cougar13 wrote:Carlos I don't see the Magic resigning, the Heat are interested in Dooling and Dooling is interested in playing near his home. He mentioned this in an interview.
I agree that Arroyo is unlikely to be in the Magic's future. But if Dooling moves on, then Orlando may be force the resign Carlos. That's a big if as the Magic have a lot more to offer Keyon over Miami. For one, they will offer more salary; and money talks. And it's not like Orlando is far from Miami.
I didn't predict that they could find a good starting pg I left that with ???'s remember. I did say that Nelson is not a starting pg. I said add Duhon for not too much money and he is a good enough pg to backup a real good pg. Plus he is a free agent after this season.
Your feelings are typical of this board, and I am somehow in the minority with my opinion. That opinion: Nelson is not the biggest hole on the roster. By a variety of statistical measures, Jameer is about the 20th best PG in the NBA. That is a starter level of quality, and "good enough" if other slots are above average. As one example, Duhon over Nelson is not an major improvement (I would argue that it's actually no improvement at all; but that's a different discussion). And even if you argue that Duhon is, the flexibility costs with this are to large.
I am fine with Evans and Redick with either Hedo or Lewis bouncing back and forth in that slot.
Again we disagree. With Nelson distributing, Lewis bombing away, and Howard and the Bigs banging down low, the Magic roster unquestionably lacks a slasher on the wing. Neither Evans nor Redick fit that mold. (I have jumped on the Maggette bang wagon for this reason alone).
Potential name free agents that might consider a MLE are Ron Artest, Ricky Davis, Corey Maggette and Michael Finley. None of these guys might accept MLE, but at least there would be a discussion.
BTW as of late Hedo has been starting the sf slot, but some teams actually play two sf's just like the Magic do when they want more offense it depends on who they are playing.
But even this aids from a slasher at the wing, and not a third gunner.
Gortat is a work in progress not helping the team at present.
I agree, but next year he will get some limited minutes. Marcin effectively replaces Augustine and Garrity in the same swoop. Bench warmer and team mascot; those are his major court-minute jobs. Guys like Marcin exist for the practice squad. One must be realistic about this.
The Magic have Cook for a couple more years after this season, but the Magic need a big man who is good he doesn't have to be great and I also read that the free agent market could be soft since there so few teams under the cap.
If you argue for this, then a healthy Battie is your man.
The Magic will have Battie back next year, but they need someone who can move on the court with some speed and more offense he is a good banger when it comes to the boards.
The only way the Magic can find an active PF would be to trade for it. These guys as a starting salary make 10-12 million a year. Turkoglu must be part of such a package to lure such a player. Which is the central theme to my previous post.
Now I posted all of that in my last post, but you got to who I mentioned about starting and the quesiton marks and you stopped reading.
Next time read the entire post before you get your panties all tied up into a knot.
Whilst I realize that I am likely responding to a poster many years my junior, I still think it is important to reflect on basketball; not personal feelings. We clearly disagree with a path for the Magic. Stay focused on your basketball arguments and not on your feelings. In life, there is rarely a benefit from antagonizing others. Particularly when the focus is as trivial as a discussion about a game.
The Magic are not going to waste the MLE on the SG sport (sic?) that is not where the team needs help.
There are a bevy of SGs available on the open market next year and this is the place where the best deal can be found. The MLE will get a starting-quality SG next year. But it won't ........
THE MAGIC NEEDS A BIG MAN!!!
.... get a starting-quality PF. A starter at PF makes between 8-20 million. The MLE will at best get a Battie/Foyle type. And the Magic already have two of such guys. (and both are underpaid).
Lewis is not a pf, he is playing out of his normal slot when he plays pf.
I agree. Lewis should slide back to the SF slot. And the only path to do so is a package that will include Turkoglu with some of Battie/Redick/Vazquez/draft picks.
My central argument: an upgrade at SG with the MLE and an upgrade at PF with Hedo as trade bait takes the Magic to a Championship caliber. And this is next year.
Look at a very possible roster:
PG: Jameer Nelson, Keyon Dooling, Mario Chalmers (rookie)
SG: Ricky Davis (MLE), Keith Bogans
SF: Rashard Lewis, Casey Jacobsen (LLE)
PF: Zach Randolph (trade), Brian Cook, Marcin Gortat
C: Dwight Howard, Adonal Foyle, Fran Vazquez (rookie)
For this, Zach Randolph was aquired for Hedo Turkoglu, Tony Battie, and J.J. Redick ... Mario Chalmers would be the Magic's draft selection ... Ricky Davis signs to rejuvenate his career and potentially win a title ... Casey Jacobsen signs to stay in the league ... and Fran Vazquez finally comes stateside.
The above roster would win a lot of games.
