Game #5: Brooklyn Nets(1-2) @ Orlando Magic(2-2)

KillMonger · Post #401 » by **KillMonger** » Sat Nov 10, 2012 2:36 am

Harkless can be sort of a Nicolas Batum type with the long arms and defense. If he can develop his offense to a respectable level he can be a contributor but it's going to take a ton of work. Not too worried about his demeanor he might be one of those Tracy Mcgrady types who's sleepy on-court demeanor often had people question his motor at times but he had the game to back it up. Will Harkless? only time will tell

Rick Rolled · Post #402 » by **Rick Rolled** » Sat Nov 10, 2012 2:37 am

thelead wrote:
Rick Rolled wrote:
thelead wrote:
I would imagine that they would IF they pan out. I, for one, don't think they will.

Harkless has miles to go offensively, and Nicholson has miles to go defensively.

If they put the work in and commit themselves, I'd hope they can reach their full potential.

Players with Harkless' skill set tend to be busts/very average players quite often.... I'd just hope that he can be an outlier with a solid development plan from our staff. He has time on his side.

I agree on Harkless. Earl Clark was very similar and was drafted even higher. We said the same things about Clark that we say about Harkless.

Exactly.

Luckily, we are in a position to make player development a huge sticking point.

Guys like Clark and Julian Wright were drafted onto very solid teams, and it's possible that their development suffered because of it.

It won't happen overnight, but i'd imagine that our staff will be very patient with our rooks.

arsenal6106 · Post #403 » by **arsenal6106** » Sat Nov 10, 2012 2:37 am

OrlandO wrote:
arsenal6106 wrote:We'll be competitive in games where BBD and JJ Redick have their "A" games. I really think it's that simple.

What happened to the JJ and Big Baby pick n roll? Seems like Davis' only scoring opportunities have been 1on1 lately.

Yup.

I gave them a pass last game b/c of the b2b, but where was the energy from our players tonight?

Optimus_Steel · Post #404 » by **Optimus_Steel** » Sat Nov 10, 2012 2:40 am

Wow I know we wanna tank but not like this. Nothing.....nothing good happend tonight. Even the rookies looked useless.

KillMonger · Post #405 » by **KillMonger** » Sat Nov 10, 2012 2:40 am

Can someone tell me why Josh McRoberts is starting?

DarkXaero · Post #406 » by **DarkXaero** » Sat Nov 10, 2012 2:40 am

For all of you shocked at Brook Lopez's rebounding, he has improved a lot this season in that area. Also, for those of you trying to downplay his performance, he has played well many times against the top centers in the league not named Dwight. Let the hatred go.

backasswards · Post #407 » by **backasswards** » Sat Nov 10, 2012 2:43 am

thelead wrote:
Rick Rolled wrote:
thelead wrote:
I would imagine that they would IF they pan out. I, for one, don't think they will.

Harkless has miles to go offensively, and Nicholson has miles to go defensively.

If they put the work in and commit themselves, I'd hope they can reach their full potential.

Players with Harkless' skill set tend to be busts/very average players quite often.... I'd just hope that he can be an outlier with a solid development plan from our staff. He has time on his side.

I agree on Harkless. Earl Clark was very similar and was drafted even higher. We said the same things about Clark that we say about Harkless.

The Earl Clarke comparison to Harkless is scary good.

I know he's just 19 but he doesn't play like he wants to make a name for himself. I'd be happier if he attempted things and failed rather than stand to the side and do nothing.

I just don't see any energy or passion from him. I hope he proves me wrong though because we need him to be something for this franchise.

InFlames · Post #408 » by **InFlames** » Sat Nov 10, 2012 2:43 am

DarkXaero wrote:For all of you shocked at Brook Lopez's rebounding, he has improved a lot this season in that area. Also, for those of you trying to downplay his performance, he has played well many times against the top centers in the league not named Dwight. Let the hatred go.

lol

Rick Rolled · Post #409 » by **Rick Rolled** » Sat Nov 10, 2012 2:43 am

DarkXaero wrote:For all of you shocked at Brook Lopez's rebounding, he has improved a lot this season in that area. Also, for those of you trying to downplay his performance, he has played well many times against the top centers in the league not named Dwight. Let the hatred go.

That conversation ended 4 pages ago.

Brook is awesome. Very solid. Majestic. Sexy. Mystifying. Gorgeous.

He's a Haiku, whispered softly in your ear by an elegant Asian beauty on the peak of Mt. Fuji.

magicman123 · Post #410 » by **magicman123** » Sat Nov 10, 2012 2:43 am

DarkXaero wrote:For all of you shocked at Brook Lopez's rebounding, he has improved a lot this season in that area. Also, for those of you trying to downplay his performance, he has played well many times against the top centers in the league not named Dwight. Let the hatred go.

hes averaging 6.7reb, Vucevic is averaging 7.8, woot woot

backasswards · Post #411 » by **backasswards** » Sat Nov 10, 2012 2:44 am

DarkXaero wrote:For all of you shocked at Brook Lopez's rebounding, he has improved a lot this season in that area. Also, for those of you trying to downplay his performance, he has played well many times against the top centers in the league not named Dwight. Let the hatred go.

Nobody cares about Lopez. Stop trying to convince us that he's great and we missed out on something big. Nobody cares.

InFlames · Post #412 » by **InFlames** » Sat Nov 10, 2012 2:46 am

magicman123 wrote:
DarkXaero wrote:For all of you shocked at Brook Lopez's rebounding, he has improved a lot this season in that area. Also, for those of you trying to downplay his performance, he has played well many times against the top centers in the league not named Dwight. Let the hatred go.

hes averaging 6.7reb, Vucevic is averaging 7.8, woot woot

Well, he is right 6.7 is a huge improvement from 3.6 lmfao

KillMonger · Post #413 » by **KillMonger** » Sat Nov 10, 2012 2:46 am

We need to play Nicholson more while he does get lost at times he can have a burst of points in short succession and we NEED points right now. Big Baby is still forcing things and honestly i rather have him shoot mid-range jumpers instead of bowling head first right into a blocked shot

jezzer45 · Post #414 » by **jezzer45** » Sat Nov 10, 2012 2:46 am

this team is predicated on jumpers. wheen they fall the game is competitve when they dont its a blowout. we just dont have anyone (healthy) that can create shots by driving or down in the post

magicman123 · Post #415 » by **magicman123** » Sat Nov 10, 2012 2:47 am

InFlames wrote:
magicman123 wrote:
DarkXaero wrote:For all of you shocked at Brook Lopez's rebounding, he has improved a lot this season in that area. Also, for those of you trying to downplay his performance, he has played well many times against the top centers in the league not named Dwight. Let the hatred go.

hes averaging 6.7reb, Vucevic is averaging 7.8, woot woot

Well, he is right 6.7 is a huge improvement from 3.6 lmfao

DarkXaero · Post #416 » by **DarkXaero** » Sat Nov 10, 2012 2:49 am

magicman123 wrote:
DarkXaero wrote:For all of you shocked at Brook Lopez's rebounding, he has improved a lot this season in that area. Also, for those of you trying to downplay his performance, he has played well many times against the top centers in the league not named Dwight. Let the hatred go.

hes averaging 6.7reb, Vucevic is averaging 7.8, woot woot

In 28 MPG with a defensive rebounding rate of more than 25%

thelead · Post #417 » by **thelead** » Sat Nov 10, 2012 2:50 am

DarkXaero wrote:
magicman123 wrote:
DarkXaero wrote:For all of you shocked at Brook Lopez's rebounding, he has improved a lot this season in that area. Also, for those of you trying to downplay his performance, he has played well many times against the top centers in the league not named Dwight. Let the hatred go.

hes averaging 6.7reb, Vucevic is averaging 7.8, woot woot
In 28 MPG with a defensive rebounding rate of more than 25%

He's not a good rebounder

DarkXaero · Post #418 » by **DarkXaero** » Sat Nov 10, 2012 2:50 am

backasswards wrote:
DarkXaero wrote:For all of you shocked at Brook Lopez's rebounding, he has improved a lot this season in that area. Also, for those of you trying to downplay his performance, he has played well many times against the top centers in the league not named Dwight. Let the hatred go.

Nobody cares about Lopez. Stop trying to convince us that he's great and we missed out on something big. Nobody cares.

Nah, it's just too amusing for me to read all the bitterness and hatred towards Lopez from Magic fans here, as if he screwed their franchise :lol:

Even on the Nets board, you won't see that much hatred against Dwight and he actually screwed us :lol:

magicman123 · Post #419 » by **magicman123** » Sat Nov 10, 2012 2:51 am

DarkXaero wrote:
magicman123 wrote:
DarkXaero wrote:For all of you shocked at Brook Lopez's rebounding, he has improved a lot this season in that area. Also, for those of you trying to downplay his performance, he has played well many times against the top centers in the league not named Dwight. Let the hatred go.

hes averaging 6.7reb, Vucevic is averaging 7.8, woot woot
In 28 MPG with a defensive rebounding rate of more than 25%

Vuc is doing it in 28 MPG, making $60mil less

KillMonger · Post #420 » by **KillMonger** » Sat Nov 10, 2012 2:51 am

Jameer's penetration is sorely missed. Never knew what we had until we lost it to injury lol. Am i the only one that thinks O'Quinn should get the backup center minutes? sure Gustavo can pass and all but he brings absolutely nothing else. O'Quinn looks like a fighter to me and that might be what we need after we got bullied tonight