to play small at PF, he has the ability to do that (and is where he is better offensively) but he is much more effective defensively at SF.

I agree Harris could be a great 6th man, but not because he can't be a solid starter at SF - but because hopefully the Magic will be deep enough to have that luxury ...which we just might after this draft.

[Smooth_E]

Change your username to ThreadMan.

[thelead]

I'm gonna vomit if we use #4 for Noah

[Nemesis21]

I'm gonna vomit if we use #4 for Noah

Why?? Look at all the mocks, most of Vonleh at 5 and Randle at 6 or 7. Why do most of you act like taking either 1-2 spots higher then they are slated, is such a big reach? Most of you act like we're taking a player 10 spots higher. Quit crying and be mad at the Cavs for fu**ing things up by winning the lotto and pushing us down to 4. We did all we could do to get a top 3 pick, and the Cavs fu**ed it all up. So unless one of the big 3 fall to us at 4, quit crying about getting Vonleh or Randle. I honestly prefer both over Exum and Smart.

[MagicFan101]

Those are opinions not facts. Here are some facts:

His opponent counterpart PER at SF was 10.2 at PF it was 19.6.
His Net Production at SF was +3.9 and at PF it was -1.4

http://www.82games.com/1314/13ORL9.HTM

Those numbers indicate exactly the opposite of what your statement pontificates. Also, the center is not the only position a shot blocker can reside- you know there are rim protecting PF 's.

Harris is a forward not a tweener - meaning he can play both roles depending on what the game situation requires. The NBA trend is to play small at PF, he has the ability to do that (and is where he is better offensively) but he is much more effective defensively at SF.

I agree Harris could be a great 6th man, but not because he can't be a solid starter at SF - but because hopefully the Magic will be deep enough to have that luxury ...which we just might after this draft.

There is a fine line between ignorance and denial and you appear to have one foot on each side of it.

[ezzzp]

Those are opinions not facts. Here are some facts:

His opponent counterpart PER at SF was 10.2 at PF it was 19.6.
His Net Production at SF was +3.9 and at PF it was -1.4

http://www.82games.com/1314/13ORL9.HTM

Those numbers indicate exactly the opposite of what your statement pontificates. Also, the center is not the only position a shot blocker can reside- you know there are rim protecting PF 's.

Harris is a forward not a tweener - meaning he can play both roles depending on what the game situation requires. The NBA trend is to play small at PF, he has the ability to do that (and is where he is better offensively) but he is much more effective defensively at SF.

I agree Harris could be a great 6th man, but not because he can't be a solid starter at SF - but because hopefully the Magic will be deep enough to have that luxury ...which we just might after this draft.

There is a fine line between ignorance and denial and you appear to have one foot on each side of it.

do you have trouble reading? there are the numbers - educate yourself

[orthoman]

I may change my name to Threadman !

Seriously, who knows, maybe Vonleh at #4, and if Henny can package AA, #12, one of the young en's, maybe
we could still get Smart ? Hell, I'd stuff Lamb and Price in the package as well

Agree with Nemesis, the ******* Cavs ***** us! We should be in top three.

[magicman123]

I'm gonna vomit if we use #4 for Noah

when i watch him he looks extremely slow and plays below the rim..wouldnt be happy with him at 4