Official 2024-2025 Magic Trade ideas thread continued

[rcklsscognition]

What do I need to give up to get Lavine? I think I’m sold.

[three3d]

We are a young growing team and we are trending well. We don’t win with shooting.

We need more play making but AB and TDS are growing. We aren’t built to depend on a traditional PG and that’s a strength.

This is why I’m high on Anfernee Simons. He’s instant offense with some ability to not be a traditional point guard. He can be a facilitator and playmaker. As well as get his own buckets.

I watch Jazz and Blazers a lot. I’m not sure Simons fits from a mentality standpoint. Sexton seems closer.

I wanted to follow in love with one. My biggest problem is everything they are doing are on bad tanking teams.

Does that make what they are doing any easier? They still have to do it and for Simons who else on the Blazers is a defense going to key in on. That might make what Simons is able to do as a main focal point a little harder for him. Think about the open looks Simons would have with Paolo’s on court gravity. Vice versa how about Paolo’s spacing he’d be able to have with a ball handling combo guard whose offensively able to get to his spot on the floor and hit threes.

[RichCollab]

What do I need to give up to get Lavine? I think I’m sold.

We don’t need to make such a huge risk. Are we desperate now?

[RichCollab]

This is why I’m high on Anfernee Simons. He’s instant offense with some ability to not be a traditional point guard. He can be a facilitator and playmaker. As well as get his own buckets.

I watch Jazz and Blazers a lot. I’m not sure Simons fits from a mentality standpoint. Sexton seems closer.

I wanted to follow in love with one. My biggest problem is everything they are doing are on bad tanking teams.

Does that make what they are doing any easier? They still have to do it and for Simons who else on the Blazers is a defense going to key in on. That might make what Simons is able to do as a main focal point a little harder for him. Think about the open looks Simons would have with Paolo’s on court gravity. Vice versa how about Paolo’s spacing he’d be able to have with a ball handling combo guard whose offensively able to get to his spot on the floor and hit threes.

I’m fine picking one of them up as long as it doesn’t include AB or TDS. I’m not sure it makes us any better 2 years from now but low risk.

Sexton seems a bit more easy going and willing to bend towards what a team needs from him.

[rcklsscognition]

What do I need to give up to get Lavine? I think I’m sold.

We don’t need to make such a huge risk. Are we desperate now?

I feel like there is an ever increasing chance I may literally die before we contend.

[RookieStar]

What do I need to give up to get Lavine? I think I’m sold.

Bulls probably cant wait to let us take him off their hands. Especially with that 50m price tag

[Magic_Johnny12]

What do I need to give up to get Lavine? I think I’m sold.

We don’t need to make such a huge risk. Are we desperate now?

I feel like there is an ever increasing chance I may literally die before we contend.

A few things with Lavine (my personal thoughts)

- Just makes way too much money and would put Orlando into the 2nd apron
- Orlando has preached flexibility so Orlando dealing for a max player is highly highly unlikely
- Don’t think Orlando would move KCP until we have more data if he truly fits with a fully healthy team

Love Lavines game and despite his fit, just seems almost impossible for it to make sense acquiring him with all things considered.

Coby White actually makes a lot more sense/realistic and according to Chicago posters he might be secretly getting shopped.

[Skybox]

We don’t need to make such a huge risk. Are we desperate now?

I feel like there is an ever increasing chance I may literally die before we contend.

A few things with Lavine (my personal thoughts)

- Just makes way too much money and would put Orlando into the 2nd apron
- Orlando has preached flexibility so Orlando dealing for a max player is highly highly unlikely
- Don’t think Orlando would move KCP until we have more data if he truly fits with a fully healthy team

Love Lavines game and despite his fit, just seems almost impossible for it to make sense acquiring him with all things considered.

Coby White actually makes a lot more sense/realistic and according to Chicago posters he might be secretly getting shopped.

How can anyone complain about Simons' contract and talk about Lavine? Simons or Sexton are the obvious targets that don't break the bank or upset the precious hierarchy overnight...we can plug one in and let it develop without necessarily seeing it as a "threat" to Paolo or Franz.

[Magic_Johnny12]

We don’t need to make such a huge risk. Are we desperate now?

I feel like there is an ever increasing chance I may literally die before we contend.

A few things with Lavine (my personal thoughts)

- Just makes way too much money and would put Orlando into the 2nd apron
- Orlando has preached flexibility so Orlando dealing for a max player is highly highly unlikely
- Don’t think Orlando would move KCP until we have more data if he truly fits with a fully healthy team

Love Lavines game and despite his fit, just seems almost impossible for it to make sense acquiring him with all things considered.

Coby White actually makes a lot more sense/realistic and according to Chicago posters he might be secretly getting shopped.

I’m also add that our front office lacks any type of creativity, elite GM’s surround their star players with talent and figure the rest out later. Boston did it with Kyrie, Hayward, Porzingis and managed everytime to zig when things weren’t working out.

There is a realistic pathway where Orlando could trade for Lavine and it not completely handicap the team financially/or of assets and if things don’t work out have his huge expiring to dangle in the future, but this would require too much effort and possibly some hurt feelings (Klutch, Franz if they decide to move MO’s expiring etc.) and don’t think they’re prepared to actually be aggressive and just play the really long game because we are so young.

This risk adverse style of management just seems like they’re content with just being a good team for a long time to recoup the money they lost during rebuilding.

[basketballRob]

I think the Pacers are going to end up with Cam Johnson for either Mathurin or Jarace Walker.

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[Magic_Johnny12]

I think the Pacers are going to end up with Cam Johnson for either Mathurin or Jarace Walker.

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Good for them. Another clear example of a small market team surrounding their star player with good talent.

It wasn’t working out with Sabonis, they traded for Haliburton.

Haliburton was great sooner than they expected so they traded for Siakam to capitalize on the momentum and subsequently make the ECF.

They’re playing good as of late and they realize the East is wide open so they trade for yet another impact player by trading some of their of young players that may or may not be as good as current Cam Johnson.

Example after example of GM’s actually working towards putting together a contending team, not just wanting to get by.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

The wall is inevitably going to smack some people in the face pretty hard if those blinders don’t come off. The teams problems are as clear as day, there’s absolutely no mystery to it we’re lacking shooters and consistent playmaking outside Paolo and Franz. When your main problem is so clear to see you don’t wait for another season to address it, this season is a freebie to not title contending so you build your team next year now.

First it was Elfrid just needs shooters around him and we’ll be fine. Then it was Fultz will break out of his shooting yips he’s a beast. Now it’s blind homerism AB and Jett will make big jumps to All Stars.

It’s been our main problem for 6 years and this FO would rather force 2 Point Forwards and positional overlap vs just getting a guard who can create a shot for themselves and others.

We have a top 10 and 30 player. Not sure there are any parallels to Payton’s team. Suggs is a legit top 3 player on a team.

We haven’t been in this position since Dwight years.

AB is not Fultz or Payton. He has full confidence from Paolo, Franz and Mos. They go out of their way to call him out.

I’m specifically talking about adding scoring help with the current roster build. There’s always a blind homerism excuse for why we don’t need to add anything.


AB isn’t Fultz or Payton but we also don’t know what he is because he’s not used properly IMO. 0 reason why Black shouldn’t be getting more usage with the injuries we’ve got. This last game was a perfect example, he got confident and started to work nicely.

With KCP/Suggs out I want to see AB get the start or heavy minutes and play more like he did vs Milwaukee.

[BadMofoPimp]

What do I need to give up to get Lavine? I think I’m sold.

Magic can only afford him this season with no bench, next season would be Luxury tax with no bench.

[Bakomagic]

I think the Pacers are going to end up with Cam Johnson for either Mathurin or Jarace Walker.

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Good for them. Another clear example of a small market team surrounding their star player with good talent.

It wasn’t working out with Sabonis, they traded for Haliburton.

Haliburton was great sooner than they expected so they traded for Siakam to capitalize on the momentum and subsequently make the ECF.

They’re playing good as of late and they realize the East is wide open so they trade for yet another impact player by trading some of their of young players that may or may not be as good as current Cam Johnson.

Example after example of GM’s actually working towards putting together a contending team, not just wanting to get by.

No GM would trade Orlando’s situation with Indiana’s, even if they made a Cam Johnson trade.

We are better than Indiana now and in the future.

[SOUL]

Magic fans would've wanted Haliburton traded

[RookieStar]

Magic fans would've wanted Haliburton traded

6 games ago Magic fans wouldve wanted to tear it all down and waive theWhite Flagg

[cedric76]

I feel like there is an ever increasing chance I may literally die before we contend.

A few things with Lavine (my personal thoughts)

- Just makes way too much money and would put Orlando into the 2nd apron
- Orlando has preached flexibility so Orlando dealing for a max player is highly highly unlikely
- Don’t think Orlando would move KCP until we have more data if he truly fits with a fully healthy team

Love Lavines game and despite his fit, just seems almost impossible for it to make sense acquiring him with all things considered.

Coby White actually makes a lot more sense/realistic and according to Chicago posters he might be secretly getting shopped.

I’m also add that our front office lacks any type of creativity, elite GM’s surround their star players with talent and figure the rest out later. Boston did it with Kyrie, Hayward, Porzingis and managed everytime to zig when things weren’t working out.

There is a realistic pathway where Orlando could trade for Lavine and it not completely handicap the team financially/or of assets and if things don’t work out have his huge expiring to dangle in the future, but this would require too much effort and possibly some hurt feelings (Klutch, Franz if they decide to move MO’s expiring etc.) and don’t think they’re prepared to actually be aggressive and just play the really long game because we are so young.

This risk adverse style of management just seems like they’re content with just being a good team for a long time to recoup the money they lost during rebuilding.

Boston did it before the new cap rules

[Magic_Johnny12]

I think the Pacers are going to end up with Cam Johnson for either Mathurin or Jarace Walker.

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Good for them. Another clear example of a small market team surrounding their star player with good talent.

It wasn’t working out with Sabonis, they traded for Haliburton.

Haliburton was great sooner than they expected so they traded for Siakam to capitalize on the momentum and subsequently make the ECF.

They’re playing good as of late and they realize the East is wide open so they trade for yet another impact player by trading some of their of young players that may or may not be as good as current Cam Johnson.

Example after example of GM’s actually working towards putting together a contending team, not just wanting to get by.

No GM would trade Orlando’s situation with Indiana’s, even if they made a Cam Johnson trade.

We are better than Indiana now and in the future.

I’m not sure how you did it, because my message was very clear but you completely missed my general point.

[Skybox]

Magic fans would've wanted Haliburton traded

I get the jab, but despite a few months of Hali MVP- level brilliance last season…SAC isn’t up at night, hating Sabonis/Fox vs Hali/Fox

I’m sure they’d rethink, but we’ve certainly seen worse moves.

[Blue_and_Whte]

Is it too much to ask to get some consistent shooting? Why has it been so difficult? I’m watching Luke Kennard open everything up for Memphis just by being on the floor.