Official Speculation Thread Part 1 (Summer League 2014)

Smooth_E · Post #41 » by **Smooth_E** » Fri Jul 4, 2014 8:25 pm

Skin wrote:I'm also happy we didn't get Patterson. That one left me confusing.

Same here. Some here were all over that guy :lol:

TDJacksonville · Post #42 » by **TDJacksonville** » Fri Jul 4, 2014 8:41 pm

Melvinlocker wrote:
Skin wrote:I'm also happy we didn't get Patterson. That one left me confusing.

Getting someone who could space the floor out to the 3pt line at the four is almost a necessity if we are going to run the double point guard system with slashers like Dipo or Payton. PPat would have been perfect as a stretch four running pick and pop while being a good compliment to the power game of either Tobias and Aaron Gordon.

He was going to be overpriced from the looks of things which is why we probably didn't try to pick him up. There are other options out there that I bet Henny is actively pursuing. The caveat is the guys we target need to be better than Nicholson in order to make a it worthwhile.

frye.

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Magic_Time · Post #43 » by **Magic_Time** » Fri Jul 4, 2014 9:02 pm

If only the coach was confident in Andrew and push him to get better and give him minutes.. he would be very special coming off the bench playing 23-25 minutes a game.. the coach should have been patient and Andrew should have been given a lot of chance to play the past season.. I don't care if he was consistent or not.. it was not like we were trying to win games..

Here, lemme remind u all of his game..

VS the spurs (as a rookie):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb8oVRoTiVg

VS the suns (as a rookie)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJTsXzRRTUM

VS toronto (as a rookie)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs2ojfCkxC4

vs warriors(rookie)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWbCBrVPTT4

When he starts to look like an average defender on his second season:

vs cavaliers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1o70awnqxA

vs Zbow &4blcks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSm5x_wNLY0

vs the bulls
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHRXj2eQN4E

Am sorry, we got a secret weapon on the bench and we don't use it wisely and often..
it's secret, cause not many team know of his game..

Neon1 · Post #44 » by **Neon1** » Fri Jul 4, 2014 9:05 pm

Payton and A. Gordon have not played together once on the same team so far in practices. I'm thinking they are still running Dipo at the PG and have Payton backing up.

Fournier and B.Gordon likely manning the other guard.

zerp · Post #45 » by **zerp** » Fri Jul 4, 2014 9:09 pm

Skin wrote:I'm also happy we didn't get Patterson. That one left me confusing.

Are you sûre ? You know next option ?

JAY DASH · Post #46 » by **JAY DASH** » Fri Jul 4, 2014 9:16 pm

I hope Fournier starts. Knowing us Ben Gordon will. God I hope not.

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axl_c_cool · Post #47 » by **axl_c_cool** » Fri Jul 4, 2014 9:17 pm

Magic_Time wrote:If only the coach was confident in Andrew and push him to get better and give him minutes.. he would be very special coming off the bench playing 23-25 minutes a game.. the coach should have been patient and Andrew should have been given a lot of chance to play the past season.. I don't care if he was consistent or not.. it was not like we were trying to win games..

Here, lemme remind u all of his game..

VS the spurs (as a rookie):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb8oVRoTiVg

VS the suns (as a rookie)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJTsXzRRTUM

VS toronto (as a rookie)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs2ojfCkxC4

vs warriors(rookie)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWbCBrVPTT4

When he starts to look like an average defender on his second season:

vs cavaliers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1o70awnqxA

vs Zbow &4blcks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSm5x_wNLY0

vs the bulls
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHRXj2eQN4E

Am sorry, we got a secret weapon on the bench and we don't use it wisely and often..
it's secret, cause not many team know of his game..

I like Nicholson, Hopefully he progresses this offseason

zerp wrote:
Skin wrote:I'm also happy we didn't get Patterson. That one left me confusing.

Are you sûre ? You know next option ?

We do not need to sign another power forward, I hope Nicholson will get minutes in the rotation, it's going to be tough to make the playoffs, giving Nicholson a chance to develop is likely our best solution. If Andrew Nicholson shows he can add to the team that would be good, if he can't we make can a signing and start Aaron Gordon

axl_c_cool · Post #48 » by **axl_c_cool** » Fri Jul 4, 2014 9:25 pm

I hope our roster is:

Oladipo/Payton/Curry
Fournier/Gordon/Green
Harris/Harkless
Nicholson/Gordon/Osby
Vucevic/O'Quinn/Dedmon

Marbles to the D-League

I'm a big fan of Elfrid Payton and Aaron Gordon, I think we need to bring them off the bench to begin with

rcklsscognition · Post #49 » by **rcklsscognition** » Fri Jul 4, 2014 9:59 pm

Anyone else find it funny that with the Lakers pushing for Melo the entire media has jumped on the Randle bandwagon? Now he is portrayed as a franchise cornerstone that combined with Kobe will lure free agents. Hasnt even played a game yet, has a foot injury that could flare up at any moment, yet he's the second coming.

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rcklsscognition · Post #50 » by **rcklsscognition** » Fri Jul 4, 2014 10:03 pm

I wouldn't be surprised if KOQ starts at PF this season at least for a while. It all depends on Gordon though. I know a lot of people don't think he is starter material but I think he is solid. He's got double double potential every night and can get 2 blocks a game. He needs to improve his shot a bit but he is the closest thing we have to a traditional PF.

Id like to hear some arguments against him starting that aren't just that he's not starter material. Why isn't he? What specifically about his game makes him a bench player? Is it his foul rate? FG%?

It seems he isn't given any slack and many just assume he won't ever improve some of these parts of his game.

I do think in the end he becomes a very valuable backup PF, but I don't see him as a major vulnerability as a starter. Sort of like Gortat was for a while, could have started and put up good numbers, was a great backup. He wound up getting paid. I see KOQ on a similar path but being a PF he won't see such a big payday down the road.

zerp · Post #51 » by **zerp** » Fri Jul 4, 2014 10:04 pm

Nicholson ?!! Andrew ?

We Are Saved !

axl_c_cool · Post #52 » by **axl_c_cool** » Fri Jul 4, 2014 10:05 pm

I actually think Randle will be good, I said that before the draft. I don't think he will be the reason Carmelo Anthony will sign. If Lebron James and Carmelo Anthony signed for the LA Lakers they would have a great 4 to move forward, it will not happen though

Post #53 » by **Def Swami** » Fri Jul 4, 2014 10:08 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/485182773364158469[/tweet]

OrlandO · Post #54 » by **OrlandO** » Fri Jul 4, 2014 10:08 pm

Neon1 wrote:Payton and A. Gordon have not played together once on the same team so far in practices. I'm thinking they are still running Dipo at the PG and have Payton backing up.

Fournier and B.Gordon likely manning the other guard.

Should we be reading into SL practices though? Could just be because Dipo and Payton are the best PGs of the group, so it makes sense to have them lead each team. Plus, Payton is already familiar with Gordon while Dipo is not...

rcklsscognition · Post #55 » by **rcklsscognition** » Fri Jul 4, 2014 10:10 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/485182773364158469[/tweet]

Henny is all over the place. Are we done tanking?

j-ragg · Post #56 » by **j-ragg** » Fri Jul 4, 2014 10:15 pm

Saw this on one of dr3's links to the U19 games. Had to make it into a gif.

Hope we see more of it in summer league!

Melvinlocker · Post #57 » by **Melvinlocker** » Fri Jul 4, 2014 10:16 pm

TDJacksonville wrote:
Melvinlocker wrote:
Skin wrote:I'm also happy we didn't get Patterson. That one left me confusing.

Getting someone who could space the floor out to the 3pt line at the four is almost a necessity if we are going to run the double point guard system with slashers like Dipo or Payton. PPat would have been perfect as a stretch four running pick and pop while being a good compliment to the power game of either Tobias and Aaron Gordon.

He was going to be overpriced from the looks of things which is why we probably didn't try to pick him up. There are other options out there that I bet Henny is actively pursuing. The caveat is the guys we target need to be better than Nicholson in order to make a it worthwhile.
frye.

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I would be elated if we got Frye as he would be my first choice for this team. Not sure he would sign with us though with some contenders pursuing him. We might have to overpay in that case and I think that would give Henny some pause.

DiplomaticMagic · Post #58 » by **DiplomaticMagic** » Fri Jul 4, 2014 10:18 pm

Marvin Williams?/ Why?? We don't need anymore freakin wings, lets get a PG and a veteran big and start the season already

silent1900 · Post #59 » by **silent1900** » Fri Jul 4, 2014 10:21 pm

Def Swami wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/485182773364158469[/tweet]

Well there will certainly be no stopping us now.

AddiFB · Post #60 » by **AddiFB** » Fri Jul 4, 2014 10:32 pm

j-ragg wrote:
Saw this on one of dr3's links to the U19 games. Had to make it into a gif.

Hope we see more of it in summer league!