Olympics - OQT

[tiderulz]

Germany's Dennis Schroder Names Magic Rookie as Key Piece of Country's Basketball Future

why didnt Da Silva and IHart play for Germany this year?

[eyriq]

Germany's Dennis Schroder Names Magic Rookie as Key Piece of Country's Basketball Future

why didnt Da Silva and IHart play for Germany this year?

I think Tristan was focused on transitioning to the NBA. For IHart, it seems like he just wasn't selected.

[KillMonger]

Germany's Dennis Schroder Names Magic Rookie as Key Piece of Country's Basketball Future

why didnt Da Silva and IHart play for Germany this year?

apparently the German coach required a 3 year buy in....some wasn't with that

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[eyriq]

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Crazy he was left off the first team. He had a great Olympics, did everything.

[Last Guardian]

There is good chance you have better physicque than best basketball player in the world

I'd take his 6'11 physique over my 5'10 any day.

[eyriq]

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[tiderulz]

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he'll just need to make sure he wears the right shoes. otherwise they will leave him off

[RookieStar]

The way team celebrates this bronze tells me this Olympics might have been a swan song for this generation and Serbia might be looking to start rebuilding starting from next year's Eurobasket.

There is no rebuild as long as Jokic is still willing to play. More like reload.

This guy Petrusiv-something.. I was pretty high on him during draft. He was one of the Garza, Huff trio that I wanted for our SRP. 7ft shooting C lol

in an interview from last year, after winning silver medal at WC, Bogdan called this Olympics as Last Dance for this generation.

Eh... same vibes as Lebron calling this Olympic squad as the " Avengers" just clickbait. Their lineup will have early 30s as their average plus Im hopeful of the hype of Topic to be true.. Im sure majority of them will still play.

[RookieStar]

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he'll just need to make sure he wears the right shoes. otherwise they will leave him off

Good thing his shoes is owned by the mafi.. I mean major sponsor of Team USA

With that said, Im glad Paolo didn't play with this squad. There might be drama like what happened with Tatum.

[RookieStar]

Germany's Dennis Schroder Names Magic Rookie as Key Piece of Country's Basketball Future

why didnt Da Silva and IHart play for Germany this year?

Apparently, all the members had to commit themselves 3-4 years ago. Since 3 years ago TDS was still in school and uncertain of his skill, he probably concentrated on himself and college. IHart.. yeah.. his wife is giving birth at the same time as the Olympics and he also did not commit 3-4 years ago so he never thought of joining this time around

[pepe1991]

There is no rebuild as long as Jokic is still willing to play. More like reload.

This guy Petrusiv-something.. I was pretty high on him during draft. He was one of the Garza, Huff trio that I wanted for our SRP. 7ft shooting C lol

in an interview from last year, after winning silver medal at WC, Bogdan called this Olympics as Last Dance for this generation.

Eh... same vibes as Lebron calling this Olympic squad as the " Avengers" just clickbait. Their lineup will have early 30s as their average plus Im hopeful of the hype of Topic to be true.. Im sure majority of them will still play.

If we talk about Eurobasket, sure, they can run back same roster, but for next Olympics?

age of Serbian starting 5:
29 ( Jokic)
30
32 ( Bogdan)
30
24

now add to this rest of their best players: Micić (30), Milutinov (30), Gudurić (29).

There is no retooling for Olympics. Thats 7 key players being in mid 30s with best guard being 36 ( if he even continues to play at that point ). Not to mention injuries & milage that somebody like Jokic will have by that point, at age of 33-34.
Sure Tepic CAN be good, but you are forgetting that Micić was Euroleague's MVP, that Bogdan was 2 times Euroleague's raising star winner, Euroleague winner, Euroleague all decade starting 5 memer etc. ( Milutinov being VTB league's MVP last year as well ).
Country as small as Serbia can't just fabricate 5 new elite players in 4 years.

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With that said, Im glad Paolo didn't play with this squad. There might be drama like what happened with Tatum.

If by drama, you mean a guy didn't play much because his shot went completely broken while playing behind 2 all-time great players, then sure.

The only drama was caused by his mom acting like a little league parent and Boston fans acting like themselves.

[p0peye]

in an interview from last year, after winning silver medal at WC, Bogdan called this Olympics as Last Dance for this generation.

Eh... same vibes as Lebron calling this Olympic squad as the " Avengers" just clickbait. Their lineup will have early 30s as their average plus Im hopeful of the hype of Topic to be true.. Im sure majority of them will still play.

If we talk about Eurobasket, sure, they can run back same roster, but for next Olympics?

age of Serbian starting 5:
29 ( Jokic)
30
32 ( Bogdan)
30
24

now add to this rest of their best players: Micić (30), Milutinov (30), Gudurić (29).

There is no retooling for Olympics. Thats 7 key players being in mid 30s with best guard being 36 ( if he even continues to play at that point ). Not to mention injuries & milage that somebody like Jokic will have by that point, at age of 33-34.
Sure Tepic CAN be good, but you are forgetting that Micić was Euroleague's MVP, that Bogdan was 2 times Euroleague's raising star winner, Euroleague winner, Euroleague all decade starting 5 memer etc. ( Milutinov being VTB league's MVP last year as well ).
Country as small as Serbia can't just fabricate 5 new elite players in 4 years.

True, but not all hope is lost, I am confident that with proper system we can get a decent team capable of being competitive by 2028. If we are to do that, we have to sacrifice next Eurobasket as the focus should be on developing players and team synergy instead of results - meaning, there can't be more than a couple vets and focus should be on players that are 25 or younger now.

Ex-yu countries still fabricate good young talents, but club competitions for senior teams are not developing them for being way too invested into immediate results bringing foreign players into mix. This is something that Kari is preaching and probably has to be addressed.

Big issue is also selecting next head coach as Kari is way too old to take on another 4 years and Djordjević has been used. There might be someone out there, but I am not a big believer in "ego managers" and would like an old school coach to lead the youngsters.

[Knightro]

It is my understanding that the folks who run Team USA made some very specific promises in regards to future roles with the program to Paolo to keep him from playing for Italy.

Take that for whatever it's worth.

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he'll just need to make sure he wears the right shoes. otherwise they will leave him off

I don’t think any of us would care that he wouldn’t play much, we would have loved for him to get the experience of being around guys like KD, Bron, and Steph for the summer. He could learn and gleam from their game outside of YouTube highlights. It’s not his time, I don’t think any of us would have seriously mind because I think he would have been a great teammate and cheer on his team like Hali did. And to be honest, it would also have been great, even if it was only for a few minutes, to see Hali and Paolo play together. They have great chemistry that was noticed in the World Cup.

[RookieStar]

in an interview from last year, after winning silver medal at WC, Bogdan called this Olympics as Last Dance for this generation.

Eh... same vibes as Lebron calling this Olympic squad as the " Avengers" just clickbait. Their lineup will have early 30s as their average plus Im hopeful of the hype of Topic to be true.. Im sure majority of them will still play.

If we talk about Eurobasket, sure, they can run back same roster, but for next Olympics?

age of Serbian starting 5:
29 ( Jokic)
30
32 ( Bogdan)
30
24

now add to this rest of their best players: Micić (30), Milutinov (30), Gudurić (29).

There is no retooling for Olympics. Thats 7 key players being in mid 30s with best guard being 36 ( if he even continues to play at that point ). Not to mention injuries & milage that somebody like Jokic will have by that point, at age of 33-34.
Sure Tepic CAN be good, but you are forgetting that Micić was Euroleague's MVP, that Bogdan was 2 times Euroleague's raising star winner, Euroleague winner, Euroleague all decade starting 5 memer etc. ( Milutinov being VTB league's MVP last year as well ).
Country as small as Serbia can't just fabricate 5 new elite players in 4 years.

So in 4 yrs everyone except Bogdan will be in their early 30s still? Unless some of them have grave injuries, thye will still be prime for the 2 week tournament. This isn't the NBA where there is an 82 game season plus POs. I think Jokic at 33 will still be in his prime albeit going down.

As you saidm we will see. I always differentiate FIBA with the NBA, older guys seem to thrive well there compared to the league. IT really all depends on their willingness to still play. Not everyone has that kobe/LBJ attitude. Some are like Bynum/Sanders ( there is nothing wrong with it ) basketball is really a sport/career, your life is more important.

[RookieStar]

It is my understanding that the folks who run Team USA made some very specific promises in regards to future roles with the program to Paolo to keep him from playing for Italy.

Take that for whatever it's worth.

Yeah... politics. Hope they keep their promises.

[RookieStar]

With that said, Im glad Paolo didn't play with this squad. There might be drama like what happened with Tatum.

If by drama, you mean a guy didn't play much because his shot went completely broken while playing behind 2 all-time great players, then sure.

The only drama was caused by his mom acting like a little league parent and Boston fans acting like themselves.

We;; hopefully that is all that is. I mean compared to Hali's attitude , people are saying JT is sulking, liking/repeating tweets that somehow complains his lack if PT. lol yeah I know, Socmed is weird

[pepe1991]

Eh... same vibes as Lebron calling this Olympic squad as the " Avengers" just clickbait. Their lineup will have early 30s as their average plus Im hopeful of the hype of Topic to be true.. Im sure majority of them will still play.

If we talk about Eurobasket, sure, they can run back same roster, but for next Olympics?

age of Serbian starting 5:
29 ( Jokic)
30
32 ( Bogdan)
30
24

now add to this rest of their best players: Micić (30), Milutinov (30), Gudurić (29).

There is no retooling for Olympics. Thats 7 key players being in mid 30s with best guard being 36 ( if he even continues to play at that point ). Not to mention injuries & milage that somebody like Jokic will have by that point, at age of 33-34.
Sure Tepic CAN be good, but you are forgetting that Micić was Euroleague's MVP, that Bogdan was 2 times Euroleague's raising star winner, Euroleague winner, Euroleague all decade starting 5 memer etc. ( Milutinov being VTB league's MVP last year as well ).
Country as small as Serbia can't just fabricate 5 new elite players in 4 years.

So in 4 yrs everyone except Bogdan will be in their early 30s still? Unless some of them have grave injuries, thye will still be prime for the 2 week tournament. This isn't the NBA where there is an 82 game season plus POs. I think Jokic at 33 will still be in his prime albeit going down.

As you saidm we will see. I always differentiate FIBA with the NBA, older guys seem to thrive well there compared to the league. IT really all depends on their willingness to still play. Not everyone has that kobe/LBJ attitude. Some are like Bynum/Sanders ( there is nothing wrong with it ) basketball is really a sport/career, your life is more important.

34 isn't relly early 30s. It's mostly considered retirment age for basketball players. ( nba retirment age is 28, average nba playing age is 26, median retirment in nba is 34 ,but mostly due guys like Gipson, Lebron, Haslem Thad Young & others who survive past age of 39 ,despite fact nobody but Horford & Lebron actually contribute in any meaningful way, rather just exist at the end of bench, most of the nights not even dressed up ).

To understand how this is outliner, 25th oldest nba player is yet to turn 35 ( that's Jrue Holiday )

Again, problem is perception of longjevity that is set by few nba star outliners and fact Durant, Lebron, Curry are this old,yet this good.

But to understand how shallow is career in basketball, especially in nba you need to consider few facts:
Paul George is only remaining active nba player from 2010 draft class in nba. Almost all others aren't just retired from nba, they retired from basketball .
But that's not all, this was retirment age from some first round picks from that class:
Sanders - 28
Babbitt-29
Turner - 30 ( 2# pick)
Aminu -30 (8th pick)
Aldrich- 29
Xavier Henry- 26
Seraphin -29
Elliot Williams -28
Trevor Booker -29
Demion Jones -30
Vasquez- 28

And apsolute worst case- Lanry Fields- retired at age of 24 due nerve demage. ( official retirment age was 26, but he pretty much never played pass age 24 anywhere ).

That's 12 out of 30 players who didn't last to their 30th birthday. There are still few active players but playing basketball in Bahrain or second division in Japan/China can hardly be considered "career".

I would like to see good Serbian team at OG 2028, i just don't think they will be this good any time soon. Maybe Partizan can save Pokuševski and turn him into decent player, who knows, but this 2024 Serbian team had 2 Euroleague's MVPs in their prime, best player in basketball in his prime ,underrated center in his prime etc. This was their peak.