Marc Stein - Doc Rivers or Pat Garrity to Replace Hennigan?

[PennytoShaq]

-Doc has been a terrible GM(austin would be in orlando in a hearthbit,if he would get the job and the power,i bet)
-Garrity has worked in a front office just since 2014 with SVG,surely not an impressive curricula

And both still way better than another year with hennigan(and her board groupies)

That's a good one. Maybe Hennigan should get fired so that we can continue the carousel of adoring the new guy for two weeks and then incessantly complaining and threatening to jump ship without any fair context given to a situation for the remainder of the tenure.

Posts like this one (passively self congratulatory while taking cheap shots at people) are what remind me how obsessed with instant gratification people are; throw in "comfortable with immediate low level analysis" as well.

Nailed it.

[ralphie9898]

I'll take both. Doc as president/figurehead and Garrity as GM.

I'm not a big fan of the GM + Coach role.

When has this worked out well? I'm sure there is an example or two out there but I can think of a few cases where very good coaches have been unable to navigate the GM role and that hindered their ability to be the great coaches they are.

Yeah me too. I would be fine with Rivers or giving Garrity a chance as Henny just hasn't been able to right this ship. Rivers is another name that could help us attract people here though I hope it would be more of either just as a coach or GM I prefer as a coach as while I am ok with what he has done in LA there I think there is room for improvement. Though I am fine with Vogel as our coach just as much so I guess it is more of a lateral move to replace Vogel with Rivers. But while I don't hate Hennigan I very well could see why the Magic part ways with him. Very interesting though as we look to change the culture in Orlando.

[Skin]

Great news! A new day is near.

Most importantly make the search extensive!!!

[thelead]

I'll take both. Doc as president/figurehead and Garrity as GM.

I'm not a big fan of the GM + Coach role.

When has this worked out well? I'm sure there is an example or two out there but I can think of a few cases where very good coaches have been unable to navigate the GM role and that hindered their ability to be the great coaches they are.

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I meant:

Pres: Doc
GM: Garrity
Coach: Vogel (for now)

[Flannerz]

Doc as GM?

[MagicFan101]

I'll take both. Doc as president/figurehead and Garrity as GM.

I'm not a big fan of the GM + Coach role.

When has this worked out well? I'm sure there is an example or two out there but I can think of a few cases where very good coaches have been unable to navigate the GM role and that hindered their ability to be the great coaches they are.

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I meant:

Pres: Doc
GM: Garrity
Coach: Vogel (for now)

The news is for Doc as a coach + GM.

I'm saying this isn't something I like. Your idea of separating the roles is a much better plan.

I am not one of the people calling for Henny and (especially not) Vogel to be fired but my loyalties are to the team, not them. If we did make a move I would hope we do not go the route of Detroit or Minny.

[pepe1991]

Doc is good coach and medicore GM

Doc is mediocre Coach and awful GM

Oh well, has ring ,so has that but he was almost fired before Celtics big 3

[tiderulz]

I think Doc has done fine for LAC. I'd gladly take him


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what has he done except re-sign his son? an FA's came to play with Chris Paul. and that Crawford contract looking pretty bad

[thelead]

I'm not a big fan of the GM + Coach role.

When has this worked out well? I'm sure there is an example or two out there but I can think of a few cases where very good coaches have been unable to navigate the GM role and that hindered their ability to be the great coaches they are.

?

I meant:

Pres: Doc
GM: Garrity
Coach: Vogel (for now)

The news is for Doc as a coach + GM.

I'm saying this isn't something I like. Your idea of separating the roles is a much better plan.

I am not one of the people calling for Henny and (especially not) Vogel to be fired but my loyalties are to the team, not them. If we did make a move I would hope we do not go the route of Detroit or Minny.

I agree. Coaches shouldn't be GM's. Not enough time in the day to do both well.

[AmazinMUSIC]

Hypothetically speaking if there were 29 other GM's available to do Hennigan's job, as I look around the league, only about 5 out of the 29 would've done a better job given all the same variables.

If the writing on the wall is correct, you guys will soon all get your wish of getting one of the 24 status quo NBA GM's that's left to replace Hennigan.

Good luck with that.


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[Bensational]

I understand these potential moves, but I'm not excited by them.

As many have pointed out, Doc has done well as a coach who inherits talent (Ainge got him the big 3, LAC already had Paul/Griffin/Jordan). His best moves to date were bringing in JJ and Crawford as 6th man (a couple years back, not recently). The rest of his moves are more the result of veterans coming to join his stars, not to play for him.

Bringing in Doc just sounds like a marketing move from Martins to sell more tickets. "Look, we're definitely playoff bound now because we're bringing in a former champion and the guy who lead our heart and hustle team!".

I just don't know what Doc could do with this team. I know he's a big fan of Vuc. I did make a post in another thread that we've got the makeup to be a poor man's version of his Boston Big 3 team, so maybe he could dust that old playbook off and get us to scrape into the playoffs? But without superstar talent, he's likely to look as bad as Vogel has. He's likely look like Boston pre Big 3 - but that team still had Paul Pierce and still sucked!

Who would he draft? Who would trade for? Who would he sign?

I could absolutely imagine him bringing in Austin and instantly ordaining him the star of the team.

Garrity has no background to speak of, really, so I can't comment much on him.

Maybe, hopefully, Doc makes a Riley-esque move and steps back to just being GM and President of basketball operations, and allows Vogel to stick around? I'd love to give Vogel more time with this team.

[Howard Mass]

Rob Hennigan might have had a tough hand with the lack of lotto luck but the moves this past summer and deciding Aaron Gordon should play SF were a disaster.

Even if they want to keep Rob Hennigan, they are going to have to make a change after 5 bad seasons.

A new GM will come in and someone like Pat Garrity is a possibility.

Doc Rivers might come back one day to coach but conflicts between Rivers and John Gabriel over personal cost both of them their jobs last decade. That was a disasterous drafting period as well.

I do not think Doc rivers will come back this summer and expect Frank Vogel to stay.

It's going to be an interesting summer.

[Nemesis21]

I hate how RDV always wants to hire someone who was part of the organization at some point in the past. What has that gotten us?

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We can at least agree that this would be a win, right?

[p0peye]

I'd rather have Stuff.

[SOUL]

No to Doc and ?? to Garrity.

[Bensational]

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We can at least agree that this would be a win, right?

I would be RIGHT behind this move. This has actually become my new dream.

[FFBlitzace]

I think Garrity is interesting because he's a smart guy. Doc Rivers as coach and GM would be pretty irritating.

[shadrock]

Just make sure Martins is no where near making basketball decisions and meddling in bball ops.

This doesnt sound like textbook Martins moves to you? Its so revoltingly PR focussed i can smell the grease from his hair in the room still.

This team is literally the new Kings and its so fking depressing.

[BadMofoPimp]

-Doc has been a terrible GM(austin would be in orlando in a hearthbit,if he would get the job and the power,i bet)
-Garrity has worked in a front office just since 2014 with SVG,surely not an impressive curricula

And both still way better than another year with hennigan(and her board groupies)

That's a good one. Maybe Hennigan should get fired so that we can continue the carousel of adoring the new guy for two weeks and then incessantly complaining and threatening to jump ship without any fair context given to a situation for the remainder of the tenure.

Posts like this one (passively self congratulatory while taking cheap shots at people) are what remind me how obsessed with instant gratification people are; throw in "comfortable with immediate low level analysis" as well.

Nailed it.

Henny had more than 2 weeks, but five years!!!!

Peeps around here praised Henny for a good 4 years tho.