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Why can't Banchero uplift this team like Franz could?

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Re: Why can't Banchero uplift this team like Franz could? 

Post#41 » by eyriq » Sat Jan 18, 2025 5:13 pm

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Re: Why can't Banchero uplift this team like Franz could? 

Post#42 » by JF5 » Sat Jan 18, 2025 5:46 pm

This is not a good thread... Paolo is on minutes restriction and has only played like 9 games this season.

This is very similar to when Franz got sick and didn't start to look good until 1-2 weeks after. The same is likely to be the same for Banchero once he's off minutes restriction and shakes off the rust.
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Re: Why can't Banchero uplift this team like Franz could? 

Post#43 » by RichCollab » Sat Jan 18, 2025 5:50 pm

I’m ok with the moment we are in.

Adversity is how you rise. Let’s see who shows up to the moment.

Mos and Paolo I’m starting with you two next game. Where can you take us?
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Re: Why can't Banchero uplift this team like Franz could? 

Post#44 » by Ducklett » Sat Jan 18, 2025 5:53 pm

The-Stallion70 wrote:We are playing much better teams during this stretch, sure but I am pissed off after losing by 30 points for the second game in a row. We are missing a ton of guys, yeah but still I don't think we should lose by 30 points to other good teams, if Banchero and some of our supporting cast are really quite as good as we've been led to believe.

Banchero looks like he plays the game like KD but he's the not the shooter KD is. He plays it like a tall jumpshooter, he doesn't appear to have the same blow-by ability as Franz and is not the same athlete.

Franz was honestly looking like the best player we've had since Dwight, averaging 25, 6 and 6 over 20+ games. Everybody was getting involved, he was scoring from all over the floor and distributing.

Is Paolo really a "three-level" scorer? He doesn't appear to beat his guy and get all the way to the rim very often.


I told you guys several times that the doctor they had on the local sports radio said this was one of those injuries where he would be cleared well before he was able to be back to 100%. We also have way more guys out than Franz. What is going on on this board recently.
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Re: Why can't Banchero uplift this team like Franz could? 

Post#45 » by basketballRob » Sat Jan 18, 2025 7:14 pm

Rainwater wrote:I feel context means nothing to OP. Franz played a softer/easier schedule, played with a healthier team, and wasn’t on a mins restriction. These are not the privileges that Paolo had.
Paolo is on minutes restriction because he isn't 100% yet

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Re: Why can't Banchero uplift this team like Franz could? 

Post#46 » by VFX » Sat Jan 18, 2025 7:43 pm

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Re: Why can't Banchero uplift this team like Franz could? 

Post#47 » by Audi » Sat Jan 18, 2025 8:06 pm

Just here to say, I hate this.
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Re: Why can't Banchero uplift this team like Franz could? 

Post#48 » by rcklsscognition » Sat Jan 18, 2025 8:18 pm

Realistically what could we get for Paolo in a trade?
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Re: Why can't Banchero uplift this team like Franz could? 

Post#49 » by pepe1991 » Sat Jan 18, 2025 8:30 pm

Strength of competition matters.
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Re: Why can't Banchero uplift this team like Franz could? 

Post#50 » by ogmagicfan » Sat Jan 18, 2025 8:35 pm

Part of the reason I didn't want Paolo to come back until after the Nuggets game was overreactions like this

Especially during the loss against the Jazz, you could see our team is exhausted and the laundry list of injuries and deep bench players starting/getting deep minutes is something thats only so sustainable.

Since then, we've only racked up more injuries, if thats even possible (Goga, KCP) and there's an illness spreading among our team.

Paolo isn't a 100%, and he isn't driving as much because the oblique is still bothering him, I'd reckon both mentally & physically

We need the All-Star break as badly as any team in the NBA
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Re: Why can't Banchero uplift this team like Franz could? 

Post#51 » by The-Stallion70 » Sat Jan 18, 2025 9:00 pm

pepe1991 wrote:Strength of competition matters.

Again I addressed this and youre all still missing the point. What is going on on this board.
California Gold wrote:This is extra because people hate the Lakers and their brand so much.

This trade wasn't some conspiracy - it was just a GM wanting AD bad enough where in most people's eyes he overpaid by a long shot to get him.
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Re: Why can't Banchero uplift this team like Franz could? 

Post#52 » by BadMofoPimp » Sat Jan 18, 2025 9:04 pm

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BadMofoPimp wrote:Magic struggled for a few games when Paolo first went out and Franz was lead, so I expected struggles until the team gets the new chemistry.


Thing is our offense and spacing are even worse now with Goga starting and no Mo. I think Management will try to make a trade to make up for the loss of Mo.

I'm not sure this group will have much of a chance to develop chemistry.


Vooch would be perfect off the bench.
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Re: Why can't Banchero uplift this team like Franz could? 

Post#53 » by Rainwater » Sat Jan 18, 2025 10:38 pm

The-Stallion70 wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:Strength of competition matters.

Again I addressed this and youre all still missing the point. What is going on on this board.


It’s kinda funny you are blaming the board when your narrative might be the problem, lol.
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Re: Why can't Banchero uplift this team like Franz could? 

Post#54 » by The-Stallion70 » Sat Jan 18, 2025 11:07 pm

Rainwater wrote:
The-Stallion70 wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:Strength of competition matters.

Again I addressed this and youre all still missing the point. What is going on on this board.


It’s kinda funny you are blaming the board when your narrative might be the problem, lol.


You have once again added nothing of substance. Shocker. Not convinced that you know anything about the game and if you do, which I doubt, it appears you prefer to just comment about other posters rather than discuss the game :noway: :lol: .
California Gold wrote:This is extra because people hate the Lakers and their brand so much.

This trade wasn't some conspiracy - it was just a GM wanting AD bad enough where in most people's eyes he overpaid by a long shot to get him.
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Re: Why can't Banchero uplift this team like Franz could? 

Post#55 » by fendilim » Sat Jan 18, 2025 11:35 pm

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Re: Why can't Banchero uplift this team like Franz could? 

Post#56 » by SOUL » Sat Jan 18, 2025 11:55 pm

The-Stallion70 wrote:
Rainwater wrote:
The-Stallion70 wrote:Again I addressed this and youre all still missing the point. What is going on on this board.


It’s kinda funny you are blaming the board when your narrative might be the problem, lol.


You have once again added nothing of substance. Shocker. Not convinced that you know anything about the game and if you do, which I doubt, it appears you prefer to just comment about other posters rather than discuss the game :noway: :lol: .


I think what people are trying to impart upon you is that Franz may very well be "better" than Paolo this year, considering we know how good Franz is on both sides (when his three is hitting), but it has nothing to do with this particular hand-picked stretch of games, where if you're actually trying to compare it to a 1:1 scenario, you would take the stretch of games post-Paolo injury where we went 0-5 (on the road with tough opponents) and people were panicking, so we should probably be patient with any overreactions.
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Re: Why can't Banchero uplift this team like Franz could? 

Post#57 » by Skybox » Sun Jan 19, 2025 12:06 am

The-Stallion70 wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:Strength of competition matters.

Again I addressed this and youre all still missing the point. What is going on on this board.


As much as it pains me :lol: I have to agree with you...it's a reasonable topic of discussion, not a crucifixion of Paolo. :banghead:

As usual, any analysis that doesn't begin with "Yay" starts all of the moaning and whining about "haters"

Perhaps, I'm missing the whole point myself (I've been accused...) but:

1-Paolo is awesome and more of a star than Franz. Very few can get a bucket and draw FTs like Paolo, even in big-game moments
2-Paolo, however, could put up 40 pts on any night and not necessarily get his team a win
3-IMO, Franz is a much better playmaker, regardless of their respective assist numbers, than Paolo, and seems more likely to lift the
performances of his teammates than Paolo. Just my opinion and they're both really young and playmaking might improve in both.

Honestly, I think Franz should be our PG and maybe he is when we're healthy. The position labels don't mean much, but if your starting 1-3 are Suggs, KCP, and Franz...Franz should be initiating much of the offense and KCP is primarily a spot up guy - so who cares what you call him. If Suggs brings the ball up - fine - but he's usually getting rid of it to P or F pretty quickly...After the first little slip after Paolo's injury, Franz was playing at an All-NBA level, imo...I'm eager to see how the two look when he returns. Paolo is trying really hard to will the team to victory and not at 100%, so it's not really surprising that the young angry bull is regressing to iso-heavy play.
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Re: Why can't Banchero uplift this team like Franz could? 

Post#58 » by SOUL » Sun Jan 19, 2025 12:10 am

Skybox wrote:Honestly, I think Franz should be our PG and maybe he is when we're healthy.


This is basically what we were running before the Franz injury. Suggs was the primary initiator for the first like 10 games, then we realized Franz was doing better being the hub.
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Re: Why can't Banchero uplift this team like Franz could? 

Post#59 » by Skybox » Sun Jan 19, 2025 12:23 am

SOUL wrote:
Skybox wrote:Honestly, I think Franz should be our PG and maybe he is when we're healthy.


This is basically what we were running before the Franz injury. Suggs was the primary initiator for the first like 10 games, then we realized Franz was doing better being the hub.


I love it...Franz can definitely do it and it could lead to some crazy long and suffocating defensive lineups...then, consider AB off the bench behind him - no rest for opposing POA.

Franz, AB, CoJo
Suggs, Harris/Cole or, preferably Sexton/Simons...
KCP, TdS
Paolo, Isaac, WCJ
Goga, WCJ
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Re: Why can't Banchero uplift this team like Franz could? 

Post#60 » by 89Magicfan » Sun Jan 19, 2025 12:48 am

Suggs being injured is a huge factor. Bigger than some admit.

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