Surfing the New CBA - Weltman Comment and Target
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Defense be damned, I still think Simmons is the best option we currently have.
            
                                    
                                    
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Skybox wrote:orlando_joe wrote:Skybox wrote:
Dishonest? You're thinking too much or too little...I was just stating what his salary was, for scale. Pritchard is as amazing a deal as KCP is a bad one.
Again, not anti-KCP, Goga, or even WCJ...the deals are bad not the players.
sorry my comment was for harris...
i dont even think the other deals are bad...but i do wish kcp 3rd season was t.o. not p.o...but with his agent that was never going to let that happen...lol
i also see most fa signings costing 20-25% more..unless you are real top few competing teams might get fair or under market.but you do not give assets
Makes the signing of the wrong guy at the wrong position with the wrong skillset even stupider
looking at it now sure...to be fair only saw a games of full lineup...even lebron,wade and bosh took half a season to click?
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orlando_joe wrote:Skybox wrote:orlando_joe wrote:sorry my comment was for harris...
i dont even think the other deals are bad...but i do wish kcp 3rd season was t.o. not p.o...but with his agent that was never going to let that happen...lol
i also see most fa signings costing 20-25% more..unless you are real top few competing teams might get fair or under market.but you do not give assets
Makes the signing of the wrong guy at the wrong position with the wrong skillset even stupider
looking at it now sure...to be fair only saw a games of full lineup...even lebron,wade and bosh took half a season to click?

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Cammo101 wrote:Defense be damned, I still think Simmons is the best option we currently have.
Winner winner. It’a chicken for dinner.
maginno wrote:There is nothing wrong with this team that putting a few unloaded guns in Carter's gym bag will not solve.
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TheChaser wrote:Cammo101 wrote:Defense be damned, I still think Simmons is the best option we currently have.
Winner winner. It’a chicken for dinner.
If he is willing to take less than 90M / 4yr deal to play at home (and pay less taxes) ,he could be a good fit.
With that wingspan, playing along suggs+ KCP and being coached by mose, there are no reasons why he couldn't become an ok Defender
Suggs, Tyus, Jase
Bane, AB, Jett
Franz, TDS,
P5, JI, Panda
Wcj, Goga, Moe
                        Bane, AB, Jett
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cedric76 wrote:TheChaser wrote:Cammo101 wrote:Defense be damned, I still think Simmons is the best option we currently have.
Winner winner. It’a chicken for dinner.
If he is willing to take less than 90M / 4yr deal to play at home (and pay less taxes) ,he could be a good fit.
With that wingspan, playing along suggs+ KCP and being coached by mose, there are no reasons why he couldn't become an ok Defender
How is Simons playing alongside KCP?
KCP is coming off the bench or he is being moved if they re-sign Simons.
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VFX wrote:cedric76 wrote:TheChaser wrote:
Winner winner. It’a chicken for dinner.
If he is willing to take less than 90M / 4yr deal to play at home (and pay less taxes) ,he could be a good fit.
With that wingspan, playing along suggs+ KCP and being coached by mose, there are no reasons why he couldn't become an ok Defender
How is Simons playing alongside KCP?
KCP is coming off the bench or he is being moved if they re-sign Simons.
KCP would be moved to the bench and would play minutes alongside Simons
Suggs, Tyus, Jase
Bane, AB, Jett
Franz, TDS,
P5, JI, Panda
Wcj, Goga, Moe
                        Bane, AB, Jett
Franz, TDS,
P5, JI, Panda
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cedric76 wrote:VFX wrote:cedric76 wrote:
If he is willing to take less than 90M / 4yr deal to play at home (and pay less taxes) ,he could be a good fit.
With that wingspan, playing along suggs+ KCP and being coached by mose, there are no reasons why he couldn't become an ok Defender
How is Simons playing alongside KCP?
KCP is coming off the bench or he is being moved if they re-sign Simons.
KCP would be moved to the bench and would play minutes alongside Simons
Waste of money.
Paying KCP $23m/2 to come off the bench to play 20-24 mpg. Thats starter money.
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cedric76 wrote:VFX wrote:cedric76 wrote:
If he is willing to take less than 90M / 4yr deal to play at home (and pay less taxes) ,he could be a good fit.
With that wingspan, playing along suggs+ KCP and being coached by mose, there are no reasons why he couldn't become an ok Defender
How is Simons playing alongside KCP?
KCP is coming off the bench or he is being moved if they re-sign Simons.
KCP would be moved to the bench and would play minutes alongside Simons
Simons would be awesome off the bench. He’ll get all the touches he needs to be effective.

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fendilim wrote:cedric76 wrote:VFX wrote:
How is Simons playing alongside KCP?
KCP is coming off the bench or he is being moved if they re-sign Simons.
KCP would be moved to the bench and would play minutes alongside Simons
Simons would be awesome off the bench. He’ll get all the touches he needs to be effective.
Simons would instantly be Orlando's best back court scorer if acquired.
He isnt coming off the bench for bum KCP.
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VFX wrote:fendilim wrote:cedric76 wrote:
KCP would be moved to the bench and would play minutes alongside Simons
Simons would be awesome off the bench. He’ll get all the touches he needs to be effective.
Simons would instantly be Orlando's best back court scorer if acquired.
He isnt coming off the bench for bum KCP.
KCP is not a bum, silly talk, no NBA player r bum
Suggs, Tyus, Jase
Bane, AB, Jett
Franz, TDS,
P5, JI, Panda
Wcj, Goga, Moe
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NBA combine measurements
Sexton:
W/o shoes 6' 0.5''
Standing reach : 8' 2.5''
Wingspan: 6' 7.25
Simons:
W/O shoes: 6' 2.25
Standing reach: 8' 3.5'
Wingspan: 6' 9.25
Quickley:
W/O shoes: 6'2
Standing reach: 8' 3.0'
Wingspan: 6' 8.25
Coby white:
W/O shoes: 6'3.5
Standing reach: 8' 1.5'
Wingspan: 6' 5
Tyler Herro:
W/O shoes: 6'4.5
Standing reach: 8' 4.5'
Wingspan: 6' 3.25
Derrick White:
W/O shoes: 6'3.25
Standing reach: 8' 5.5'
Wingspan: 6' 7.5
Austin reaves:
W/O shoes: 6'4.5
Standing reach: 8' 5
Wingspan: 6' 6.25
Malik monk:
W/O shoes: 6'2.25
Standing reach: 8' 3
Wingspan: 6' 3.5
I know measurement don't always translate in Defense, but Simons should be an above average defender with those tools
If he agrees to extend with us for less than 96/4 yrs, i m ok trading for him
Cole + #16 + Harris (exp) + Jett (young prospect) for Simons
            
                                    
                                    Sexton:
W/o shoes 6' 0.5''
Standing reach : 8' 2.5''
Wingspan: 6' 7.25
Simons:
W/O shoes: 6' 2.25
Standing reach: 8' 3.5'
Wingspan: 6' 9.25
Quickley:
W/O shoes: 6'2
Standing reach: 8' 3.0'
Wingspan: 6' 8.25
Coby white:
W/O shoes: 6'3.5
Standing reach: 8' 1.5'
Wingspan: 6' 5
Tyler Herro:
W/O shoes: 6'4.5
Standing reach: 8' 4.5'
Wingspan: 6' 3.25
Derrick White:
W/O shoes: 6'3.25
Standing reach: 8' 5.5'
Wingspan: 6' 7.5
Austin reaves:
W/O shoes: 6'4.5
Standing reach: 8' 5
Wingspan: 6' 6.25
Malik monk:
W/O shoes: 6'2.25
Standing reach: 8' 3
Wingspan: 6' 3.5
I know measurement don't always translate in Defense, but Simons should be an above average defender with those tools
If he agrees to extend with us for less than 96/4 yrs, i m ok trading for him
Cole + #16 + Harris (exp) + Jett (young prospect) for Simons
Suggs, Tyus, Jase
Bane, AB, Jett
Franz, TDS,
P5, JI, Panda
Wcj, Goga, Moe
                        Bane, AB, Jett
Franz, TDS,
P5, JI, Panda
Wcj, Goga, Moe
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cedric76 wrote:VFX wrote:fendilim wrote:Simons would be awesome off the bench. He’ll get all the touches he needs to be effective.
Simons would instantly be Orlando's best back court scorer if acquired.
He isnt coming off the bench for bum KCP.
KCP is not a bum, silly talk, no NBA player r bum
The central point that if SImons and Caldwell-Pope are both on the roster - Simons starts - is accurate though.
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They'll probably just let Harris walk to stay under the first apron. I just read if the Cavs pay Jerome $14m next season , it'll cost them $78m in taxes.cedric76 wrote:NBA combine measurements
Sexton:
W/o shoes 6' 0.5''
Standing reach : 8' 2.5''
Wingspan: 6' 7.25
Simons:
W/O shoes: 6' 2.25
Standing reach: 8' 3.5'
Wingspan: 6' 9.25
Quickley:
W/O shoes: 6'2
Standing reach: 8' 3.0'
Wingspan: 6' 8.25
Coby white:
W/O shoes: 6'3.5
Standing reach: 8' 1.5'
Wingspan: 6' 5
Tyler Herro:
W/O shoes: 6'4.5
Standing reach: 8' 4.5'
Wingspan: 6' 3.25
Derrick White:
W/O shoes: 6'3.25
Standing reach: 8' 5.5'
Wingspan: 6' 7.5
Austin reaves:
W/O shoes: 6'4.5
Standing reach: 8' 5
Wingspan: 6' 6.25
Malik monk:
W/O shoes: 6'2.25
Standing reach: 8' 3
Wingspan: 6' 3.5
I know measurement don't always translate in Defense, but Simons should be an above average defender with those tools
If he agrees to extend with us for less than 96/4 yrs, i m ok trading for him
Cole + #16 + Harris (exp) + Jett (young prospect) for Simons
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drsd wrote:cedric76 wrote:VFX wrote:
Simons would instantly be Orlando's best back court scorer if acquired.
He isnt coming off the bench for bum KCP.
KCP is not a bum, silly talk, no NBA player r bum
The central point that if SImons and Caldwell-Pope are both on the roster - Simons starts - is accurate though.
Yes, but Calling a NBA player a BUM is DUMB

Suggs,AB
Simons,KCP
Would be very solid and knowing how tough and long is a season, KCP would get many minutes (keep in mind that KCP can play minutes at SF too)
Suggs, Tyus, Jase
Bane, AB, Jett
Franz, TDS,
P5, JI, Panda
Wcj, Goga, Moe
                        Bane, AB, Jett
Franz, TDS,
P5, JI, Panda
Wcj, Goga, Moe
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basketballRob wrote:They'll probably just let Harris walk to stay under the first apron. I just read if the Cavs pay Jerome $14m next season , it'll cost them $78m in taxes.cedric76 wrote:NBA combine measurements
Sexton:
W/o shoes 6' 0.5''
Standing reach : 8' 2.5''
Wingspan: 6' 7.25
Simons:
W/O shoes: 6' 2.25
Standing reach: 8' 3.5'
Wingspan: 6' 9.25
Quickley:
W/O shoes: 6'2
Standing reach: 8' 3.0'
Wingspan: 6' 8.25
Coby white:
W/O shoes: 6'3.5
Standing reach: 8' 1.5'
Wingspan: 6' 5
Tyler Herro:
W/O shoes: 6'4.5
Standing reach: 8' 4.5'
Wingspan: 6' 3.25
Derrick White:
W/O shoes: 6'3.25
Standing reach: 8' 5.5'
Wingspan: 6' 7.5
Austin reaves:
W/O shoes: 6'4.5
Standing reach: 8' 5
Wingspan: 6' 6.25
Malik monk:
W/O shoes: 6'2.25
Standing reach: 8' 3
Wingspan: 6' 3.5
I know measurement don't always translate in Defense, but Simons should be an above average defender with those tools
If he agrees to extend with us for less than 96/4 yrs, i m ok trading for him
Cole + #16 + Harris (exp) + Jett (young prospect) for Simons
Sent from my SM-G998U1 using RealGM mobile app
Portland would cut Gary once traded
Suggs, Tyus, Jase
Bane, AB, Jett
Franz, TDS,
P5, JI, Panda
Wcj, Goga, Moe
                        Bane, AB, Jett
Franz, TDS,
P5, JI, Panda
Wcj, Goga, Moe
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DLo
w/o shoes 6'3.25"
standing reach 8'6"
wingspan 6'9.75"
Black
w/o shoes 6'5.75"
standing reach 8'6.50"
wingspan 6'7.50"
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                        w/o shoes 6'3.25"
standing reach 8'6"
wingspan 6'9.75"
Black
w/o shoes 6'5.75"
standing reach 8'6.50"
wingspan 6'7.50"
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cedric76 wrote:Yes, but Calling a NBA player a BUM is DUMB
The worst player in the NBA is one of the 500 best basketball players on planet Earth. That is not a debatable point!
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drsd wrote:cedric76 wrote:Yes, but Calling a NBA player a BUM is DUMB
The worst player in the NBA is one of the 500 best basketball players on planet Earth. That is not a debatable point!
Exactly
Suggs, Tyus, Jase
Bane, AB, Jett
Franz, TDS,
P5, JI, Panda
Wcj, Goga, Moe
                        Bane, AB, Jett
Franz, TDS,
P5, JI, Panda
Wcj, Goga, Moe
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basketballRob wrote:DLo
w/o shoes 6'3.25"
standing reach 8'6"
wingspan 6'9.75"
Black
w/o shoes 6'5.75"
standing reach 8'6.50"
wingspan 6'7.50"
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DLO has the talent , no question about it
Suggs, Tyus, Jase
Bane, AB, Jett
Franz, TDS,
P5, JI, Panda
Wcj, Goga, Moe
                        Bane, AB, Jett
Franz, TDS,
P5, JI, Panda
Wcj, Goga, Moe









