The Franz Wagner Thread

Post #41 » by **eyriq** » Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:47 pm

tooler wrote:Ladies and gentlemen, we've done it. We've found something Franz is bad at. (I'm kidding, he has plenty of weaknesses.)

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He's our primary scorer in the 4th quarter -- and he's awesome at 60% true shooting in the quarter overall -- but that means teams finally start to key on him late in the quarter. The Utah game was a perfect example. I think Paolo will eventually grow into the role but he has a lot to learn first.

Keep in mind these are noisy stats (basically 6% of his shots for the year). Franz is a competitor so I suspect he's taking it all in.

I'm surprised he's so low. This is destined for Suggs though, that's our clutch gene dude

JoshuaPotter · Post #42 » by **JoshuaPotter** » Tue Jan 24, 2023 4:19 pm

FVV isn't much better, and we are all eying him. For what it is worth.

tooler · Post #43 » by **tooler** » Tue Jan 24, 2023 4:54 pm

Did anyone catch how they let Paolo take some clutch possessions last night? It wasn’t true clutch because we had a firm lead. He got a shot blocked but looked pretty comfortable.

Audi · Post #44 » by **Audi** » Tue Jan 24, 2023 5:29 pm

JoshuaPotter wrote:FVV isn't much better, and we are all eying him. For what it is worth.

He's actually worse. It's a weird list because of how the best/worst are listed and had to look twice. Franz is ranked the 'best' of the 10 'least clutch' spots on the list.

JoshuaPotter · Post #45 » by **JoshuaPotter** » Tue Jan 24, 2023 5:37 pm

tooler wrote:Did anyone catch how they let Paolo take some clutch possessions last night? It wasn’t true clutch because we had a firm lead. He got a shot blocked but looked pretty comfortable.

He has taken a potential game winner or two for us before as well. Something I am totally fine with. Even if it causes us to lose.

Post #46 » by **Knightro** » Mon Oct 9, 2023 9:12 pm

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tooler · Post #47 » by **tooler** » Mon Oct 9, 2023 9:25 pm

He's going to need to give me 40/15 tomorrow to demonstrate progress in year 3.

Post #48 » by **SOUL** » Mon Oct 9, 2023 9:58 pm

tooler wrote:He's going to need to give me 40/15 tomorrow to demonstrate progress in year 3.

In 15 minutes too!

ORLMagicGirl15 · Post #49 » by **ORLMagicGirl15** » Tue Oct 10, 2023 12:19 am

How much more do you guys think Franz can improve?

basketballRob · Post #50 » by **basketballRob** » Tue Oct 10, 2023 12:26 am

I think he could take 2-3 more 3-pt attempts per game. That would bring his average up to 22-23 ppg. He really needs to get his rebounding over 5 per game, too.

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purpleswordfish · Post #51 » by **purpleswordfish** » Tue Oct 10, 2023 12:45 am

I always thought he'd be a fringe All-Star that might sneak in a few years throughout his career. But, I don't put too much stock in All-Star selections. I think he's going to end up being a reliable starter that can score and do so efficiently as a second or maybe even third option.

There's nothing wrong with that, by the way. Every good team needs that "second banana" to open things up for the primary scorer and even role players. I think where you run into problems is when you ask a player to be something they're not. For example, Jalen Rose being "the guy" in Chicago in the early 2000's.

tooler · Post #52 » by **tooler** » Tue Oct 10, 2023 12:53 am

SOUL wrote:
tooler wrote:He's going to need to give me 40/15 tomorrow to demonstrate progress in year 3.

In 15 minutes too!

I need 38 minutes from him. We need to install a winning culture with preseason game 1.

drsd · Post #53 » by **drsd** » Tue Oct 10, 2023 7:17 am

ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:How much more do you guys think Franz can improve?

From SI yesterday: SI link: Orlando Magic SF Franz Wagner Compared to Kevin Durant, Kawhi Leonard

EDIT: this quote is about F-Wagner's offensive foot work being elite and special.

ORLMagicGirl15 · Post #54 » by **ORLMagicGirl15** » Tue Oct 10, 2023 10:32 am

drsd wrote:
ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:How much more do you guys think Franz can improve?

From SI yesterday: SI link: Orlando Magic SF Franz Wagner Compared to Kevin Durant, Kawhi Leonard

I get that Mosley compared him to those two but man, if that os the case I couldn’t be happier.

jonbob17 · Post #55 » by **jonbob17** » Tue Oct 10, 2023 3:02 pm

If i thought that fans, writers, and players understood what it took to win basketball games, I'd say Franz makes many all star games. Alas, i am not sure he will be appreciated for what he is, which is a really good player that helps win basketball games. The advanced metrics are going to love him (except blocks)....

Would just like to see him get his 3 point% up to 38+% and a couple more takes a game...maybe draw one more foul a game too. Then you are talking about a 23/5/4 guy that can initiate offense and is terrific connector, that is a good (not great) defender. It will be the small things that make him great.

Post #56 » by **Knightro** » Sun Feb 4, 2024 11:49 pm

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Post #57 » by **eyriq** » Mon Feb 5, 2024 12:09 am

Knightro wrote:

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That's remarkable

JBSouthpaw · Post #58 » by **JBSouthpaw** » Mon Feb 5, 2024 1:56 am

eyriq wrote:
Knightro wrote:

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That's remarkable

What may be more remarkable, 0-0 FTs, I’m sure the only one on this list with 0 FTs. Wonder if this is a league high points w/o any FTs?

Post #59 » by **eyriq** » Mon Feb 5, 2024 2:07 am

JBSouthpaw wrote:
eyriq wrote:
Knightro wrote:

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That's remarkable

What may be more remarkable, 0-0 FTs, I’m sure the only one on this list with 0 FTs. Wonder if this is a league high points w/o any FTs?

I liked how Mosley emphasized the number of drives into the paint without a call.

tooler · Post #60 » by **tooler** » Mon Feb 5, 2024 3:46 am

I watched the highlights and to be fair he encountered almost no resistance while driving to the rim this game. There were a few missed calls but that happens all the time, so statistically it doesn't seem as suspicious as it did at first.

What is Franz’s ceiling?