Official Speculation Thread (Pt XVII, Mods Close)

BadMofoPimp · Post #401 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:08 pm

bigpimpatl wrote:Hedo has never had a major injury. Rashard was also quite healthy. Even now when he is fine, he is nowhere close to the same player he was. Nelson (apart from a few games) has looked pretty bad. Look at the whole body of work, not just a few games.

There are no anomalies here; Stephen Jackson is old, doesn't have much left in the tank, is owed $10 mil next season (when he'll be 35). And, he SUCKS. Why you guys are infatuated with him (regardless of what Dwight says) is beyond me.

+1

Reverse_Angle · Post #402 » by **Reverse_Angle** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:09 pm

we just love other team's crap.

RickB-Orlando · Post #403 » by **RickB-Orlando** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:10 pm

Reverse_Angle wrote:
BelgianMagic wrote:
bigpimpatl wrote:dude. stephen jax is terrible. We aren't getting the '09 or even '10 SJax. It's 2012; he plays like crap. Can't even get PT on a team like the bucks, still fighting for a playoff spot. Obviously you put anyone next to Dwight and they look better. But he'd still suck.

And why ignore this year? Do you think he'll magically turn everything around and be that player you think he is? No, it's not going to happen. And yes, you do drop off for no reason. See: Jameer Nelson, Hedo, and Rashard.

Him not playing for the Bucks isn't about him being terrible, it's about him not wanting to be there ..

i am not sure how this is a good thing.

also only explains this season, not the 2 seasons before this one.

You mean the ones where he averaged 20 and 18 PPG...?

Nolimit1211 · Post #404 » by **Nolimit1211** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:11 pm

I DM'd S.Jax when I had a twitter account acouple weeks ago, he replied both times... I sent him a link to an article saying he's washed up headcase and replied back going off lol "they gon learn bout me"... "**** what they heard they gon see me WATCH".

KingRobb02 · Post #405 » by **KingRobb02** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:12 pm

bigpimpatl wrote:Hedo has never had a major injury. Rashard was also quite healthy. Even now when he is fine, he is nowhere close to the same player he was. Nelson (apart from a few games) has looked pretty bad. Look at the whole body of work, not just a few games.

There are no anomalies here; Stephen Jackson is old, doesn't have much left in the tank, is owed $10 mil next season (when he'll be 35). And, he SUCKS. Why you guys are infatuated with him (regardless of what Dwight says) is beyond me.

Don't worry. He will play hard once he gets to the Magic. Count on it. While we're going after the "We Believe" Warriors, How hard would it be to get Baron, Harrington, Pietrus, and Barnes in pinstripes?

MagicFan41 · Post #406 » by **MagicFan41** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:12 pm

bigpimpatl wrote:Hedo has never had a major injury. Rashard was also quite healthy. Even now when he is fine, he is nowhere close to the same player he was. Nelson (apart from a few games) has looked pretty bad. Look at the whole body of work, not just a few games.

There are no anomalies here; Stephen Jackson is old, doesn't have much left in the tank, is owed $10 mil next season (when he'll be 35). And, he SUCKS. Why you guys are infatuated with him (regardless of what Dwight says) is beyond me.

Nobody is "infatuated" with him....it's simply basically a Hedo-SJax swap, and I think a lot of people have no problem doing that if it helps keep Dwight. Hedo hasn't had a "major injury" but don't you think that back spasms, elbow issues, etc etc (all the little minor things he keeps dealing with) probably affect him a bit? Just look at the end of last year compared to the beginning of this year. He was way more productive at the beginning of this year when he was completely healthy than at the end of last year when he was dealing with minor issues. Rashard had KNEE SURGERY. What are you talking about, acting like he is perfectly healthy.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wiz ... _blog.html

magicman123 · Post #407 » by **magicman123** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:12 pm

Hey guys have we gotten Steve Francis yet?

rj2496 · Post #408 » by **rj2496** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:13 pm

I'm curious how you guys think you get the best player in the deal (Ellis) without giving up Anderson. He would more then likely be included. There is no other value besides him because everyone else is on a bad contract except JJ.

Nyce_1 · Post #409 » by **Nyce_1** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:13 pm

all we need is a little luck on our side.

MagicFan41 · Post #410 » by **MagicFan41** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:14 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:all we need is a little luck on our side.

Are we getting Andrew Luck???

KingRobb02 · Post #411 » by **KingRobb02** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:15 pm

RickB-Orlando wrote:
Reverse_Angle wrote:

also only explains this season, not the 2 seasons before this one.

You mean the ones where he averaged 20 and 18 PPG...?

On 40% shooting...

KingRobb02 · Post #412 » by **KingRobb02** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:15 pm

MagicFan41 wrote:
Nyce_1 wrote:all we need is a little luck on our side.

Are we getting Andrew Luck???

RGIII Please

Nyce_1 · Post #413 » by **Nyce_1** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:15 pm

rj2496 wrote:I'm curious how you guys think you get the best player in the deal (Ellis) without giving up Anderson. He would more then likely be included. There is no other value besides him because everyone else is on a bad contract except JJ.

I think everyone here understands, and expects, Redick & Anderson to be gone.

BadMofoPimp · Post #414 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:17 pm

magicman123 wrote:Hey guys have we gotten Steve Francis yet?

This is what I keep thinking. Is Ellis truly the answer. I only want him if Dwight at least Opts In, otherwise, no.

rj2496 · Post #415 » by **rj2496** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:17 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:
rj2496 wrote:I'm curious how you guys think you get the best player in the deal (Ellis) without giving up Anderson. He would more then likely be included. There is no other value besides him because everyone else is on a bad contract except JJ.

I think everyone here understands, and expects, Redick & Anderson to be gone.

Idk...going through this thread it doesn't really seem like it.

Reverse_Angle · Post #416 » by **Reverse_Angle** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:18 pm

KingRobb02 wrote:
RickB-Orlando wrote:
Reverse_Angle wrote:

also only explains this season, not the 2 seasons before this one.

You mean the ones where he averaged 20 and 18 PPG...?

On 40% shooting...

on bad teams where he got to whatever he wanted. but i primarily commented on his defense there. when was the last time he played defense?

forget about it. 98% of the people who root for sjax has not seen him play more than 10 whole games in the last 10 years.

Loneil · Post #417 » by **Loneil** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:19 pm

MagicFan41 wrote:
Nyce_1 wrote:all we need is a little luck on our side.

Are we getting Andrew Luck???

no, no, no, we need ron mercer.

BadMofoPimp · Post #418 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:20 pm

Reverse_Angle wrote:
on bad teams where he got to whatever he wanted. but i primarily commented on his defense there. when was the last time he played defense?

forget about it. 98% of the people who root for sjax has not seen him play more than 10 whole games in the last 10 years.

Overrated, Hedo >>> SJax at this stage of their careers. Heck, Maggette is playing better than SJax. Maybe, Charlotte knows something we don't.

magicman123 · Post #419 » by **magicman123** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:20 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:
magicman123 wrote:Hey guys have we gotten Steve Francis yet?

This is what I keep thinking. Is Ellis truly the answer. I only want him if Dwight at least Opts In, otherwise, no.

Yea I only want him if it helps keep Dwight longer

rj2496 · Post #420 » by **rj2496** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:20 pm

And I just want to say, this whole situation has become tired some. None of this needs to happen like this. So much false reporting an nobody knows what's going on. Everyone just wants to break a story first. I wish Dwight would just come out and give a definitive answer. I'm pretty sure it would put all this to rest. Anyway, if he doesn't end up on the Nets, I reall hope he stays with you guys. Good luck.