For all this hoopla over Wembanyanma, what about our own Banchero?

[Knightro]

Eh, you also are on record saying Franz is better than Paolo. You have a blind spot when comparing 1st options to 2nd or 3rd options.

That was factual information at the time it was said though.

Obviously since it was said, Paolo's defense and perimeter shooting have both improved significantly. Opinions can and should change as new information becomes available.

[eyriq]

Eh, you also are on record saying Franz is better than Paolo. You have a blind spot when comparing 1st options to 2nd or 3rd options.

That was factual information at the time it was said though.

Obviously since it was said, Paolo's defense and perimeter shooting have both improved significantly. Opinions can and should change as new information becomes available.

I don't think it was factual. I think you had to discount Paolo's role as our number one option and the impact he had on our play style.

But, like magicmatic says, I guess you could go either way in evaluating Franz versus Poolo.

But I'll just say, if you're going to start thinking Chet is better you can counter that very easily by considering role and impact on team dynamics. Paolo clears easily.

[basketballRob]

I'm starting to worry that Paolo is on a trajectory to be an all-nba player next season. That would mean a higher max extension for him.

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[JoshuaPotter]

I'm starting to worry that Paolo is on a trajectory to be an all-nba player next season. That would mean a higher max extension for him.

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Ppfftt! Dream big!

Orlando Championship 2023.

Paulo wins finals MVP. Franz gets an all-star nomination with Paulo. Suggs gets DPOTY. Black gets Rookie of the year. Cole gets SMOTY. Mo Swag gets MIP.

Orlando Magic declare bankruptcy from being unable to afford the team after all that winning. Sells it, and it gets moved to Vegas.

[ORLMagicGirl15]

I'm starting to worry that Paolo is on a trajectory to be an all-nba player next season. That would mean a higher max extension for him.

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Be prepared. The kid is going to get max or super max. I get the feeling that him and Franz will not give us a team friendly deal.

[ARandomStranger]

I understand the hype for Wemby, honestly I do, but the league has gone overboard with the hyping of this kid. Literally 19 games of national television coverage. 19! Trust me when I say watching Wemby is fine, he is going to be great in this league, but having to watch the YMCA team they have assembled around him is just sad.

Also, who cares about how much these two are going to get paid? Orlando has got a ton of team friendly contracts already and no matter what if this group is successful and puts us in contention then the price if worth being paid. Or am I just wrong about that?

[The-Stallion70]

I'm starting to worry that Paolo is on a trajectory to be an all-nba player next season. That would mean a higher max extension for him.

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What, you don't want to pay Banchero $260m+ deal that Haliburton and Edward's got?

[msmoore66]

I'm starting to worry that Paolo is on a trajectory to be an all-nba player next season. That would mean a higher max extension for him.

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What, you don't want to pay Banchero $260m+ deal that Haliburton and Edward's got?

Maybe he is a Devos and it's his actual money?

[SOUL]

I'm starting to worry that Paolo is on a trajectory to be an all-nba player next season. That would mean a higher max extension for him.

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What's to worry about that

[Bensational]

I like playing out the fantasy alternatives on 2K, but ultimately Paolo is on our team. Any doubt I might have for him which pops up, he answers. And this has been within the 17 games we’ve played this season.

He has lots of room to grow, same as Franz, but they’ve also shown they’re ready to grow with all the responsibility of leading a team and the pressures of a winning team. This really feels like a Cinderella run to me, in all the best ways.

[msmoore66]

I think these comparisons (which I don't really like the idea of much anyway) are always based largely on raw stats, maybe a few advanced ones. But there is always so much more to it than that. It has been mentioned in here a few times, but the roles played are completely different. Paolo leads this team on offense and is the focal point, Chet and Wemby (at this point anyway) don't. That is a big part of it to me.

[SOUL]

I like playing out the fantasy alternatives on 2K, but ultimately Paolo is on our team. Any doubt I might have for him which pops up, he answers. And this has been within the 17 games we’ve played this season.

He has lots of room to grow, same as Franz, but they’ve also shown they’re ready to grow with all the responsibility of leading a team and the pressures of a winning team. This really feels like a Cinderella run to me, in all the best ways.

Paolo can have a game where he shoots average, isn't great FTs, turns it over a bit and it's like 26/8/4 or something and you're like.. damn, once he has THOSE games he is going to have monster nights.

[RookieStar]

I'm starting to worry that Paolo is on a trajectory to be an all-nba player next season. That would mean a higher max extension for him.

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Be prepared. The kid is going to get max or super max. I get the feeling that him and Franz will not give us a team friendly deal.

If they deserve that money because of their gameplay then who cares. They earned it.

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[Last Guardian]

A lot of it comes down to uniqueness...Wemby prototype is just unheard of. But when you think about it I don't think Paolo gets enough credit for how unique he is. Not a ton of guys in the history of the game are 6'10 brick walls that can handle, pass and shoot...he's almost like a Blake Griffin/Carmelo hybrid.

[Black and Blue]

I think Chet v Paolo is closer when you look at the stats, but it is Paolo who is capable of being the first option, imo.

As for Wemby, lol, if you don’t see him possibly being a generational player… idk already.

This is the big point. We haven’t had an alpha to rely on at the end of games in forever, so finding this potential in Paolo is huge. Chet could eventually get there, but he seems more of a major contributor like Franz than THE guy. -Which makes sense with SGA on that team.

One of those rare situations where I think the top two teams in that draft, both OKC and Orlando, picked the optimal players to fill out their particular rosters.

[MasterGMer]

Paolo has to thank Orlando Magic organization who has put him in an ideal situation last year and this year. So should Franz and Suggs.

Yes, of course, Magic is a rebuilding team and we have a lot of young talents. But the opportunity to Playing Time and importance in our Game Plan, was and is a huge reason for their early success. (There is a reason why Kuminga is not playing a lot in Golden State's system)

That is why I think with the early investment by the organization, Paolo, Franz and Suggs have shown what they can do if the load is upon them. I also regard them as the young core of Orlando Magic. I also do hope they keep growing and make this team a contender in the East. I think that day is closer and closer.

They started this rebuild to contend for a Championship, not playoff mediocrity. And I hope we will achieve that goal at the end

Kudos to our young team. But the tougher part of schedule will come after in season tournament in Vegas. Hosting Cleveland and at Boston twice. Hope we keep shinning!

[JT3000]

No, just. No.

Wemby barring an injury might be a top 5 player all time.

And I might win the lottery next month. But I'm basing that on basically nothing, same as you with that absolutely hyperbolic projection for Wemby.

Paulo, when the dust settles...

... will still not be named "Paulo." How are we supposed to take your projections seriously when you can't even spell the man's name correctly? You sure you're not an undercover Spurs fan?

Well. No. It's called. "Projection" for a reason.

Somewhere between 90's ball and the ball that is played today. Players are drafted as prospects and even though we still have misses. We are hitting more often then we are not in todays modern NBA ball.

[pepe1991]

rookie exstension players can't get "supermax" , only Derrick Rose rule max, witch is 30% (instad of 25%) of total salary.
To be eligibable for supermax you need to be veteran with 8+ years in nba , along with several other achivments to even enter conversation (MVPs, DPOYs etc)


As whole Wembaynama thing goes, if you can't understand what's special about 7'4- 19 years old player with 30 professional basketball games in his life, averaging 20-10 while being 3rd in blocks , all that while still having underdeveloped body in terms of muscles i really don't know what to tell you.

When he enters his prime he will have games where quadruple double will be achivable. Like guy had 8 blocks last week, against Nuggets he had 4 blocks, 6 steals to go along 22-11. At age of 19. Against best player on planet Earth ( by faaar).


Spurs suck because they want to suck, they didn't even bother getting actual PG . Matter of fact they didn't even try to get anybody, they just used cap (that nba forced them to use) to resign own mediocrity Zach Collins.

They are entering 2024 draft with:
own pick (probably top 5)
Raptors top 6 protected pick (today, lottery pick)
Hornets top 14 protected pick


2025-
Bulls top 10 protected pick
Hawks pick with no protection
own pick


Odds are , in 3-4 years, they will have several top 10 picks drafted on current team, along with Victor + s*** load of salary cap.

Banchero has a chance to become great player, Victor has chance to become one of best players in history.

[JoshuaPotter]

No, just. No.

Wemby barring an injury might be a top 5 player all time.

And I might win the lottery next month. But I'm basing that on basically nothing, same as you with that absolutely hyperbolic projection for Wemby.

Paulo, when the dust settles...

... will still not be named "Paulo." How are we supposed to take your projections seriously when you can't even spell the man's name correctly? You sure you're not an undercover Spurs fan?

Well. No. It's called. "Projection" for a reason.

Somewhere between 90's ball and the ball that is played today. Players are drafted as prospects and even though we still have misses. We are hitting more often then we are not in todays modern NBA ball.

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[swarlesbarkley]

rookie exstension players can't get "supermax" , only Derrick Rose rule max, witch is 30% (instad of 25%) of total salary.
To be eligibable for supermax you need to be veteran with 8+ years in nba , along with several other achivments to even enter conversation (MVPs, DPOYs etc)


As whole Wembaynama thing goes, if you can't understand what's special about 7'4- 19 years old player with 30 professional basketball games in his life, averaging 20-10 while being 3rd in blocks , all that while still having underdeveloped body in terms of muscles i really don't know what to tell you.

When he enters his prime he will have games where quadruple double will be achivable. Like guy had 8 blocks last week, against Nuggets he had 4 blocks, 6 steals to go along 22-11. At age of 19. Against best player on planet Earth ( by faaar).


Spurs suck because they want to suck, they didn't even bother getting actual PG . Matter of fact they didn't even try to get anybody, they just used cap (that nba forced them to use) to resign own mediocrity Zach Collins.

They are entering 2024 draft with:
own pick (probably top 5)
Raptors top 6 protected pick (today, lottery pick)
Hornets top 14 protected pick


2025-
Bulls top 10 protected pick
Hawks pick with no protection
own pick


Odds are , in 3-4 years, they will have several top 10 picks drafted on current team, along with Victor + s*** load of salary cap.

Banchero has a chance to become great player, Victor has chance to become one of best players in history.

Paolo was averaging 21/7/4 (and 8 FTs per game) through his first 30 professional games. That seems good.

Wemby is only getting 3.6 FTs a game. That's a concern, no? We dealt with a big man who couldn't get to the line when we had Vuc and it was aggravating.