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BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 1st Round Picks + 1 1st Round Pick Swap)

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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks) 

Post#41 » by OrlChamps2030 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 3:34 pm

zuppafly wrote:4 firsts unprotected including the suns pick of next year that will very very likely be a high lottery one.

For a KCP upgrade.

Not a PG, not someone who can take the playmaking burden out of PB and Franz.

We're all in on Suggs becoming a real point guard on his 5th year, if healthy.

How does this front office crew have a job is beyond me. They just set us back multiple years. What a bunch of idiots...


Bane is a much better playmaker than Suggs/Black

Not saying much though, lol
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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks) 

Post#42 » by SOUL » Sun Jun 15, 2025 3:35 pm

pepe1991 wrote:Bane is on long term contract and very, very good player, but price tag for a guy that isn't clear cut superstar is flat out I.N.S.A.I.N.

That is type of haul you are proposing to get prime Durant, Lebron, Giannis, not fringe all star player that really isn't fixing some issues you already have on roster.

From salary cap POV, Banchero + Suggs + Franz + Bane = $160M in 2026-27 :lol:

I guess our C rotation will continue to be Goga, Carter and Isaac for rest of this decade :lol:


Magic now have, from 2025-2031 - two first round picks. Not very valuable 25th pick ( way too late) and 2027 first round pick.

Scary.

Bane helps shooting issues. Bane adds to our shooting.
But Bane isn't very durable player, isn't really young ( 27, pretty much in his prime) and isn't full time playmaker.


Tbh this feels like panic move made by person who is in fear for his job. Esencially, this is Ibaka trade, just in this case Ibaka has more years left on his deal.
But Hennigan didn't sold 6 round picks for Ibaka, just one.


Mikal and Gobert went for similar prices lol. It's KCP and Cole going out, none of the core.

It's an overpay but that does not get you prime Durant, leBron, Giannis. Come on.
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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks) 

Post#43 » by Blue_and_Whte » Sun Jun 15, 2025 3:35 pm

4 firsts is probably what they needed to include to make a big move as promised. I mean everyone wants a big trade but not the risks that come with it. You can’t have both. Massive upgrade. I’m impressed that they kept AB and Suggs but the off-season isn’t over yet.
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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks) 

Post#44 » by pepe1991 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 3:35 pm

Bane averages 2,5 apg for career in playoffs. Sure, in this awkward, no pick&roll system for Grizzlies he piled up nice APG count, but that gimmick of him "playmaking" never worked in playoffs.

He isn't playmaker.


But that's not an issue. bigger issue is that we finally know that some of us were right all along about adding " good contracts that will be eventually good assets in trades" was complete and utter BULL.

In order to upgrade roster and get rid of "good value KCP" and "good value Cole" Magic ended up paying 4 unprotected picks + 16 pick.
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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks) 

Post#45 » by tiderulz » Sun Jun 15, 2025 3:36 pm

pepe1991 wrote:Bane is on long term contract and very, very good player, but price tag for a guy that isn't clear cut superstar is flat out I.N.S.A.I.N.

That is type of haul you are proposing to get prime Durant, Lebron, Giannis, not fringe all star player that really isn't fixing some issues you already have on roster.

From salary cap POV, Banchero + Suggs + Franz + Bane = $160M in 2026-27 :lol:

I guess our C rotation will continue to be Goga, Carter and Isaac for rest of this decade :lol:


Magic now have, from 2025-2031 - two first round picks. Not very valuable 25th pick ( way too late) and 2027 first round pick.

Scary.

Bane helps shooting issues. Bane adds to our shooting.
But Bane isn't very durable player, isn't really young ( 27, pretty much in his prime) and isn't full time playmaker.


Tbh this feels like panic move made by person who is in fear for his job. Esencially, this is Ibaka trade, just in this case Ibaka has more years left on his deal.
But Hennigan didn't sold 6 round picks for Ibaka, just one.

and a pick in 2029. and those picks given up would have been non-lottery picks anyways. East is so weak, we would be making the playoffs.
so we have 1st in 2025, 2027, 2029. And there is almost always a late 1st available for sale by some team.

Wish we had a bit more playmaking, but I'll hold off til i see the on court product. Bane avg'd 5+ apg for past 3 years.
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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks) 

Post#46 » by ibraheim718 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 3:36 pm

Bane is a really durable player also.. can play make but the shooting is important. The unprotected picks are going to be at the bottom of the first round and with not many roster spots makes it a great trade. Look at it from Memphis' point of view they only traded him because they're going to try and retool/rebuild. I love the trade keeps with the toughness theme.. but the team needed the shooting desperately.. the volume 3pt shooting specifically.
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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks) 

Post#47 » by zuppafly » Sun Jun 15, 2025 3:37 pm

pepe1991 wrote:Bane is on long term contract and very, very good player, but price tag for a guy that isn't clear cut superstar is flat out I.N.S.A.I.N.

That is type of haul you are proposing to get prime Durant, Lebron, Giannis, not fringe all star player that really isn't fixing some issues you already have on roster.

From salary cap POV, Banchero + Suggs + Franz + Bane = $160M in 2026-27 :lol:

I guess our C rotation will continue to be Goga, Carter and Isaac for rest of this decade :lol:


Magic now have, from 2025-2031 - two first round picks. Not very valuable 25th pick ( way too late) and 2027 first round pick.

Scary.

Bane helps shooting issues. Bane adds to our shooting.
But Bane isn't very durable player, isn't really young ( 27, pretty much in his prime) and isn't full time playmaker.


Tbh this feels like panic move made by person who is in fear for his job. Esencially, this is Ibaka trade, just in this case Ibaka has more years left on his deal.
But Hennigan didn't sold 6 round picks for Ibaka, just one.


This is exactly the type of Ibaka trade that will eventually lead to firing Wellman and Parker, after everyone in the team management understands they screwed us badly.

Bane is a good player, no question about it, but our issues are playmaking, ability to shoot out of the dribble (on paly creation) and a proper C.
This addresses none of them and the cap situation is now ridiculous.
We have 4 players with extremely high contracts and the rest will be scrubs.

What a panic trade this is... We got fleeced hard.
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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks) 

Post#48 » by 3ddman23 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 3:38 pm

Holy cow!!!! I like it.

It's really just a bit of word salad.
When u break it down it's really not as bad as it looks picks wise.

This year pick isn't unprotected it was already at 16. ( Plus the magic still have have pick 25)
The phoenix pick wasn't even ares to begin with. It's exactly what the pick was acquired for to add to a trade. (Isn't this the picky hat has a bunch of stipulations with it anyways(.
The 29 pick swap is what it is. ( The magic still get a first round pick this year).

The only true unprotected picks they gave up was year 28 & 30...

That's not bad at all when u factor bane is a really big get for this organization. Still young, locked in long term, exactly what the magic needed.

The players involved were non factors(salary fillers), so it really was only the picks.

They essentially did what Indiana did getting siakim a few seasons back. Signed bruce brown to a huge contract and the flipped him for a key piece the year after.

This is a great trade!!! I'm surprised weltman did before the draft.

If the magic stay healthy they are going to the ecf next season. Book it.
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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks) 

Post#49 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 3:38 pm

This trade actually has me at a lost of words and honestly made me realize after all these years that 99% of us, myself included have no idea what we’re talking about and have no real understanding of what the FO Is actually thinking.

This is the kind of trade I warned everyone about, screams desperation and looks like a panic trade to try to save your job.

I’m not going to say Bane isn’t a great player and that the world is falling, but this isn’t a good look at all.

This means one of two things, Suggs is being traded or the FO genuinely thinks Suggs is the PGOTF (lol).
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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks) 

Post#50 » by Knightro » Sun Jun 15, 2025 3:39 pm

Bane for his career is 10.2 3PT attempts per 100 at .410%.

If he loses his shooting stroke here... :lol:
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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks) 

Post#51 » by zuppafly » Sun Jun 15, 2025 3:40 pm

Knightro wrote:Bane for his career is 10.2 3PT attempts per 100 at .410%.

If he loses his shooting stroke here... :lol:

Oh, that's a given. Everyone forgets how to shoot here
I'm already thinking about an over/under .33 for him next year here lol
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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks) 

Post#52 » by Viper1500 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 3:40 pm

Hate that we lost the Phoenix pick. Would’ve been a homerun if that pick was this years #25.

But, this is probably one of the best fits we could have added. Bane is a very underrated playmaker.
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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks) 

Post#53 » by tiderulz » Sun Jun 15, 2025 3:40 pm

pepe1991 wrote:Bane averages 2,5 apg for career in playoffs. Sure, in this awkward, no pick&roll system for Grizzlies he piled up nice APG count, but that gimmick of him "playmaking" never worked in playoffs.

He isn't playmaker.


But that's not an issue. bigger issue is that we finally know that some of us were right all along about adding " good contracts that will be eventually good assets in trades" was complete and utter BULL.

In order to upgrade roster and get rid of "good value KCP" and "good value Cole" Magic ended up paying 4 unprotected picks + 16 pick.

it wasnt 4 unprotected picks. its the 16th this year, the PHX pick (which was the 2nd best pick in the swaps, so no chance at top-5) and then 2 unprotected picks for a team that will be in the playoffs. Stop with the hyperbolic rant.
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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks) 

Post#54 » by Knightro » Sun Jun 15, 2025 3:40 pm

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:This means one of two things, Suggs is being traded or the FO genuinely thinks Suggs is the PGOTF (lol).


This is the fascinating part to me.

Do they envision Suggs as the starting PG or is he on the block?
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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks) 

Post#55 » by ibraheim718 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 3:41 pm

essentially 20ppg, 5apg, and 6 boards shooting 40/50/90
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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks) 

Post#56 » by thelead » Sun Jun 15, 2025 3:41 pm

I’m conflicted. I LOVE Bane but we didn’t acquire a PG.
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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks) 

Post#57 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Sun Jun 15, 2025 3:41 pm

There’s got to be another move you’d imagine.
A scoring guard.. never heard of one. :roll:
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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks) 

Post#58 » by tiderulz » Sun Jun 15, 2025 3:42 pm

3ddman23 wrote:Holy cow!!!! I like it.

It's really just a bit of word salad.
When u break it down it's really not as bad as it looks picks wise.

This year pick isn't unprotected it was already at 16. ( Plus the magic still have have pick 25)
The phoenix pick wasn't even ares to begin with. It's exactly what the pick was acquired for to add to a trade. (Isn't this the picky hat has a bunch of stipulations with it anyways(.
The 29 pick swap is what it is. ( The magic still get a first round pick this year).

The only true unprotected picks they gave up was year 28 & 30...

That's not bad at all when u factor bane is a really big get for this organization. Still young, locked in long term, exactly what the magic needed.

The players involved were non factors(salary fillers), so it really was only the picks.

They essentially did what Indiana did getting siakim a few seasons back. Signed bruce brown to a huge contract and the flipped him for a key piece the year after.

This is a great trade!!! I'm surprised weltman did before the draft.

If the magic stay healthy they are going to the ecf next season. Book it.

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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks) 

Post#59 » by basketballRob » Sun Jun 15, 2025 3:43 pm

Wow

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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks) 

Post#60 » by The1llness » Sun Jun 15, 2025 3:43 pm

Wish the Magic didn’t give up the Phoenix pick as it’s trending towards being lottery pick next season.

But Weltman is desperate to keep his job and needed to correct his mistake with KCP…so here we are.

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